Can Med Patients Ship To Each Other In The Same State?

[medmaker420]

Since I wouldn't go over state lines and both patients are legal would this be allowed? Maybe not using usps though BUT another delivery company....

Is anything in the law stating you can't?

 

[Blue Dot]

I think all mail (any company) is federal, even intrastate.

Probably has to do with the interstate commerce law.

I have no idea. Good question.

 

[bluebublelove]

I mean, you can. I just don't know how legal it is.

I actually often wondered this.

I have a good friend who works for the ups and leo's only come in for incidents if the ups company requests them so I guess as long as you cover your p's and q's you'd have no problem....however without a solid answer I'd treat it as if you were mailing it across the country.

 

[h^2 O]

you could use a courier i guess

 

[bluebublelove]

you could use a courier i guess

yeah, or a friend.

 

[B. Self Reliant]

Uhhhhh. . .

Med patients are routinely arrested and charged with all kinds of "offenses," regardless of Prop 215/SB 420. People who are 100% within the guidelines (as obscure as they may be) still get charged at times. Transporting is an especially sketchy area. There's no state-wide guideline for how to transport it, and LEO's don't use common sense. It's bullshit, but we all know how this shit turns out, and it's never in the patients favor.

Transporting any cannabis-related product is bad news. There are certain "bottlenecks" in our society, where a large percentage of busts happen. Our society's law enforcement/justice system is specifically designed to take advantage of people who are on road ways, use the mail system, traveling, etc. Very few people who keep a low profile get busted within their homes, because the law protects one's home and even LEO's have to respect that kind of stuff. Once you step out of your door, especially if you're driving with cannabis or mailing it, then you're on their home court.

I don't know what you stand to gain from this particular venture, so I can't say if it's worth it or not, but I don't know why you'd put yourself into a position of increased risk, especially when you know how stringent these things have become lately.

If it's detected somehow, you're screwed. If you're charged, you could be found guilty, or you could have you life fucked up and go through a whole bunch of bullshit and financial burden proving your innocence.

 

[Blue Dot]

Very few people who keep a low profile get busted within their homes, because the law protects one's home and even LEO's have to respect that kind of stuff. Once you step out of your door, especially if you're driving with cannabis or mailing it, then you're on their home court.

exactly

I don't know what you stand to gain from this particular venture, so I can't say if it's worth it or not,....

I don't know either but i don't think it's much of a stretch for a dispensary or a caregiver to think of this as a way of increasing their customer base.

I'm sure I'm not the first person that has thought about how awesome it would be for someone like me in San Diego to order meds from a dispensary in the bay area and receive them overnight.

 

[JWH-018]

It's true that fedex typically sends packages between SF and LA directly instead of via memphis, but they don't guarantee they will. If they wanted to they could notice the contents in norcal and divert the package to TN while tipping off the dea. Wouldn't happen for an ounce every once in a while but if you did it openly, regularly or were shipping weight it's certainly not impossible. Also since you wouldn't be able to check id or the rec in person it could easily be something the state would prosecute.

 

[medmaker420]

My reason was more for sending seeds to other med patients but in the same breath of course why couldn't it be possible and legal to ship LEGAL items between two patients.

I understand the IF you get busted but currently odds are if this was something other than herb it would be totally legal if both people had the license to carry/keep/have such an item.

Like a gun that you need a level 3 license for, it would be illegal to go through the mail between anyone other than those with that specific level 3 license.

Doesn't this make sense or am I just blazed right now.

 

[ocean99]

You're sending seeds? No reason to worry then dude...

 

[PharmaCan]

Canadian Pharmacies ship millions of prescriptions to the USA every year. So the concept must be legal. But Canadian Rx drugs aren't against federal law and MMJ is. I think with drugs and guns, the Federal Gov't contends that the very existence of things mean they could make their way out of the state, so the interstate commerce clause applies.

But seeds shouldn't be any problem, Conceal them well and send UPS or FedEx. I think there is even an overnight shipper here in California that ships only in the state. Those would be the folks to use.

PC

 

[B. Self Reliant]

My reason was more for sending seeds to other med patients but in the same breath of course why couldn't it be possible and legal to ship LEGAL items between two patients.

