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Hammerhead

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I believe this is the card I want to get? It is issued by the DHS.



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Hammerhead

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All you Cali 215 people please let me know if this is the correct card for me to get. I have herd that Canna cards are worthless
 
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IE2KS_KUSH

That card issued by the state is worthless, not required by law. It is voluntary. You need a written or oral Dr. recommendation, they usually give you a paper, and a smaller card version. That is what is required by law, not the state i.d.
But if you wanna go and volunteer your personal contact info and address to the state and tell them that you are using cannabis and may grow it, be my guest. I would not suggest it. If I am wrong I am sure others will chime in, but I am not. Good luck.
 

quadracer

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The state issued ID card is considered the gold standard.

It is completely voluntary. What qualifies you as a patient is that you have a recommendation from your doctor, not whether or not you have a card.

J. Law Enforcement

No qualified patient or designated primary caregiver in possession of a valid physician's recommendation shall be subject to arrest for possession, transportation, delivery, or cultivation of medical marijuana in an amount established pursuant to this article, unless there is reasonable cause to believe that the information contained in their recommendation or ID card is false or falsified, the documentation has been obtained by means of fraud, or the person is otherwise in violation of the provisions of this article. As discussed above it is not necessary for a person to obtain an identification card in order to claim the protections of Section 11362.5.

While SB 420 helped to clarify the CUA and was meant to enforce protection of patients and caregivers from arrest and prosecution, it said nothing about medicine seizure, and unfortunately led way to a split decision in People v. Mower (2003). The Mower decision on its face looks good in that it reinforced patients' apparent protection from arrest and prosecution. However, the California Supreme Court ruled in Mower that with "probable cause" police officers could search, seize and arrest patients even after being provided valid documentation. ASA is attempting to clarify "probable cause" through proactive litigation against the state.

Additionally, under Cal. H & S 11362.78; "A state or local law enforcement agency or officer shall not refuse to accept an identification card issued by the Department unless the state or local law enforcement agency or officer has reasonable cause to believe that the information contained in the card is false or fraudulent, or the card is being used fraudulently."

A person found to have fraudulently obtained access to medical marijuana will be subject to the following penalties:

1. For the first offense, imprisonment in the county jail for no more than six months or a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or both; and
2. For a second or subsequent offense, imprisonment in the county jail for no more than one year, or a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or both.

In addition to the penalties described above, any person may be precluded from attempting to obtain, or obtaining or using, an identification card for a period of up to six months at the discretion of the court.

http://www.safeaccessnow.org/article.php?id=956#cert
 

Hammerhead

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I already have the recommendation. I live in Oregon we have the same Program it's not voluntary here. We have to give our grow address and any other info they require. Im not concerned about them knowing my info. They already have it here in Oregon. Im moving to Ca in a week and this card looks like mine except no picture on it.


I think kush has it backwards the canna cards are worthless from what I read
 
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IE2KS_KUSH

I believe you will need to start all over from scratch. Have a CA doctor issue the rec once you get here and have a valid state i.d.
Then, that's it. No requirement to participate in the state/county i.d. programs here. You know what edit that! IDK, your rec may be fine that you already have. I don't know?
 

Hammerhead

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I have contacted the DHS. I asked them if my OMMP card can be exchanged for there MMP card if not it's not a big deal I have all my medical records and can get a new Rec if needed. I just dont want a card that is worthless. This is the first time someone said the state issued cards are worthless.
 
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IE2KS_KUSH

Oh, well yeah, the county/state id cards IMO are worthless. BUt they are supposed to serve you well in the event you have a run in w/ LEO. Supposed to give you no trouble if you have it, that was the idea, don't know if it works. I have had run ins and rec only, no problem. You should start a poll and see what all these CA folks think.
 

Hammerhead

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Thanks for the info I have read enough on it and like said above these are the gold cards not needed but the best that is offered. I will ask around when I get there.
 
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Greyskull

everyone i know in Ukiah that got the state card got a visit form the sheriff...
if they were over the state issued plant count limit, the sheriff and his friends removed the "uneccesary" plants from the property. this was last year. ..

i would think long and hard about listing yourself on a goverment list that says "I USE MARIJUANA AND POSSIBLY GROW"
no thanks....
 

FreedomFGHTR

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everyone i know in Ukiah that got the state card got a visit form the sheriff...
if they were over the state issued plant count limit, the sheriff and his friends removed the "uneccesary" plants from the property. this was last year. ..

i would think long and hard about listing yourself on a goverment list that says "I USE MARIJUANA AND POSSIBLY GROW"
no thanks....

The card itself if you are just a patient and don't want to worry about confiscation of your meds or arrest then getting the dhs card is worth it. However if you are growing I suggest getting your dhs card through San Francisco county since their data collecting information shields patients personal info from being used by LEO hitlists.

The card itself is just considered legit proof that you have a doctors reccomendation. But in reality it's the doctors reccomendation that matters. The card programs in California are voluntary. They have their advantages but their risks as well.

Funny that I don't have a dhs card, but I have a sellers permit. Welcome to California!
 

Hammerhead

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I just got a email from the DHS that says

This is a automated response to your inquiry. As we have had to make reductions in our workforce this email account is not monitored. If you are interested in the CMM card please visit your local DHS office. lol What a fup program.
 

Shangri-la

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I have a state card, issued through my county of residence. My understanding is as follows...A doctors note can get your stuff back AFTER it's been taken and you prove the validity of the DR. note. A state card (which means that the state has already confirmed your Dr. note) can be verified by LEO's on-site and avoid any confiscation and all that goes with it.
That is my understanding. That is why I registered my Dr. note with my county.
I'd rather prove my legality prior to any confrontations not during or after.
Personally, I feel less paranoid being registered with the state. I'm in complete compliance with the law as it has been legislated by the CA. State congress and outlined by the Ca. Attorney General.
I also feel that registering with the state further demonstrates and confirms ones intention to conform within the rules and boundaries that have been established. While it may not be required, I think a LEO would feel much more comfortable once you show the state issued card vs. some non-official (unverified) document or card.
This is all imo only.
Abiding,
Shangrila
 

Hammerhead

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I agree^^ I have read that many county's are going to this kind of card. I also herd they are looking at Oregon as a Model. This is not FACT guy/gals just what I have herd
 
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