Hi from near Tampa

[socbutter]

I posted on the forums before introducing myself such was my eagerness.

I started smoking weed in high school during the late sixties when an ounces cost $20. And off and on during college then off until my mid 30's. When I rediscovered the pleasures and medicinal benefits.

I've always wanted to grow my own, but not until the last few years has there been a wealth of information on indoor stealth growing.

Well I discovered the various clubs on this forum and have decided to try grow myself.

First baby steps ( 1 Fem Lowryder#2) trying to get the hands on experience to then try 4 to 6 plants to provide me the meds.

Thank you everyone for the decimation of your knowledge.

I love this place....


You can check my photo album.

 

[C3RTIFI3D]

W3LCOM3 TO THE FORUMS!

 

[kushism]

Welcome!! Looks like you are off to a good start.. Album looks real good!! will watch with interest!!

 

[C3RTIFI3D]

yeah i was just looking at that A+ looks good

 

[socbutter]

Thanks for welcome, but my babies are not doing so good.

Too much heat in my small cab. I have a portable air conditioner on order. Hope they survive until it arrives.

 

[kushism]

ouch, i also hope they will survive.. heat is a nasty thing in small enclosed spaces.. what type and cfm rating is the exaust fan you are using? is it exhausting from the top of the cab?

Good Luck

 

[socbutter]

Exhaust FAn is 172 CFM

Exhaust FAn is 172 CFM

ouch, i also hope they will survive.. heat is a nasty thing in small enclosed spaces.. what type and cfm rating is the exaust fan you are using? is it exhausting from the top of the cab?

Good Luck

My exhaust fan has a rating of 172 CFM, but I tend to lower the fan speed to medium at night due to loudness. I have yet to build a muffler for the exhaust fan. Its on my to do list.

I am switching my grow media from the WATERFARM to FoxFarm Organic Soil mixture. I am not experience enough to use the Waterfarm, maybe later when I develop clones. Just not right for seedlings.

These LOWRYDER#2 seeds are going in soil this afternoon! Won't have to worry about feeding, just watering with RO water bought from PUBLIX supermarket.

 

[kushism]

nice!! the ac should help immensely then.. I know it may be noisy at night, but the loss of cfm by "throttling" down the fan may be causing that heat build up.. Just a guess, but maybe slowing the fan is causing enough if a heat buildup, that when the fan resumes at full speed it is just too muc heat to handle.. again just a guess.. in looking at your pics, i am curious of a few things.. What are you using for an intake?? Do you have that cool tube vented outside the cabinet? or is the hot air from it being exhausted into the cab?

In My Opinion i would ditch the 120mm fan on the cool tube and hook the cool tube up to the same fan running your filter.. draw all the heat produced by the hid lamp out of the cab as soon as it's created. In my opinion, and it's just an opinion, i would move the carbon filter to the outside of the cabinet, so the fan is exhausting through it.. Move the cool tube up and connect it to the existing ducting from the carbon filter.. that would give you a few more inches of budroom, it would allow that bigger fan to exhaust all heat from the light and filter the air.. it would do wonders to decrease the heat in there dramatically. just something to think about, but it will really do wonders to keep your cab cooler..

I understand loudness is an issue, but how much longer till that ac gets there?? if it's not going to be long, would keeping the fan running at full cfm all night cause a big disturbance? Just a suggestion..

Fox Farms with r/o water is a great idea, seen many great grows using that combo, just make sure to amend the soil before flowering

 

[socbutter]

I know it may be noisy at night, but the loss of cfm by "throttling" down the fan may be causing that heat build up.. Just a guess, but maybe slowing the fan is causing enough if a heat buildup, that when the fan resumes at full speed it is just too muc heat to handle.. again just a guess..

That's exactly what's happening.

is the hot air from it being exhausted into the cab?

yes

In My Opinion i would ditch the 120mm fan on the cool tube and hook the cool tube up to the same fan running your filter.. draw all the heat produced by the hid lamp out of the cab as soon as it's created. In my opinion, and it's just an opinion, i would move the carbon filter to the outside of the cabinet, so the fan is exhausting through it.. Move the cool tube up and connect it to the existing ducting from the carbon filter.. that would give you a few more inches of budroom, it would allow that bigger fan to exhaust all heat from the light and filter the air.. it would do wonders to decrease the heat in there dramatically. just something to think about, but it will really do wonders to keep your cab cooler..

So, fix Cooltube to ceiling, connect to exhaust fan outside of cab then connect fan to carbo filter outside of cab?

Cooltube==>Fan==>Carbon Filter ???

Is that Right??

I

understand loudness is an issue, but how much longer till that ac gets there??

