Help identify my bugs

[greenatik]

so I got these clones from the dispensary (and brought a clone inside from the backyard ) and nuked them asap with a no pest strip overnight. about a week later I have started to see some unusual bugs, kind of look like gnats but longer clear wings and a rounder body. kind of look like little helicopters. They aren't gnats. And from what I can tell they aren't thrips

Also, bugs that look like springtails but browner in color and they crawl around the coco, mainly around the rockwool cube and down the sides. Been spraying with neem oil and can't see any damage to the leaves.

I have attempted to attach a picture of the ones that don't fly. The ones that do fly are more of a concern, they just chill on the leaves and I usually find a couple every time I peek into the veg box. but they are camera shy.



Any ideas? Are they harmful?

Thanks,
Green

 

[Greyskull]

phyloxcera/root aphids?

 

[kushism]

I concur with Greyskull!

do the non-flyers look like aphids? there are forms of root aphids that have complex life cycles.. females spend their life crawling in the medium, males turn into "gnat" looking flyers.. check my signature for a good thread to identify and eradicate if they are indeed root aphids.. i dunno tho, maybe another pic or 2, clearer and closer up may help us identify..

Good Luck

 

[snowman06]

Check out this site I gurantee they wont steer you wrong this worked on a varity of 6ugs for me. http://homeharvest.com/beneinsthrips.htm

 

[greenatik]

sorry that was the best macro I could take. but I do concur, just came to the same conclusion myself. the complex life cycles and gnat-looking flying males. will check out the thread.

thank you!!

 

[shaunmulok]

I haven't seen those before, Always learning, thanks

 

[snowman06]

no problem green its perfect if your and organic grower or just grow in soil in general plus they got fair prices peace!!

 

[kushism]

they are still really young clones??? if so, hit them with a very very light dose of merit75(imidiclorpid powder) or bayer advanced imid particles.. this stuff will knock em out with 1 application.. peruse the the thread i suggested.. ignore the last several posts in that thread, as i and many friends have smoked herb that was treated with imid at 4 weeks of flower and have noticed nothing negative..

hope it helps, in my experience, the faster you knock em out, the better.. i tried organic, non pesticide methods, and none helped.. no worries about the pic, you will find a few in the phylloxera thread that may help you identify..

Good Luck..

 

[snowman06]

do yousmell that? It smells like a organic hater haha Iam fucced up

 

[kushism]

do yousmell that? It smells like a organic hater haha Iam fucced up

LoL Organic hater nope.. I tried them.. ALOT of them, and some work great if you just want to control infestations.. when i have bugs i aim for eradication, plain and simple.. if i had found an organic product that could eradicate root aphids, i would gladly use it, but sadly i never did..

BUT.... For thrips. worms and caterpilars i swear by Monterey insect garden spray(spinosad) which is OMRI listed as organic

again i am not an organic hater, i just know what works for me..

 

[snowman06]

I fell u kush I jus no what works for me give that site a try though if you near VA it works great the stuff they have plus sum nem oil consencrate!! peace bro Iam baked

 

[greenatik]

they are still really young clones??? if so, hit them with a very very light dose of merit75(imidiclorpid powder) or bayer advanced imid particles.. this stuff will knock em out with 1 application.. peruse the the thread i suggested.. ignore the last several posts in that thread, as i and many friends have smoked herb that was treated with imid at 4 weeks of flower and have noticed nothing negative..

hope it helps, in my experience, the faster you knock em out, the better.. i tried organic, non pesticide methods, and none helped.. no worries about the pic, you will find a few in the phylloxera thread that may help you identify..

Good Luck..

hey kush i've been reading through that thread I guess I hadn't got to the good stuff because the first 10 pages no one had found a cure yet. that merit75 shit is expensive, and the bayer advanced? can you explain more? like bayer aspirin?

 

[greenatik]

and the flying males? should I put up blue sticky traps? and yes the clones are still young. about 7-8 seedlings a week in and 4 clones a week in. weird thing is that the aphids seem to prefer the casey jones more than anything else in the cab

thanks again!

 

[kushism]

the imid will kill the flyer's too.. the bayer is cheaper, lower concentration, and works, i used the merit 75, which was way cheaper than the liquid form.. just add 1/2 teaspoon of the merit to a 5 gallon bucket of r/o or ph'd water.. then soak em for an hour or 2, water top down, just let the roots sit in that water long enough for it to be absorbed.. you will notice no live bugs, crawling or flying, within 48 hours.

 

[greenatik]

ah, bayer advanced tree and shrub particles?

 

[kushism]

those are the ones.. i liked the merit as it was easily dissolved in the water.. but yes the bayer advanced tree and shrub works also

 

[snowman06]

just remeber this if you plan on harvesting anywhere s=whith in a month your butting those chemiclas in your body and making your plants tast like shit!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[greenatik]

it says 12 months protection because it goes into the roots and up into the plant. no harm or problems smokin it 60 days later huh?

 

[HydroManiac]

When I had a problem with aphids I used avid and it knocked them out mothing else worked for me but that. If their eating away your roots maybe try gnatrol

 

[greenatik]

and one last question can the bayer be found at home depot or a local gardening kind of store

thanks kush you have been a ton of help