THANKS for that post. I'll never recommend flushing again. I always wondered if it was losing a week's growth and healthy metabolism for nothing but an organic hippy ritual.
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THANKS for that post. I'll never recommend flushing again. I always wondered if it was losing a week's growth and healthy metabolism for nothing but an organic hippy ritual.
I've never noticed a difference as far as I'm concerned buds not smoking properly is usually a cure issue not a flush issue, obviously you want to cut down the nutes and completly stop phosphorous as it makes bud burn poorly.
Anyone else noticed it's possible to flush after cutting the plant down? So no need to starve the plant while it's alive, hang the full plant at the edge of the grow room for 4 days and the plant wil continue to metabolize the nutes in the leaves while not adding any more from the roots which are no longer attached. Leave the leaves on and the buds are protected from excess light, the leaves will yellow out and the plant will die after 4 days, trim and dry in the dark as normal.
Anyone else noticed it's possible to flush after cutting the plant down? So no need to starve the plant while it's alive, hang the full plant at the edge of the grow room for 4 days and the plant wil continue to metabolize the nutes in the leaves while not adding any more from the roots which are no longer attached. Leave the leaves on and the buds are protected from excess light, the leaves will yellow out and the plant will die after 4 days, trim and dry in the dark as normal.
If your weed tastes grassy it was in all likelihood a) taken too early, b) dried too quickly and in too many little bits, and c) not cured long enough.
Don't even bother checking trichomes until all the hairs have turned. When you chop the plant, leave it intact and dry the thing upside-down, whole. It should take 2-3 days for the plant just to die, never mind dry out. After a week to 10 days, it should be dry enough to trim. Trim it up and jar it up. Burp the jars daily for the first 10 days or so, then weekly for the next 2 weeks. then leave them alone for a month.
Don't even bother checking trichomes until all the hairs have turned. When you chop the plant, leave it intact and dry the thing upside-down, whole. It should take 2-3 days for the plant just to die, never mind dry out. After a week to 10 days, it should be dry enough to trim. Trim it up and jar it up. Burp the jars daily for the first 10 days or so, then weekly for the next 2 weeks. then leave them alone for a month.
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fully baked
For you DWC and hydro growers out there.....
Do you pH adjust your water during your flush???
Cheers,
FB
Do you pH adjust your water during your flush???
Cheers,
FB
I do, but I've not done a side-by-side test to see if it really does anything.
Might not be a bad idea to pH it down to like 5.2 and lock a bunch of stuff out
but again I've not tried it
the extra acidity might even improve leaching action
Quick! to the science werks!
Might not be a bad idea to pH it down to like 5.2 and lock a bunch of stuff out
but again I've not tried it
the extra acidity might even improve leaching action
Quick! to the science werks!
the average joe doesnt know better, some buds like purples have really chemmy tastes however the chem taste is what makes it smell so grapey and people love that.
GH seems to make plants have a grapey taste. i flushed my plants for a week and didnt really notice that much of a difference between a bud i picked before flushing. the one i didnt flush definately smelt way stronger and way fruitier.
GH seems to make plants have a grapey taste. i flushed my plants for a week and didnt really notice that much of a difference between a bud i picked before flushing. the one i didnt flush definately smelt way stronger and way fruitier.
"Flushing" weed is the most retarded idea ever....
I thought this was put to bed back in the OG days.... someone did like a 10 page writeup on the biochemical processes going on and the fact that your essentially STARVING your plant in its MOST PRODUCTIVE stage! [I need to read farther: it was vaaran, thats right, and its right there to observe page 2, kudos!]
Im @ this exact instant ripping a bong filled with HYDRO CHEM kush that is to die for..... CNS17 to its last second
ppl think the "fresh cut grass" smell is from not flushing or a little snap-crackle-pop means "chemmy"
get out more....try NOT flushing, stop regurgitating what you heard online....
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fully baked
My last harvest was poorly flushed (one lady got a 4 day flush, and the other received no flush) and I could definitely taste and tell the difference. GH nutes need to be flushed in my opinion... Most of my previous harvests were with organics and didn't seem to need any flushing.
