Bagseed Question

[resin_lung]

IE2KS- I agree that it would be difficult to determine by smoking it. But when dealing with bagseed Thats all there is to go by. You would still be able to tell if its leaning toward sativa or indica and at least an idea.

Jellyfish- I could be wrong but I just looked over my seed collection which is in the thousands and I don't think that size,color,or shape could be used as a gauge. I don't think it's consistent enough. Not that I can tell.

 

[Mr. Greengenes]

Indica seeds are usually large round solid color grey to brown sometimes with flat spots or a second 'ridge'. 'Sativa' seeds are usually smaller, often shiney oval shape with stripes or dark color. I wouldn't go by that though, just pick which ones appeal to you. I'm betting you'll be glad you did.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

IE2KS- I agree that it would be difficult to determine by smoking it. But when dealing with bagseed Thats all there is to go by. You would still be able to tell if its leaning toward sativa or indica and at least an idea.

Jellyfish- I could be wrong but I just looked over my seed collection which is in the thousands and I don't think that size,color,or shape could be used as a gauge. I don't think it's consistent enough. Not that I can tell.

Yeah I guess that is true, and if that is what you are gonna use then guess you really have nothing to lose anyway. That is a good point though, to at least get an educated guess for space issues and shit depending.
I would think that most all commercial mex brick bag seed would be sativa dom no?
Would be fun to get a surprise, my luck it would be "surprise, really well grown shitty weed!" Hell I get that from seedbank stuff, just picky, but if you liked the bud then that's good, least you know you will only improve it and it will be at least that good or better.

 

[Mr. Greengenes]

I've paid good money for seeds and been less than impressed quite a few times going back about twenty five years now. It's been getting a bit better in the last ten, but not much. Looking back, the best seeds that came through my hands were invariably gifts and trades from other skilled growers and breeders. Bagseed has also produced more than a few useful surprises, more than the seeds of the 'pros'.

One simple point is that bagseed is more likely to be a cross of brother and sister, and will yield reasonably open pollinated progeny, whereas seed made by 'pros' is often the result of multiple bottlenecking backcrosses to 'fix traits'. You end up getting very little in the way of variation to select from.

 

[blizz]

i like the roll of the dice bagseeds prvide i throw one into every grow just in case theres a gem hiding in there .as stated before try an keep notes on wut it comes out of very sound advice

 

[lordbudly]

Indica seeds are usually large round solid color grey to brown sometimes with flat spots or a second 'ridge'. 'Sativa' seeds are usually smaller, often shiney oval shape with stripes or dark color. I wouldn't go by that though, just pick which ones appeal to you. I'm betting you'll be glad you did.

 

[Jellyfish]

Indica seeds are usually large round solid color grey to brown sometimes with flat spots or a second 'ridge'. 'Sativa' seeds are usually smaller, often shiney oval shape with stripes or dark color.

Okay, thank you, that's some solid information. Thank you. Anybody concur or disagree with Mr. Greengenes?

I wouldn't go by that though, just pick which ones appeal to you. I'm betting you'll be glad you did.

I know what you mean, but it would still be nice to know if it's sativa or indica, or anything else by looking at them. Just tapping into the collective knowledge of this site. Maybe somebody might come out of lurk mode and show a way to sex seeds by looking at them. Wouldn't that be something?
cheers

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

I always find the dark tiger stripped ones sprout the best.

 

[Jellyfish]

I always find the dark tiger stripped ones sprout the best.

That's helpful. Thanks. I've seen the stripey ones.

 

[motaco]

This is a FAQ in my "RUST grow guide". But I don't blame you. Just looking for it to copy and paste was not easy. I added a lil to it for this conversation.