June 23rd

Fox Farms with r/o water is a great idea, seen many great grows using that combo, just make sure to amend the soil before flowering

I have the three part GH (Micro, Grow and Flower) that came with Waterfarm and Flora Nova Bloom and Great White.

What do you recommend? The Lowryder#2 are auto-flowering 8-9 weeks to harvest from seed.

I was think of amending with low (2 tsp/gal....900ppm) concentration of Flora Nova Bloom.

From the bottle:


1/2 tsp/ gal 275ppm seedling

1 tsp/ gal 450ppm early growth

2 tsp/gal 900ppm later growth

3 tsp/gal 1300ppm rapidly growing plants



Thank you!

 

[belfast]

Welcome socbutter ICmag.com.
Tampa the last time I was there was August of 1993.

I would try
Northern Lights from Sensi Seeds
Easy to grow and low odour until late in flowering and easy to clone. it worked on my first attempt.
http://www.icmag.com/strains/Sensi_Seeds/Northern_Lights/index.html


Peace
Belfast

 

[socbutter]

http://www.icmag.com/modules/Journal/viewentry.php?journalid=79

My Journal

 

[ljjr]

welcome to icmag, 813 here

 

[kushism]

Hey bud, you got it exactly right.. cooltube ==>fan ==>filter, that way all the heat being created by the cooltube is exhausted out of the cab through your fan then filtered.. that way all the air escaping your cabinet is filtered for no odor worries.. That setup up right there should cool the cab down a lot.. it will help out big time until the ac gets there, then the ac unit will make it to where you can turn the fan down at night with no worries of heat build-up..

let me know if you are going to change it around, and i don't know if you have one, but maybe invest in an inexpensive digital thermometer so you can actually monitor and track the temperature changes..

As for amendments, i would use the bloom and micro, you should be real good with ppms between 800-1000.

You are very welcome, the pleasure is all mine

 

[socbutter]

belfast,

I would try
Northern Lights from Sensi Seeds
Easy to grow and low odour until late in flowering and easy to clone. it worked on my first attempt.

Tell me more, when did you start flowering the NL and how tall did it get? The spec says 100-120 cm, my cab's interior height is 48" (120cm).

Also I was thinking of trying out a BLUEBERRy. Man I want to try everything! LOL

 

[socbutter]

Just wondering your opinion would be appreciated.

Just wondering your opinion would be appreciated.

Hey bud, you got it exactly right.. cooltube ==>fan ==>filter, that way all the heat being created by the cooltube is exhausted out of the cab through your fan then filtered.. that way all the air escaping your cabinet is filtered for no odor worries.. That setup up right there should cool the cab down a lot.. it will help out big time until the ac gets there, then the ac unit will make it to where you can turn the fan down at night with no worries of heat build-up..

let me know if you are going to change it around, and i don't know if you have one, but maybe invest in an inexpensive digital thermometer so you can actually monitor and track the temperature changes..

As for amendments, i would use the bloom and micro, you should be real good with ppms between 800-1000.

You are very welcome, the pleasure is all mine

You got me thinking.

Since the filter was design to suck air rather the blowing what do you think of this configuration:

Carbon filter(inside cab)==>Fan (outside of cab)==>CoolTube (fixed to ceiling of cab)==>exhaust to air condition room.

 

[whiskeytango420]

Greets from south FL!

Kushism, careful of false info homie!
Carbon can scrubbers are best for intake, not exhaust.
I run 8 cool tubes, 2 inline rows of 4. You definitely wanna exhaust the cool tube air OUTSIDE the grow room. I even intake from outside the room too. The air from the cool tubes and the air in the grow are separate entities, ya dig?
There is no need to scrub the air in the cool tubes if it is not coming from the grow.
AND keep the carbon scrubber IN the grow, kinda defeats the purpose of filtering smell if its not in there?
Also, if you get the portable AC, the collection tank is RO water...no need to buy it anymore..But make sure you monitor cal-mag issues and PH.
Any more questions, ask away! And keep your head down, they are gunnin for us here in FL!
good vibes

 

[kushism]

look at my albums, you will notice i have my carbon filter set-up that way... i have my filter set up as an exhaust, outside of my room... i am growing 35 plants, and trust me, there is no odor what so ever outside of my room. so i know that my filter is working well in this configuration.. of course it is your choice on how to set it up, i was just trying to offer a suggestion that would vent all the hot air created by the cooltube actually out of your room as fast as it's created.. you want your ac as an intake, blowing cold air into your cab.. you want your exhaust to be all the smelly, humid, hot air..

again i was just offering a suggestion... my room is 10x6 and with this same setup.. ac as intake, lights==>fan==>filter = cool room(never above 75), and smell free air...

