Escaping California

[IE2KS_KUSH]

Hey all.
I am getting ready to 86 2 years worth of blood, tears, and all around hardwork.
I have finally gotten to a point here, that I am able to grow perpetually, and still experiment w/ new strains. Finally gotten to the point to where I know I will never run out of weed and am able to keep myself in supply. I have an established mother, cloning method, and room dialed in for the most part.
To my surprise, my family and I have decided to flee California, in hopes of getting a better life. To say that we have struggled since arriving is an understatement. The only success to speak of, is my growing. And now I am going to shut it all down. Temporarily mind you, as I will be starting over from scratch when we arrive back home. Hardest thing I have ever done. I have a very limited supply of Mandala HB and Sat, as well as some PPP from Nirvana and MIS freebies. The only thing that makes me feel a little better, is the fact that I know I will live to grow another day, and that I can get right back to the point I am at now.
Things I am not looking forward to.
Going dry before being able to get rolling again. As per security, I am not bringing my stash w/ me, nor any clones or my mum. I am literally starting over from scratch. I will end all of my logs here, and resume new ones when I resume growing again.
I am not looking forward to actually residing in a "small town" at all. Looking the other night, we realized that 1 town we were eyeballing will probably be out of the question, all of the homes are basically a stones throw from public schools eeek!
Also not looking forward to the fact that I will no longer have good access to supplies. I have no fucking idea where I am going to get FFof dirt for example? Obviously not going to be getting bags of soil shipped. And getting items shipped is another story all together. All in all, my securtiy stress is going to raise about 10 fold.
It is heartbreaking, I have 3 of my "KS" clones in flower now, that won't finish, I realized that there is no way them or my HB and Sat will finish, due to the fact that I have to get the room torn down and put back to it's original condition ASAP. My wife and son are leaving ahead of me, and I will be driving back, I have accepted that I will be sacraficing my stash, work, plants, everything to ensure that I will be able to grow again another day when I get there. It took alot of internal debate for me to get to the point of not trying to bring my stash back or some plants. No matter how small the risk, I cannot chance it you know.
We have no family here, and speaking in terms of my family, it's way the best thing to be heading back home. So in the short term, my life is gonna be pretty boring, sober, and plantless.
Once we get home I also have to worry about stupid shit like landlords that like to come by, nosy people, etc.....
this is gonna suck very much bad. Luckily I have all of my equipment, so it's just a matter of finding the right place, and getting set back up. Just sucks ass. It also sucks ass that I can't go out and get an 1/8th of kush in the meantime while I get going. Where I am going there are NO other options, mexi brick weed is it. Don't even know of anyone else there that grows w/ the exception of a couple of folks I have met here. It makes me want to cry, but at the same time, it is absolutely the right thing to do for my family so what do you do?
So that's it, just wanted to share, maybe some of you can share some of your own experiences w/ regard to moving and starting over. Of course my mother, I cannot replace. That is what gets me the most, she was my first plant worthy of mumdumhood, and I never thought in a millon years we would be moving back. Hell, I have clones ready to go into the flower room now that are in dirt. AAAAGH!
I am so upset.
There I feel a little better getting this out. I just never would of thought.
Lucky for me, I won't really miss the dispensaries, and shit like that. Although I am a "Legal MMJ Patient" here, since I have been growing, I have not set foot into a clinic anywhere. No need to. Just so much flying through my head.
Jeeeezus Fuck!

 

[masterKahn]

Sorry to here about your grow shutting down, Mexi brick weed can have some interesting plants in those seeds

There are many many ways to save your mother. A small unrooted clone can escape detection very easily and travels well when packaged properly.

Lights, fans, seeds,dirt and Jah shall provide. You have the most valuable grow tool in your arsenal, knowledge!

I'm assuming you are going from a med/pot friendly state(cali) to a very unfriendly state. Keep your lips tight, your carbon fresh and activated and stay safe. Soon the ganja will come to you no worries.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

Yeah I know, obviously I think the NYCD line had that influence, but as far as smoking, and eating, not gonna happen. I had a freind offer to smoke me out while I was just back there, and I declined. His eyes about fell outta his head, he was like, "wtf? Sorry, you don't smoke?"
I laughed, and told him I smoke all day everday, for free so to speak and laughed again. But I will not smoke that shit ever again in my life. Before I came out here, I just didn't know any better, and I am not putting down anyone. I smoked that shit for years and years. I enjoyed it. But it's just a principle thing w/ me, I cannot allow myself to smoke something that I have no idea what's in it. Where it came from, whom is profitting from it, etc...not me.
Not to mention that would put me in a situation back home where I would be seeking it out, another person would know that I am in possesion at any given point, I would be in a buy/recieve hand to hand that brings risk, just not worth it to me.
I am just gonna lay low, and build my grow back up and stick to my own herb for what I need. I did that out here actually, I was at a point where I was dry, but I refused to purchase it, knowing that I can produce a good product myself. I am hard headed I guess.