"Next thing is that you need to choose the seeds out of specific buds that got you high. Don't just take them out of the bottom of the bag. Those seeds could've been from runts, lower potency buds, etc. All the bud from hundreds of plants gets bricked up together. You never know where one plant ends and another begins. So pick seeds out of buds you chose for quality. (larger or more resinous buds, choose seeds out of the prettiest buds of the bag and pick them out, don't just toss them back in the bag, set them aside). In this method you at least get some control over what the mother looked liked. You at least know the mom produced big resinous buds and hopefully of the several males that pollenated that bud at least one will be a good male. That is what you are hoping, to get as much control over the quality of bagseed as possible.

"Now that you have well chosen seeds you need LOTS of them. luckily schwag is full of it and with a friend or two or a dealers help you can easily end up with a few hundred. It is more important with brickweed to choose from a large selection to take your mom from, because of the inherent instability of bagseed. Ten seeds of brickweed don't mean shit. They weren't worked by shantibaba you need a lot of them to find the true superior quality specimen. Grow them and cull them for any and every reason. Keep only those of superior growth (both rate of growth and pheno expression) and smell. With any luck you will have turned brick into something unique that will straighten your dick."

Size color shape, etc of seeds usually doesn't mean anything these days about genetics, only perhaps how early the weed was taken if all the seeds are immature. Years ago and to some extent that is still true. But most everything are hybrids these days. I've never been able to tell much by seeds.

 

[Jellyfish]

Thanks. Where do I find your RUST grow guide, and why would I want to grow rust? I'm guessing RUST means something besides deteriorating metal here in cmag-land. Very helpful post.

 

[motaco]

RUST is Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread. It's usually on the first few pages here in strains and hybrids forum. The link to the grow guide is in the first few paragraphs.

Before OG and all of that I was just another clueless bagseed grower. But to be honest just like Mr. GG I've spent five or ten bucks PER bean and been very unhappy with quality of plants or just the stone itself. Found just as good of plants out of the bagseed I was growing. Both brickseed and dank weed.

 

[Jellyfish]

Wow, that RUST thread is something else. Thank you very much for referring me to it!
Here's a link to it-
http://icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=36181

 

[Jellyfish]

Flipping through the bean collection, three distinct types emerged. A large pale green- to white variety, not like the little dead white ones sometimes found in brickweed. A grey-to-tan large variety, which were sometimes striped, spotted or otherwise mottled- the tiger striping mentioned earlier. The third variety, the chocolate colored ones, are also the smallest.
Does this only mean rare, medium and well-done, or something more?

Sure, 'Plant them and find out". But it's too hot here, so either the cooling problem gets solved, or friendlier temps. Besides, that would be illegal.
Cheers.
p.s.- These little condiment cups are great for sorting beans. And the best thing is, they're free. Thanks Arby's!

 

[Jellyfish]

A friend said he would sprout these, and take photos of whatever plants come up. Then I'll post them on here, and we can play 'Name That Weed' (anybody remember the movie Elephant Parts?)

We'll call this first one White-Green bagseed

Call these Grey-Tan bagseed

Call these beans Coffee-coloured bagseed

My friend thinks it might be another couple weeks b4 he can start them, but will keep me posted. Maybe I can contribute a little to this forum, a great resource.
Cheers.

 

[nuke]

The light colored ones are premature and not viable.

The "coffee" colored ones are cracked and dead already.

The tan ones are good to go.

 

[Jellyfish]

Haha, well, so much for my big experiment. Learned something though, so thanks.

 

[resin_lung]

Jellyfish- I've had light colored seeds pop before. If they aren't cracked they have a chance. Still worth it to try. It'll only cost you a shot glass worth of water, a wet paper towel and a ziplock baggie! I say go for it. Cause ya never know.

 

[shawkmon]

when i grow bagseed i put all seeds in a pot of soil, water , whatever grows i pull out put in a container, save whats killer

 

[Mr. Greengenes]

"Maybe somebody might come out of lurk mode and show a way to sex seeds by looking at them. Wouldn't that be something?" That person is sitting on a billion dollar industry!

Those cups of sorted seeds remind me of the time I got two seedbatches accidently mixed. The two plants were sisters, but the seeds were so distinct it was easy to sort them out.