 

[kushism]

false info homie, wtf are you getting your info... my can 50 had seperate cfm rating for intake, exhaust, and scrubbing.. so take your false info and shove it... if the filters weren't designed for exhaust and scrubbing, why are there those measurements???????


false info bro, sorry i was just trying to help... and if they are intake only how come mine works so well as an exhaust, along with many others growers who have the same setup... get off your hi horse homie... and realize i was trying to offer assistance..... funny how just because you are setup that way it's the only way and all other info is false... DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH ON CAN FILTERS AND LOOK AT THE 3 CFM RATINGS ON IT..... THEY WORK FINE AS EXHAUST IF YOU HAVE A MORE CFM'S EXHAUSTING THAN INTAKE.. IE YOU HAVE MAJOR SUCTION IN YOUR ROOM, AND ARE CONFIDENT ALL EXHAUSTE AIR IS BEING FILTERED..... SERIOUSLY DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH OF YOUR OWN, AND REALIZE THAT CAN FILTERS WERE MADE TO BE USED IN SEVERAL WAYS... FUNNY HOW IT WORKS SO WELL FOR ME, THAT AT 5 1/2 WEEKS INTO FLOWER THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SMELL OUTSIDE MY ROOM, AND THATIS BEING VERIFIED BY A NON POT SMOKER WITH A VERY SENSITIVE NOSE.. FUNNY HOW THIS THREAD HAS GENERATED SO MANY VIEWS, AND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WITH AN ISSUE... YOU BASICALLY REPEAT THE SAME ADVICE I HAVE GIVEN ABOUT VENTING THE HOT AIR OUT OF THE ROOM.. WOW SO SMART BUDDY..

SO SAY WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT "HOMIE" I KNOW WHAT WORKS FOR ME AND OTHERS IN MY CIRCLE... AND WAS OFFERING SIMILAR ADVICE

socbutter the choice is yours.. good luck.. i am giving you advice that is proven and works for me..

 

[whiskeytango420]

Hi from near Tampa 06-20-2009 02:15 PM kushism GET OFF YOUR HI HORSE, DO SOME RESEARCH.. CAN FILTERS WORKS IN MULTIPLE WAYS


niiiiiiiiiice. negative rep.... a lil red dot aint gonna hurt my feelings man.




anyhoo...I was referring to what I thought would be better for HIS set up. But your right, lol...You know more than me, I am so silly and humbled now. Should've never opened my rookie mouth...

35 plants? I run over 300...quit dick swinging dude. Your getting awful defensive over some stupid shit.
Why dont YOU do some research on here? I dont gotta look up, explain, or do shit...Im PROVEN to know what the fuck I am talkin about.

Sorry for the thread-jack socbutter. Hella welcome to the site!...lol By ALL MEANS...take everyones advice and see what works best for you. Just because I have been here doing shit for a while dont mean my word is the end all. NEVER listen to just one person, what works for some, may not for others.
good vibes

 

[kushism]

lmao you fail.. wow 300, you are so cool, and you must just be the weed master.. get over yourself.. Better for his setup.. his setup is tiny, so what works for you and your 300 plants will probably not work for him and his tiny cab.. and proven to yourself you jackass.. yeah i get defensive when i am told the info i am providing is wrong, when it works great for me and others..... your experience in "huge" super grows is nice, but is it really pertinent to a micro cab? is the fact the filter is an exhaust or intake really that huge of an issue inside a micro cab?? no probably not as it's not got to handle the odor from 300 plants.... it's called common sense.. what, the fact i am not only trying to solve the guys heat issue, but also help him him make better use of his room.. Constructive criticism rather than telling someone their info is false.. Common sense in realizing that your huge grow experience is a tad bit different than micro cabs... your advice would work if socbutter had his cooltube hooked to an external intake outside the cab. like you probably have your cooltubes set up.. but i was looking at the pics of his cab, and offering the easiest advice to cool his room and make better use of his space..

and like i care about rep??? dude the purpose of this site is to educate, and help others.. not act like your experience and knowledge is the end all.. he had an issue, and i reached out to help, and offer advice that works for me and others, and you jump on the fact it's false cause it's not how you have yours set up... at least i tried to offer constructive advice quickly to help socbutter deal with his heat issue's.. had he waited for your post, chances are his plants would be worse off.. your words are true.. what works for you will not always work for others.. did i offer my advice as an end all solution?? nope, just somethig he could change quickly, with minimal cost to improve the cooling solution of his room.. but yeah i know nothing about cooling, as so-cal doesn;t get very hot....