Whats wrong with this?

[StealthyScrog]

Just cant get clones to root


it seems no matter what i try i get a next to 0% success rate


ive tried countless peat pucks, countless bubble cloner ideas, countless jars under flouros attempts, and so far im looking at 2 roots out of 30 on one strain and 2 roots out of 50 on the other, am i cursed? I take a 45 degree cut on a 4 node branch (still soft not woody) i put it under water and cut another node off and used root stimulator , take root by schultz, and popped her into the peat puck, 3 or so weeks it ends up dieing from being around to long and doing nothing, i check, no roots, but i did get one clone of the first strain, so i try a bubble cloners, lightproof rez's, constant bubbling, all stems slightly underwater, and yay 2 clones of the second strain im feeling good i think i finally figured it out, and none of the others would root, so i get tired of cloning and i throw a clone outside under my deck with filtered sunlight, and dont even care about it, no water, just rain whenever it happened, and it rooted, i felt wonderous, until i ended up killing it a week ago when i actually felt i wanted to vegetate and flower it with one of the other clones of the other strain, ( btw the first clone of the first strain was made into a mother, and same with 1 of the 2 clones of the second strain) so i try a couple clones prepared the same way as the peat puck ones except into flouros in a styrofoam holder to keep at water without light at all times, nothing in 7 days + not even nubs but atleast its still alive, what am i doing wrong?

 

[Hazy Lady]

I just wonder with so many methods and little success if there is not a common problem? is it your rooting hormone?, i don't know, is this stuff any good? how old is yours? Do you use a cover while they take root?.

 

[shawkmon]

ive rooted cuts in a jar of water in a window sill, try that

 

[Tranc3R]

High humidity is a big factor in getting clones to root.

Did you have them in a seedling box and exchange the air daily + spraying water?

I can usually get most to root in 5 - 10 days in a bubble cloner with a high humidity environment.

 

[Johnny Rotten]

Meticulously clean tools, healthy not over fed moms, cut underwater, rooting gel or kelp soak w/honey to seal the cut, into strait coco, mist the cuts with 1/4 strength nutes....some good tips to get you going on the right path.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

water, glass, roots. Best rate I have had, tried everything else as well. Won't ever do it any other way. It takes a while, but not as long as fucking up a bunch of cuts, waiting for them to slowly die and never root, know what I mean.

 

[StealthyScrog]

I just wonder with so many methods and little success if there is not a common problem? is it your rooting hormone?, i don't know, is this stuff any good? how old is yours? Do you use a cover while they take root?.

i thought about that and tried it with, and without the stuff, and tried a different brand, i know the first brand works extremely well for dr bud greengenes, but i thought id try diff and without, pretty new, cover?

ive rooted cuts in a jar of water in a window sill, try that

tryin it as of now

High humidity is a big factor in getting clones to root.

Did you have them in a seedling box and exchange the air daily + spraying water?

I can usually get most to root in 5 - 10 days in a bubble cloner with a high humidity environment.

high humidity with the peat pucks yes, exchanged daily sometimes twice, and probably 70 or 80% with the bubble cloner

Meticulously clean tools, healthy not over fed moms, cut underwater, rooting gel or kelp soak w/honey to seal the cut, into strait coco, mist the cuts with 1/4 strength nutes....some good tips to get you going on the right path.

this is one of the last methods ive got left to try, but i cant find coco locally and im not so big on having it sent, but other then that ive done all you said, powder not gel

water, glass, roots. Best rate I have had, tried everything else as well. Won't ever do it any other way. It takes a while, but not as long as fucking up a bunch of cuts, waiting for them to slowly die and never root, know what I mean.

yep know it well..

 

[Hazy Lady]

Cover? a hood, a dome for above your cuts to raise humidity.

 

[StealthyScrog]

yes i have, heres another question i think begs an answer, are daisy 8 site cloners any good? 70 bucks for gaurenteed clonage sounds great, dont need more then that at any one time since i run perp

 

[nepalnt21]

willow tea

 

[FreezerBoy]

I can't believe no one has mentioned heat. Keep water at 75º-80º.

My biggest success jump in rooting was a one minute soak in Hormex (IBA and NAA rooting hormones)

High RH is lethal to MJ. Dome weaning was costing me as much as 60% of my rooted clones. Since trashing the dome, I haven't lost a single cut. 15% RH is sufficient if your cuts are short and well trimmed.

 

[relief]

What temps are the clones at?

I sanitize my cutting equipment (alcohol). I make a cut, dip in powered rooting hormone, then put straight into rapid rooters, spay the leaves and rapid rooter with very weak nutrient solution. Trick is with rapid rooters is, do not wet them again after the initial spraying or the cuttings will have more chance of stem rot. Then place in humi dome, then spray the underside of the humidome lid to keep humidity up. I spray the leaves and humidome for 5 days, once in the morning and once at night. Avoid spraying the rooters.

