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PA; Those with knowledge; here's a theoretical situation

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KMK0420

So, I live in PA. I am taking a big risk doing what i do with the plant (from seed to pipe), but just for my own preparedness, in case of a serious malfunction of life i get busted (which is practically impossible as nobody knows about it, no visible signs outside, and i'm well known on my street to be a "good kid" who always helped around the neighborhood. if people asked my neighbors, they would say "oh i know ****. he's a good guy known him since he was a kid"...so nebnoses i'm not too concerned about. BUT.

if somehow, the two people who know about it ran their mouth (which, i know they wouldn't do. i've treated them great, they've treated me great, and i've known both for awhile. the one is my drop ship, where i send seeds, pipes, etc. she doesn't care as she has nothing to hide and knows she can't get in trouble for getting a package in the mail. Anyway, heres the situation.

Say the word gets out, and LEO is notified in SOME fashion. They would obviously need a warrant; and that's practically impossible to get as my house meets all regulatory codes, never had police called to the house in 10 years (one time when i was a angry, angry young kid)...nothing that sticks out. Let's say they GET the warrant.

I know i put myself in a bad situation doing this, but i have 2 legal weapons in my home (Shotgun for hunting, pistol for protection)...with 11 plants. I know when i cut the males i'll be below 10 (which i know is a marker in the judicial system when it comes to severity of the jail time, etc.)

Lets say i was busted with 11 plants, and 2 weapons.

First time offender, state of PA.

With a GOOD lawyer, what am i honestly looking at as far as time/fines? I know it varies a lot, but i need to prepare for the worst, and hope for the best. Show me the worse case, and best case.

NORML info:

Possession of 30 grams or less of marijuana is a misdemeanor, punishable by up to 30 days in jail and a fine of up to $500. The penalties for possession of greater than 30 grams increase to a possible one year in prison and a fine up to $5,000.

Delivery for no remuneration of 30 grams or less of marijuana is treated as possession with a possible penalty of 30 days in jail and a fine up to $500. Cultivation, delivery or sale of 1,000 pounds or less is punishable by up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $15,000. For amounts greater than 1,000 pounds, the penalty increases to a possible 10 years in prison and a fine up to $100,000. The court is authorized to increase the fines beyond the maximum to exhaust the proceeds of the crime. Sale or distribution to a minor by a person over the age of 21 doubles the possible penalties.

Delivery of marijuana within 1,000 ft of a school or within 250 ft. of recreational playground is punishable by 2-4 years in prison.

Possession or sale of paraphernalia is punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine up to $2,500, unless the sale was to a minor, in which case the possible penalties double.

For first offenders, the court may grant probation without verdict.

Any second or subsequent drug conviction increases the possible penalties to twice those for first time offenders.


[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]*MMS 2 to 10lbs or 10 to21 plants 1 year; $5,000 (double if subsequent offense)
*MMS 10 to 50 lbs or 21to 51 plants 3 years, $15000 (if subsequent offense, 4 years, $30,000)
Possible probation for first offense.
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the_man

Member
really depends on ware you at in pa it varies big time

1. you better lose the guns

2. 9 plants not 11

read all the cases here

http://www.aopc.org/Links/Public/

2 to 4 if no record and better hope there is no church or school nearby another 2 to 4

oh and you better hope she can hold her own that is a big mistake right there
 
B

Blue Dot

but just for my own preparedness, in case of a serious malfunction of life i get busted (which is practically impossible as nobody knows about it,.....

if somehow, the two people who know about it ran their mouth...

lol
 
K

KMK0420

buddy, think about it. i can right now with MY credit card order, say, X product, which is illegal.

i can have it sent to X address.

that does NOT prove resident at X address is involved in any crime; they must link the buyer/receiver, and cant say "you got this in the mail, arrested"...

if thats true, does that make the law makers who received anthrax in the mail criminals?
 
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KMK0420

2nd reply..

i am UNABLE to grow without at least 2 people knowing. the reason being? one grows himself and the other is my drop ship. both people who know about my grow have something to lose if they rat;

the one who grows and knows has a friend, and they were both busted with a lot of weed years back. cops tried to turn both people, and they said nothing until they got a lawyer, and because nobody said anything, a good majority of the charges brought against them were dropped.

they may be living with me once my current lease runs out with current roommates...i trust them. i've smoked with them, seen their grow...etc.

either way, i have a plan setup incase i feel a bust is imminent; guns and plants immediately removed by friend A. thats IF i know its coming...otherwise...i am effed in the A. literally
 

pthway4

Member
KMK- You were Effed Up the A when you chose PA!!!!!LOL

I too am in the draconian commonwealth...I been tied up in the system years ago...not fun no matter what the result of LEO bustin the door in. PA Sucks and has no real Blind justice....Wilkes-barre judges, Rep. Druce 2-4 for running a guy over, President judge of Northland county- DUI manslaughter, charges went away ( I actually spoke with the deceased brother)...etc...and so on and so on....The best thing to do is Dont tell anyone!!!! When it comes to an individual losing their freedom it don't matter how many bowls you packed sometimes ppl just don't want to go to jail!!!! Effing RATS!
 
K

KMK0420

my entire family practically is here, which is why...

i would love to relocate if i had the financial backing. never gonna happen at this rate!
 

pthway4

Member
my entire family practically is here, which is why...

i would love to relocate if i had the financial backing. never gonna happen at this rate!
KMK- I understand....family keeps us here as well. Just be safe...I have personal experience in 6 Pa state prisons and none are fun...We need medicinal laws...We have a cat around here who organizes a lot of medicinal stuff..
 
K

KMK0420

as of right now, HB1393 is sitting in the HHS committee, and posted in the sticky...a republican is trying to avoid having the bill even hit the floor. we're screwed from what i see so far...unless massive amounts of people contact their representatives over the phone or in person, there will be no difference.
 

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