I like that, "Keep my carbon fresh and activated!" Yes, those are gonna be words to live by. I worry more about the incidental wierd ass off the wall thing that you never see coming, like some crazy house repair that compromises a grow, stuff like that. Here, local LEO can suck a dick you know. If they wanna hassle me they can, but in the end I will win that war. Back home that is not the case. At all. I am strongly considering setting up a decoy grow of just regular veggies while I get my shit straight for the real mccoy, just to see what may happen. I don't know how unrealistic that is, probably just a waste of time, but....I wouldn't put anything past them out there. LEO are fucking cowboys. They get away w/ quite a bit more than what they would in a more populous area. That's scary to me.
I know I could get a clone back, but the only way I can garuantee that I live to grow another day is to not do it. Not to mention I don't want to be crossing state lines w/ it. Hell I am shipping my bongs, pipes, and vaporizors all back. I am gonna be squeeky clean when I have to hit the road for that long ride.
The last point you hit on is the only thing that gives me assurance. The fact that I will be able to pick back up and continue my work again. I cannot explain what a good feeling it is knowing that in time, I will once again have a never ending supply of fine cannabis and cannabis products lol.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

It's ironic, when I moved to California, I thought that I was gonna get access to the best of the best you know, what I learned was that growing my own, was the best. Now I am going back to where I came I from, and I am bringing the best of the best w/ me, in my head and will be able to have access at home now. Hell, after 1 year being out here, I never set foot into a clinic. I have never used clones that weren't mine. Total self sufficient. I am so glad that I chose to learn this. Invaluable. I am very fortunate, and grateful. Hell I moved here specifically to work in a dispensary, and I am leaving here w/ no need for anything of that nature now. I feel like the king of the universe in that aspect.
Luckily as much of a pain in the ass it will be to start over, I passionately love the work. I look forward to it and to the fruits I have yet to enjoy.
I may also be able to be in a position to build a legit customized room, because unlike out here, back home I could buy a home. Who knows what's in store for my passion next? My resolve to continue my work and passion however, grows stronger every second of everyday.

 

[Care Free 1]

I am strongly considering setting up a decoy grow of just regular veggies while I get my shit straight for the real mccoy, just to see what may happen.

A great idea, and a good confidence builder. Good luck on your new journey.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

A great idea, and a good confidence builder. Good luck on your new journey.

The only thing that worries me are the local LEOs. I had my issues before I left, and I didn't even grow. I just don't put it past them to use illegal means to justify trying to bust my ass, and if they ever have any suspicion, I am pretty much done out there, they do not play. We all play our parts though, they have their job and I have mine. Nothing in life is easy though, if it was everyone would do it. Makes me really want to focus on collecting pollen, backcrossing what I have, and setting up mums as a number 1 priority once I get there as opposed to getting myself into smoke, although I will want to do that as well. Also gives me the chance to wipe the slate clean, and design anew, which will likely yield significant improvements on it's own, so really it will end up being a very good thing. Just a very tough good thing.

 

[catmanrob]

NEVER LEAVE, just move citys....IM in nevada right now, its fucking ass, people are "pussy ass" when it comes to MJ laws...but old men screw 16 year olds because its consentioal age..really wtf is wrong with this country??? I cant wait to get back from vacation... Cali is where Im from and where Ill die..

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

Cali is great, I would have never been secure enough to embark on what I did back home. And now that I have a reasonable clue as to what it is I am doing, I can't imagine not doing anywhere I live.

 

[lordbudly]

kind of sad ie kush, but you made the right choice, hey have you considered hydro? keep a fat mother in a 5 gallon pale of dirt and then just clone and pop in a dwc or something?

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

kind of sad ie kush, but you made the right choice, hey have you considered hydro? keep a fat mother in a 5 gallon pale of dirt and then just clone and pop in a dwc or something?