Then I spray just the leaves after day 5 and watch them real close. If they stay perked up I know the roots will be shooting out soon as long as I dont over saturate the rapid rooters. If they sag, I start spraying the humi dome lid for another two day then repeat.

I have a 98 percent success rate doing it like this. Oh yeah, my temp never gets lower than 75 or higher than 80 (for rapid rooter). All my cuttings usually start poking roots out within 7 days (14 at the very longest).

I had the same problems you had, then I just followed the steps above and now if I take 100 cuttings, I can expect 98 of them to make it.

Speaking of clones, I took these last Wednesday, and transfered them to soil last night. So 7 days from cut to pot.

 

[montehierba]

natural rootin'

natural rootin'

Heat and humidity always allowed me to just cut and plug, with a good week wait for the indicas and some hybrids up to two weeks sativas are relatively fast for rooting.no additives needed
You want moist in the air at 80% with 75 plus temp. a five gallon bucket with plastic cover and couple holes so air can flo as well

 

[stihgnobevoli]

i have 100% success with cloning heres my method. i cut the clone, then i stick it in a rockwool cube and put it in a humidity dome. the cubes are moist not wet. thats it. i stick em under a cfl and i have roots in a week. the important part is keeping the cubes moist and not wet. yours are prolly too wet. i also let them get some fresh air every couple days by removing the lid for a few minutes.

 

[cannabisoptimus]

I have 100% success with the following method.

1.Cut the clone with a sterilized razor blade at a 45 degree angle under water. Then clip 1/4 of all the tips of the fan leaves on the clone.

2.Then dip the tip of the clone in a small disposable container containing a little amount of cloning gel(Olivia's or Clonex).

3. Then place the clone into a Rapid Rooter/Rockwool Cube that has been soaked for 12-24 hours in ph neutral water and then squeezed until only minimal water remains.

4. Place the whole clone/cube or rooter into a tray with a 1/4" of water on the bottom.

5. Keep RH between 65-90% and the temperature between 75-82 degrees F.

6. Wait for 7-20 days. Air out the hooded tray 2x per day for 20 minutes a pop.

7. If you keep the roots 2-8 degrees warmer then the ambient temperature inside the tray, they will grow more quickly.

-CannaOptimus

-=All information or data posted by CannabisOptimus are of an entertainment nature and are to be taken as such.=-

 

[magiccannabus]

I do the sloppiest, dirtiest cloning and get a 100% success rate. I used to use a bubble cloner. I even wrote a FAQ about it on OG, but now I use coco coir pucks, or peat pucks(the coir ones work better, but peat pucks are good too).

I take a cut off the plant, with whatever tool I have handy, maybe my fingernail. It doesn't have to be neat. I then scrape the stem A LITTLE, not enough to peel off the bark, just an abrasion of the bark.

I have pucks ready at that point. I take scissors and make the end a neat 45 degree cut if I have some handy, or I just forget about it. Then I smear a little bit of honey on the parts of the stem that will be buried. Then it gets stuck into the puck.

I have a pop top food storage container that has a clear bottom on it, and a nice solid flat lid. I put the pucks on the lid and place the bottom of the container over them like a dome. I then place this on the floor right outside my veg chamber. Works every time.

A couple of notes though. I find organic cloning actually works much better than other methods. I have treated pucks with a small amount of aerated compost tea, and the rooting and recovery were much better than normal. It is very very important in organic gardening to remove the chlorine from your water. Do a search on the forums about it if you don't know how. Also some places use chloramine which is even harder to remove.

I also don't trim the leaves. If one won't fit in the container properly, I may trim it off, but otherwise I leave them alone. The plant will want those when it starts growing again. It really does not take much light! You don't want to close the dome down on the lid airtight, that will suffocate them. You just want to leave it loose on there, and crack it every 2-3 days. If you forget to open it for air it just seems to make it root slower, but it still roots. This method should generally take from 10-15 days. There's lots of ways to vary this method, but this method is really really simple, and produces plants that can be stuck straight into soil as is. I love cloning with pucks. I may start making my own though using some coir and some little clear cups(so I can see the roots when they're ready).

 

[GMax]

yes i have, heres another question i think begs an answer, are daisy 8 site cloners any good? 70 bucks for gaurenteed clonage sounds great, dont need more then that at any one time since i run perp

daisy cloner ok but you could build ya two DIY aero cloners for that price that will work just as well and hold more clones. i had about 80-90% success rate with pucks, now that i have gone aero i got 100% every time in half the time. Make sure to take the cuttings underwater or dip them in water imeadiately after taking them, if not you will get a air bubble in the stem and it will be fucked from the start, thats the only thing i can think of, cause i have down some halfassed unsantitary clone jobs and still came out with at least 50% success, unless it just the strain