You may not enjoy flushing yours, but it is by far not the "most retarded idea ever." We each have our own way of growing the herb. If you can go without a flush and not taste the nutes after the chop, more power to you. Grow for that extra bit of weight, but I know I can taste the difference and for me flushing is worthwhile... Saying it's the most retarded is just ignorant IMO...
Still wondering if DWC growers pH their water when flushing....????
Cheers,
FB
You may not enjoy flushing yours, but it is by far not the "most retarded idea ever." We each have our own way of growing the herb. If you can go without a flush and not taste the nutes after the chop, more power to you. Grow for that extra bit of weight, but I know I can taste the difference and for me flushing is worthwhile... Saying it's the most retarded is just ignorant IMO...
Still wondering if DWC growers pH their water when flushing....????
Cheers,
FB
bbing
Active member
CMON guys,
What happens to a plant if you slam it with a large PH shift??
Anytime you "shock" a plant system with large fluctuations in PH, you diminish All metabolic and respiration functions as well; if you want your plant to proecess-out (flush) chemical compounds to the best of its ability; you would want all o the plants systems working at peak levels?
What happens to a plant if you slam it with a large PH shift??
Anytime you "shock" a plant system with large fluctuations in PH, you diminish All metabolic and respiration functions as well; if you want your plant to proecess-out (flush) chemical compounds to the best of its ability; you would want all o the plants systems working at peak levels?
Does anyone know about osmotic pressure?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmotic_pressure
This is just the FIRST reason that its harmfull, I could go on and on
This is, and always will be a Pepsi/Coke argument, but bio-chemically "flushing," is fucking retarded.....
People spend up to 12+ weeks sometimes trying to keep a plant as healthy and stress free as possible, then in the MOST IMPORTANT growth phase, you think its a good idea to whack it over the head when 1000% of its resources should be channeled into bud production, that IS afterall what we all like to smoke.....
The leaves change color because they are showing signs of DEFICIENCIES, we [humans] have a natural, cyclic, nostalgic attachment to "fall" and therefore equate this yellowing leaves as a natural good thing, but its the plant cannabilizing itself to keep up metabolic processes....
Outdoor plants dont turn yellow in the fall, they may acquire other natural maturation colorations, but they DONT change colors like a "flushed" plant.
The logic y'all present is that the plant is breaking down "chems" in the "plant tissue," but the only place that things [not even "chems" but...] are breaking down is in the LEAVES..... Ive never seen anyone smoke yellow leaves before, have you?
Now, if the BUDS were slowly turning yellow as well, then I could see your logic that there is less SOMETHING "gross" to be inhaled, but thats not the case, they may garner other "fall" colors from the complete maturation of the plant but this still isnt any "chemmy" degradation that you are hoping for, but natural pigmentation changes....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osmotic_pressure
This is just the FIRST reason that its harmfull, I could go on and on
This is, and always will be a Pepsi/Coke argument, but bio-chemically "flushing," is fucking retarded.....
People spend up to 12+ weeks sometimes trying to keep a plant as healthy and stress free as possible, then in the MOST IMPORTANT growth phase, you think its a good idea to whack it over the head when 1000% of its resources should be channeled into bud production, that IS afterall what we all like to smoke.....
The leaves change color because they are showing signs of DEFICIENCIES, we [humans] have a natural, cyclic, nostalgic attachment to "fall" and therefore equate this yellowing leaves as a natural good thing, but its the plant cannabilizing itself to keep up metabolic processes....
Outdoor plants dont turn yellow in the fall, they may acquire other natural maturation colorations, but they DONT change colors like a "flushed" plant.
The logic y'all present is that the plant is breaking down "chems" in the "plant tissue," but the only place that things [not even "chems" but...] are breaking down is in the LEAVES..... Ive never seen anyone smoke yellow leaves before, have you?
Now, if the BUDS were slowly turning yellow as well, then I could see your logic that there is less SOMETHING "gross" to be inhaled, but thats not the case, they may garner other "fall" colors from the complete maturation of the plant but this still isnt any "chemmy" degradation that you are hoping for, but natural pigmentation changes....