Not while I was gonna be here, but now I am looking stongly at it. Since I will likely not be getting the dirt, but I know I saw whiskeytango using home depot stuff, and he seems to do really well w/ it. But then again, he is slightly light years beyond where I am in terms of growing exp, I may not do as well lol.
Also considered making my own compost mix, and going the other direction to, but that would be more down the road and not a short term solution. Also considering buying 10 bags of FFOF, some FFLW before I leave and bringing it w/ me to buy myself some time while I figure out how I am gonna grow based on what I have available. I got about a millon zillon things going through my head. No lack of confidence though. I also know in my heart anything that I could need to learn, I know this great place w/ tons of good growers and endless amounts of information lol.
Like I said, I know it won't be easy.
On an unrelated note, just realized that I can't do any bubble tonight, my last run suck royal ass and I thought it was something that I did, well, I just figured out the bags I have are not the right size. My smallest is 86, the other to are over 200 on screen size. So fuck me sideways, guess I will be makin lots and lots and lots of iso. One giangantic batch, or many smaller ones. hmmmm? Or, maybe I should just kief everything. Decisions decisions.

 

[lordbudly]

Not while I was gonna be here, but now I am looking stongly at it. Since I will likely not be getting the dirt, but I know I saw whiskeytango using home depot stuff, and he seems to do really well w/ it. But then again, he is slightly light years beyond where I am in terms of growing exp, I may not do as well lol.
Also considered making my own compost mix, and going the other direction to, but that would be more down the road and not a short term solution. Also considering buying 10 bags of FFOF, some FFLW before I leave and bringing it w/ me to buy myself some time while I figure out how I am gonna grow based on what I have available. I got about a millon zillon things going through my head. No lack of confidence though. I also know in my heart anything that I could need to learn, I know this great place w/ tons of good growers and endless amounts of information lol.
Like I said, I know it won't be easy.
On an unrelated note, just realized that I can't do any bubble tonight, my last run suck royal ass and I thought it was something that I did, well, I just figured out the bags I have are not the right size. My smallest is 86, the other to are over 200 on screen size. So fuck me sideways, guess I will be makin lots and lots and lots of iso. One giangantic batch, or many smaller ones. hmmmm? Or, maybe I should just kief everything. Decisions decisions.

easy way to fix this, go to wal mart/home DePot and pick up a couple of those bricks of peat

http://www.home-improvement-superst...m=CPC&zmam=8568711&zmas=4&zmac=87&zmap=514224

add this http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1335619&CAWELAID=155514326

just a tiny bit of this http://www.thegreathardwarestore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=829364&click=2744

oh and http://www.legaltripz.com/Pics/big_bud_marijuana.jpg of course!this is the exact same as 90% of potting soil mixes out their, only difference is people have different values of the above stuff and how much and what kind nutrients they add, ^^ this mix convienitly is low on nutes so you can control exactly what goes into it,http://htgsupply.com/nutrients.asp?categoryID=2&subcategoryID=111 would be my nutrient of choice since it is a perfect nutrient for both veg and flower, 27 some for a quart of it and its good for like a year minimum keep it in the dark,6ml/gal for veg and 9ml/gal for flower, so have a quart or two of this stuff fly in and your set for a long time, and all of the above soil stuff can easily be found at walmart or hd

 

[Cyber9]

Sorry to hear about your troubles man... I've never been but cali sounds like stoner heaven... but if you gotta leave you gotta leave. The only thing stopping me from going there is I'm canadian.. I don't really wanna live as a illegal, I dunno maybe in the future.

Ever thought about mailing your clone ahead of you if you dont wanna carry it... like ive seen some pretty small stealthy ways of packing clones.. its like 3 inches tall man.. I'm sure you can figure something out.. I wouldnt throw away all that hard work, its gonna take you 6 months to find a new mother.

oh yah, I just use a bale of peat (sunshine mix #4) from homedepot
they are like 27 bucks Canadian.. you may have to drive to a bigger town or something and stock up on supplies every so often.

 

[FreedomFGHTR]

Peace out mang! Have a really good mexican dinner before you leave, mexican food isn't as good elsewhere. California used to be Mexico...

 

[catmanrob]

if you plan to go somewhere you gotta bring your ocean forrest with ya, id pay 50 bucks a bag if I was in another state and didnt have a choice, it sucks to leave but if the laws screwing with ya, and there targeting ya, what can ya do???

