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U.S. judges seek massive California prisoner release

belfast

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"U.S. judges seek massive California prisoner release
Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:04am EST

By Peter Henderson

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Federal judges on Monday tentatively ordered California to release tens of thousands of inmates, up to a third of all prisoners, in the next three years to stop dangerous overcrowding.

As many as 57,000 could be let go if the current population were cut by the maximum percentage considered by a three-judge panel. Judges said the move could be done without threatening public safety -- and might improve a public safety hazard.

The state immediately said it would appeal the final ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Trend-setting California, the Golden State, has an immense prison system responsible for nearly 170,000 inmates, and their care has become a major political and budget issue as officials weigh multibillion costs of improved facilities against death and illness behind bars.

State officials say new doctors, nurses and prison rules have improved care and cut the dangers of living behind bars.

Meanwhile California is staggering through budget crisis as its real estate market has collapsed and unemployment has spiked.

The three judges specifically said they planned to order the system, swollen to about double its capacity last year, to cut down to 120 percent to 145 percent of capacity within two to three years. They did not give a target headcount.

APPEAL VOWED

California already houses some inmates out of state. Its main in-state prisons and camps had more than 157,000 prisoners, or 188 percent of capacity, as of the end of January, according to state figures, and a cut to 120 percent of capacity would mean letting go about 57,000 prisoners.

"They've told the state, 'You're going to lose,'" said Alison Hardy, a lawyer with Berkeley, California-based Prison Law Office, which with other attorneys represented plaintiffs who had sued the state over overcrowding in its prisons."
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http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSTRE5190CB20090210
 

CoonLover

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As long as they were non-violent crimes I don't have an issue with it. Being a lot of people doing bids are for bullshit drug crimes, let them go. Prison's are for violent offenders.
 

turbolaser4528

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nice, they should let all marijuana related offenders out for sure. also let let out all non violent offenders like this guy said. its such a waste of money, to put someone behind bars costs the state like 50k a year, or something in that area.

non-violent drug offenders shouldn't be on the taxpayers back, FREE THEM ALL!!!
 

EvilAsh

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hopefully oneday soon the country will stop spending so much money to house low level offenders like drug crimes which are really only a crime against the person doing said drugs.....you cant get much more victimless than that
 

robbiedublu

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I'm not sure anyone who is a "nonviolent" offender should be let out. There was some guy here locally who was arrested for stealing cars over 20 times in less than a year. Whenever he needed to go somewhere he just stole a car to drive there. With no threat of prison there will be lots more people like that. It's no biggie until it's your car that ends up stolen. No nonviolent drug offenders should be in prison though.
 

Skip

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This is from February. Why was this posted in the News section? That is for current news only. Thanks.
 
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California's a hoax. It looks so nice and warm and fun on TV and the movies, but then you find out like 1 in 5 Californians are in prison. It's bad. I was thinking about UCLA film school or USC grad school. I dunno anymore. I'd prob. get busted growing some shit bagseed and be doing a nickel with murderers and rapists. California has gone down hill in the past decade. REAL bad.
 

Minion

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California's a hoax. It looks so nice and warm and fun on TV and the movies, but then you find out like 1 in 5 Californians are in prison. It's bad. I was thinking about UCLA film school or USC grad school. I dunno anymore. I'd prob. get busted growing some shit bagseed and be doing a nickel with murderers and rapists. California has gone down hill in the past decade. REAL bad.

Same with the rest of the country.
 

belfast

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This is from February. Why was this posted in the News section? That is for current news only. Thanks.

I had only just heard it and did not see the date until after posting.

This is one is more up to date.

Michigan may take California inmates
"LANSING – Gov. Jennifer Granholm offered empty beds in Michigan prisons to house inmates from California today as the Golden State seeks solutions to prison overcrowding and a massive budget deficit.
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Granholm sent a letter to California Gov. Arnold Schwarznegger after speaking to him personally, in which she called the offer an “opportunity (that) has great potential and could be mutually beneficial.” Granholm said several empty facilities and soon-to-be-vacated prisons in Standish and Muskegon could be available.

Califorrnia faces the prospect of being forced to release tens of thousands of inmates to ease overcrowding, even as it addresses a $24.3 billion deficit.

Granholm’s letter said terms of a prison space sharing plan could be worked out in negotiations."
http://www.freep.com/article/200906...fers+empty+prison+beds+for+California+inmates
 

Open Eyes

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The state immediately said it would appeal the final ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Yeah, that theory of incarcerating thousands of non-violent offenders has worked so far so lets continue it till we drive the states budget really into the red for good since it obviously is not red enough yet.
 

belfast

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Brother can you spare a dime?
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Hash Zeppelin

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I doubt the U.S. supreme court will even take the case. Which means the state is going to lose. This will be a great victory for the state if they lose they just dont see it that way.
 

belfast

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I doubt the U.S. supreme court will even take the case. Which means the state is going to lose. This will be a great victory for the state if they lose they just dont see it that way.

"Every cloud has silver lining" even the present down turn.

It is sad to see a county like American that was once the shining hope of Liberty for the whole world , now having the biggest prison population in the world.


"The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate, and total documented prison population in the world. As of year-end 2007, a record 7.2 million people were behind bars, on probation or on parole. Of the total, 2.3 million were incarcerated. More than 1 in 100 American adults were incarcerated at the start of 2008. The People's Republic of China ranks second with 1.5 million, while having four times the population, thus having only about 18% of the US incarceration rate."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States

That is more people that live on the Island of Ireland north and south.
 

sweetpoison

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I'm not sure anyone who is a "nonviolent" offender should be let out. There was some guy here locally who was arrested for stealing cars over 20 times in less than a year. Whenever he needed to go somewhere he just stole a car to drive there. With no threat of prison there will be lots more people like that. It's no biggie until it's your car that ends up stolen. No nonviolent drug offenders should be in prison though.
I agree, it should be limited to those who commit victimless crimes:yeahthats
 
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