See...... It's ALWAYS "I believe"
HellaFella420- That's the point: to get the plant to 'cannibalize' those stored nutrients instead of drawing them from the soil/res. It's amazing how much is actually stored.
You really think that cutting the feeding for a few days at the end is going to affect harvest weight or yield? It doesn't. Not the slightest. I've done side by sides, all things equal but for a few days flush at the end. The difference in weight was immeasurable......the difference in taste........unbelievable.
Have you ever seen plants in the wild? The yellowing of the leaves is all part of the process of maturation. Our plants store many days worth of reserves in their leaves and all we are doing is forcing them to use it up before it dies.
If the yellowing goes beyond the fans and large leaves and into the bud, then yes, you flushed too long and starved the plant. There is a difference
You really think that cutting the feeding for a few days at the end is going to affect harvest weight or yield? It doesn't. Not the slightest. I've done side by sides, all things equal but for a few days flush at the end. The difference in weight was immeasurable......the difference in taste........unbelievable.
Have you ever seen plants in the wild? The yellowing of the leaves is all part of the process of maturation. Our plants store many days worth of reserves in their leaves and all we are doing is forcing them to use it up before it dies.
If the yellowing goes beyond the fans and large leaves and into the bud, then yes, you flushed too long and starved the plant. There is a difference
K+ (K++ if I could, because I was too lazy to type out a proper response).
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NOYB
Virtually every time I've had GH grown stuff, and yes I've used that stuff fairly extensively, there's a distinct.
I've grown organic in soil with dry ammendments and a few mild teas, not bottle fed, and had to harvest some stuff very green and my my buddy said don't worry. Sure enough was sweet and smooth...much better than salt grown stuff I flushed. Problem with organics peeps have some times is they use a lot of bottled humic and fulvic acids, especially later in flower, and can screw the flavors up with orgnaics.
EmeraldHaze
Member
Just echoing everyone else: I flushed about 3 days before chop on my first grow but did a full 1-week clean water flush my second...
The difference in taste was astronomical.
The difference in taste was astronomical.
Or 'I heard'.....
I agree with you on the flushing, its a myth. If there are already chemicals in the bud (which there are not) then what exactly does giving them only water for 7 days do? Its not like a radiator where you can open the bottom and rinse water through, water will evaporate off of the leaves and buds and still leave everything else behind, you are not 'rinsing' the buds with water, you are only starving the plant in the last week or two of bud production.
I think in order for any discussion of this nature to be even potentially useful to other people, people should chime in with their curing process *AND* their flushing process.
Seems like a lot of the people who are advocating NOT FLUSHING are also advocating a good month+ long cure. Most of the people who are advocates of FLUSHING are just saying "I flushed this one and it was WAYYY better than the one I ddin't flush." But they don't mention how they dried it, whether or not they cured it, etc.
I have two questions I want an answer for:
#1 Has anyone here done a side-by-side comparison between two clones of the same plant wherein one plant gets flushed (details please) and the other doesn't and then they both got dried and cured the exact same way?
#2 If you are planning to reveg or regen (same thing, different way of saying it) your plants, would flushing be a really bad idea? It seems to me that if I don't want my plant to die, taking all of its nutes away for a week or more might be way too stressful if I don't want the plant to die at harvest.
Love to hear some thoughts. Harvest is two or three weeks away.
Seems like a lot of the people who are advocating NOT FLUSHING are also advocating a good month+ long cure. Most of the people who are advocates of FLUSHING are just saying "I flushed this one and it was WAYYY better than the one I ddin't flush." But they don't mention how they dried it, whether or not they cured it, etc.
I have two questions I want an answer for:
#1 Has anyone here done a side-by-side comparison between two clones of the same plant wherein one plant gets flushed (details please) and the other doesn't and then they both got dried and cured the exact same way?
#2 If you are planning to reveg or regen (same thing, different way of saying it) your plants, would flushing be a really bad idea? It seems to me that if I don't want my plant to die, taking all of its nutes away for a week or more might be way too stressful if I don't want the plant to die at harvest.
Love to hear some thoughts. Harvest is two or three weeks away.