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

That's basically a homemade peat based soiless mix right? Hydro rules for that as far as ph in too? Perlite to help it breath, and the dl to counteract the peat dragging the ph down. Is that all right? It's gonna be fun, like learning how to grow all over again kinda. That's all good info though, very re-assuring. I just keep repeating to myself shaking my head, "it'll be ok it'll be ok."
Thought about coco as well, but whatever I do, I am going to be setting up a dedicated RO system and running an aerorated large rez, regardless of whether or not I go hydro, soil, whatever. No more luggin' water for me.
I have read lots of good things about the flora nova and gh 3 part in that link. They seem alot simpler than what I am using, w/ my SWAG method. I really think this move is gonna aid me in getting to the next level w/ my work by forcing me to evovle my skills. I am starting to look forward to it.
And of course makes me feel good to know folks round here like yourself lordbudly, always ready, willing and able to help with great advice and info. Gotta love it. It's a wonder that more folks do not seriousely grow. Boggles the mind!

 

[Cyber9]

Yah you pretty much nailed it, it runs as hydro.. This is my first grow with it, I just added some perilite.. seems to be working out alright.

I also use floranova... i dont know why anyone would use anything else.. 8/ml per gal simple.

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

Sorry to hear about your troubles man... I've never been but cali sounds like stoner heaven... but if you gotta leave you gotta leave. The only thing stopping me from going there is I'm canadian.. I don't really wanna live as a illegal, I dunno maybe in the future.

Ever thought about mailing your clone ahead of you if you dont wanna carry it... like ive seen some pretty small stealthy ways of packing clones.. its like 3 inches tall man.. I'm sure you can figure something out.. I wouldnt throw away all that hard work, its gonna take you 6 months to find a new mother.

oh yah, I just use a bale of peat (sunshine mix #4) from homedepot
they are like 27 bucks Canadian.. you may have to drive to a bigger town or something and stock up on supplies every so often.

Still up in the air over that to be honest. I am kinda considering that, but there will only be a narrow window to possibly do that if I can. And I very well may not have the chance. Just have to wait and see. I was just about due to replace my original mum anyways. I sure hope I can, that would be so nice.

Peace out mang! Have a really good mexican dinner before you leave, mexican food isn't as good elsewhere. California used to be Mexico...

Ya my wife will for sure, me I am gonna miss the sushi and seafood. I live on it.

if you plan to go somewhere you gotta bring your ocean forrest with ya, id pay 50 bucks a bag if I was in another state and didnt have a choice, it sucks to leave but if the laws screwing with ya, and there targeting ya, what can ya do???

Ya that's gonna hurt. I get it for 14 bucks a bag now. Which may or may not be a good deal out here. IDK. But yeah, bye bye FFOF, on to new adventures. I would love to open a hydro shop back home, there really aren't any to speak of that I know of, 1 in Wichita and a couple up by KC, and I think that might be it from what I seen online. Not to mention, I would never be able to actually go there myself, not w/ those fucking cowboys out there!
As far as leo here screwing w/ me, don't misunderstand, I have had my incidents, but everything that I went through literally happened the first 5 minutes that I came here, and since then no problems, just can't make life work out here, and can't justify keeping my son away from his family back home. We actually have a good oppurtunity to get back, if we don't take it now, I don't know where we will be in a year. That's what it really comes down to. At this point I am certain that I am well under the radar of the local LEO, the feds you never know, but no issues since my initial encounter, which was enough for me. That's why I do not and have not gone into a disp or sold or done anything aside from grow and smoke my own. May have been overkill, but I believe it likely served me well. I am here today.

 

[lordbudly]

you pretty much nailed it on the peat mixes, but most people think just because its sold in a store its soil, miracle grow is peat based, ffof is peat based, they are both soil-less, not soil

 

[IE2KS_KUSH]

Yah you pretty much nailed it, it runs as hydro.. This is my first grow with it, I just added some perilite.. seems to be working out alright.

I also use floranova... i dont know why anyone would use anything else.. 8/ml per gal simple.

Does that retain water more than coco? Do you precondition your medium like you might w/ coco? I got alot of reading to do. And some learning on the fly as usual.

 

[Cyber9]

Does that retain water more than coco? Do you precondition your medium like you might w/ coco? I got alot of reading to do. And some learning on the fly as usual.

No idea man, I've only used hydroton and soiless mix. I haven't preconditioned the sunshine mix at all. It holds a ton of water.. I hand water every 5 days or so.