Should I breed these plants?

[MrMcBean]

Hi,

I have some plants and some are male. They are Lowryder 2 about 4 weeks old growing in soil under the SUN on a balcony.

-1-One of the males has shown some hermi action. He has white hairs comming out of one of the polen sacks.

-2-I also had some tremendous luck because one of my seeds germed 2 sprouts which are now growing together. One of the sprouts is a male and the other is a female.

Are either of the genetics mentioned good for crossing?

What would happen if i crossed the twin (2) male/female with each other?

If the hermed male (1) has the tendency to go female, would he not be good for feminized seeds or is that only hermed females that work there..

Thanks for the great help I always get here..

peace

 

[shaunmulok]

My understanding is if you breed with a hermy the hermy trait has a high chance off being passed on so i wouldn't use it
peace

 

[cork144]

those conjoined plants sound interesting lol! one male and one female, wow.

 

[medmaker420]

you can breed out the hermie trait in a few generations. Also why not just breed the not hermie male with the fems?

 

[UnknownProphet]

PLEASE DON'T CROSS IT!

THERE'S WAY TOO MUCH RUDERALIS MAKING IT'S WAY INTO THE SEEN.

 

[lordbudly]

PLEASE DON'T CROSS IT!

THERE'S WAY TOO MUCH RUDERALIS MAKING IT'S WAY INTO THE SEEN.

dude they are 3 lowryders, DONT CROSS RUDERALIS WITH RUDERALIS BECAUSE U MIGHT GET RUDERALIS? serious bro?


dj shorts says hermy males are good and usually REMOVE hermy traits in offspring

 

[SouthernGuerila]

Sounds like a mutant nightmare...

 

[Mr. Greengenes]

"-2-I also had some tremendous luck because one of my seeds germed 2 sprouts which are now growing together. One of the sprouts is a male and the other is a female." This is like hitting the lottery, believe me. I grew out some 14 of these pairs a few years back, and never found one pair that was male female. In other areas of horiculture, these twin are used to make an apomictic cross, which should be immediately stable for most traits. You MUST breed these plants together and post the results!

 

[masterKahn]

only one way to really find out if you ask me

 

[Mr. Greengenes]

People are quick to blame the genes for a plant being a hermaphrodite, but it's good to remember that if you have very good growing chops, you may never see a hermie even with a strain or seedbatch that other grower find hermies in.

 

[shawkmon]

dj shorts says hermy males are good and usually REMOVE hermy traits in offspring

i read this too a while back, any info on this would be appreciated,

and on the twins, breed them yes, i say do it like above poster said

 

[Mr. Greengenes]

Apomixis alert!!! Cannabis history in the making?

 

[VanXant]

MrGreengenes:"I grew out some 14 of these pairs a few years back, and never found one pair that was male female. In other areas of horiculture, these twin are used to make an apomictic cross, which should be immediately stable for most traits."

>>>NO. its just a fraternal twin seedling. And no, they dont make apomictic varieties from fraternal twins. Fraternal twinning is caused by a twinned embryo(fertilized post-meiosis) by 2 different pollen grains. one was an X-type gamete and one was a Y-type gamete.

Cannabis is not apomictic.

14 pairs uh? thats very unusual. Was your seedlot severely inbred or something?

MrGreenegenes:"People are quick to blame the genes for a plant being a hermaphrodite, but it's good to remember that if you have very good growing chops, you may never see a hermie even with a strain or seedbatch that other grower find hermies in."

>>Uhh..hermaphroditic expressions are CERTAINLY due to genes. These genes are influenced by the environment, so although it is true to say that environment may allow for intersexual plants to NOT produce an intersex PHENOTYPE, it is also true to say that intersexuality is first controlled by genes.

 

[Mr. Greengenes]

I didn't say hemies weren't due to genes, I just said that both environment and genes play a part so you can't seperate them.

You're making assertations VanXant, have you read anything about apomixis at all?

"severely inbred" hehe, I'm having a hard time taking you seriously bro. The seedbatch I mentioned that had many twins in it was an F2 with extreme variation, hardly 'inbred'.

"cannabis is not apomictic" dude, you are too much. Do you have an agenda? I never got a male female pair, but this guy did. If you check your books again you'll see that we have both der X and der Y in that pair. Lets let him breed them and see. You don't want to weigh in too soon and be proven wrong, do you? I'm willing to find out I'm wrong. But, not by your assertations. I'll wait and see what happens.

 

[MrMcBean]

crap crap and crap..

well Mr. Greengenes Thanks for your great info.. sadly It came a bit late and I already chopped off the male side..

Now its too late (( I would have gladely done it for curiositys worth..

peace