I understand the IF you get busted but currently odds are if this was something other than herb it would be totally legal if both people had the license to carry/keep/have such an item.

Seeds should be fine. In terms of if it was something else. . . well, we wouldn't be having this conversation if it was something else.

Unfortunately, bud is large, bulky and it has a strong odor. If someone knows of a way to mail it without ever getting caught, then spill the beans and share your wealth of knowledge. . . I personally would love to know! I've just never seen anything posted on this site or heard anything from anyone in the know that leads me to believe that the mail isn't a huge risk. Even if you're successful 99% of the time, well, that's just not good enough in this game.

I order seeds from Seed Boutique, and I've had friends mail me bud before. At this point in my life though, I try to keep the seed orders to a minimum and I never mail bud or hash. I don't want to be a downer or get all preachy on ya, I just think it's important to understand the risks.

Good luck!

 

[quadracer]

Any mailing of marijuana or marijuana seeds through the US Postal Service is a federal offense, and that is how a lot of people get busted (sending pounds through the mail).

However, if you use a private carrier like UPS or Fedex, and you ship intrastate, it is legal. The only problem with that is they do not need a warrant to open your package, and the stoners who work there will take your marijuana and you will get an empty box.

It's really a lose/lose situation.

 

[medmaker420]

great thoughts,

it was something running through my head.

I get the what if, and not using a federal carrier OR anyone who might redirect outside cali and then back in and the issues that can come from that. Also never thought of people jacking stuff from the shipping service themselves BUT that in itself would be different because I would have a legal right to have that package versus someone not reporting it due to it being an illegal effort and would rather cut their losses and hope to not get tagged.

Like when someone jacked a plant when growing without a card, you take it at a loss and get pissed off. With a card, you could actually report the theft and it should be looked into. I am sure in any shipping company there is a high chance of theft especially when someone sees a "Happy birthday from grandma" card and know there is a $20 or a $50 in there cash.

 

[mexilandrace]

use the post office, bullshit that you won't get busted at fedex or UPS, they can open and will open your package if they want to.

post office requires a warrant to open packages, and they are busy so it's less risk. Seeds don't smell like weed anyways, or well to dogs they do, but if they have a dog sniffing around you are fucked regardless.

statelines are your primary worries with feds.

Never never never ship via a private shipping company like fed ex or UPS.

and don't put your actual return address. 123 nofeds lane or something, never your addy.

 

[B. Self Reliant]

It's a fact that the USPS needs a warrant to open your package. Fed Ex and UPS don't. However, if they suspect anything, they have been known to report it. Will they? Your guess is as good as mine, but you can bet that I for one am not betting my freedom on the fact that the USPS won't detect my package, or that UPS/Fed Ex won't report it.

Of course the original issue was seeds, which isn't really an issue. That's the beauty of cannabis. . . as long as we have seeds, we can never be stopped!

 

[Pythagllio]

It is a myth that FedEx and UPS open packages without obtaining warrants. Do they need to technically? No, but SOP is still to get a warrant for suspicious packages, and to not open packages without one. Do some research, quit posting misinformation.

 

[quadracer]

It is a myth that FedEx and UPS open packages without obtaining warrants. Do they need to technically? No, but SOP is still to get a warrant for suspicious packages, and to not open packages without one. Do some research, quit posting misinformation.

Please, I've known plenty of people who have lost their stash through UPS. Shit, I've even known someone who worked for UPS who said the same thing about "suspicious" packages. It's pretty obvious what is inside when the package reeks like marijuana.

The workers aren't stupid. They know what's up.

If you are going to mail something, at least be smart about it. Make sure it doesn't smell, everything is concealed, the box is well packaged, and the return address is believable. Don't make one up on the spot.

 

[FreedomFGHTR]

If you are going to provide cannabis to other legal patients in the state is best to use your own drivers. Don't trust a courier or parcel service. Make sure your drivers have SB 420 county cards.

 

[Pythagllio]

Well of course thieves don't get a search warrant, whether they work at USPS or FedEx or UPS. That's just plain silly to think that has anything to do with company policy, or having law enforcement pursuing the sender/recipient.

The truth is only a Google search away.