BLACK HISTORY NEWS PERSPECTIVE: The Racist Tradition of The War On Drugs

[ddrew]

Thats alot of arrogance coming from a Norse God. Dont do crack. You sound like Jesse J preachin. Stop it and listen to yourself. Its your own fault if the gov makes drugs and drug laws that purposely target Blacks and flood their neighborhoods with the only real money making tool that they have access to. quote]

You make yourself out to be a bunch of low achievers when you say stuff like " the only money making tool we have access to"
The only tool that Lazy inner city people have access too perhaps is a better way to put it.

What stops you from working hard in school and applying for Academic scholarships?
Or working a part time job, saving a few dollars, applying for student loans, and facilitating your own way to college?

Think about recent immigrants, many black, talk about disadvantaged, these people don't speak English well, they don't know the country or culture, and often times are treated poorly, but still, they bust their ass, work multiple jobs, go to school, and basically make something of themselves, why do they do different then many minorities that have been here for generations?
Because they know what it's really like to be from somewhere with no opportunity, where just finding food to eat on a day to day basis is a struggle, they know that there destiny is in there hands, so they create the lives they want for themselves despite the many challenges they encounter here.

 

[Rainman]

DD - Again with the arrogance of a person who obviously has never struggled like what i am describing. I am educated, a Veteran, worked my whole life, etc.. That being said it is nonsensical to beleive that if you only work hard in America you can make it. That just isnt true and you know that. You make it seem like Blacks are happy being in the situation described. Think about it! Every aspect of American life as been designed to keep Blacks in their place! From Healthcare as a baby, to Education, to jobs, buying homes, getting loans, school testing, the prison system, getting a job, even driving a car! Thats corruption im talking about is in every aspect of "American society" and its so pervasive you dont notice it or pay attention to it, or just dont care if its not you!! So all your keep hope alive and work hard all day spill is almost offensive. Why dont you be like these immagrants or these people? You speak about Blacks like a White person from the Burbs who has never been to a Black neighborhood or had little Black contact(just guessing). You really think that Blacks want to be in this position in our society? Of course there will always be a few who make it but what about the millions who languish in a corrupt system designed at all levels to make you fail? You may be educated but on this subject you are so lost.

 

[ddrew]

DD - Again with the arrogance of a person who obviously has never struggled like what i am describing. I am educated, a Veteran, worked my whole life, etc.. That being said it is nonsensical to beleive that if you only work hard in America you can make it. That just isnt true and you know that. You make it seem like Blacks are happy being in the situation described. Think about it! Every aspect of American life as been designed to keep Blacks in their place! From Healthcare as a baby, to Education, to jobs, buying homes, getting loans, school testing, the prison system, getting a job, even driving a car! Thats corruption im talking about is in every aspect of "American society" and its so pervasive you dont notice it or pay attention to it, or just dont care if its not you!! So all your keep hope alive and work hard all day spill is almost offensive. Why dont you be like these immagrants or these people? You speak about Blacks like a White person from the Burbs who has never been to a Black neighborhood or had little Black contact(just guessing). You really think that Blacks want to be in this position in our society? Of course there will always be a few who make it but what about the millions who languish in a corrupt system designed at all levels to make you fail? You may be educated but on this subject you are so lost.

So your saying that the cards are so stacked against you(blacks) why should you even try?
Just lay back and do nothing but bitch about how bad you've got it?
I don't agree that things have been made so hard for you, what about all the whites guys getting screwed out of jobs and promotions they earned fair and square due to affirmative action requiring that the position go to a black person, that to me is racist.

And even if things may be a bit harder in your opinion, that just means you have to work a bit harder at it to succeed.

 

[prelude91sir]

For one I am not a minority. if you truely want to go by population fuck what the census say. There as been and always will be more blacks/africans populations wise whether there under the label like hispanics ext. The only time i see more whites then blacks is in some lil small country towns but it goes both ways. there is small country towns that our majority black. Within law we need to define what a minority or minor is. When the so called government keeps on calling us minorities/minors what they are saying is that we are incompetent to handle our own affairs. We are minors/a minority.
this thing really gets deep. cause at law black and white dont even deal with skin color, but your social class/ status. When any person from middle east come over here and apply for citizen ship they are given the status of white. Dont believe me?

http://www.cnn.com/US/9707/16/racial.suit/index.html

 

[Rainman]

DD -You just proved my point exactly! And you just dont get this at all! Even tho every aspect of our society is designed to subjegate us, we should shake it off and keep on keepin on? You feel like affirmative action is reverse discrimination(like most white men) but who has benefited the most from AA since its inception? Its not Blacks but actually White women. Surprise! Also do you really think Blacks would have even gotten an interveiw with the White guys you speak of, if it weren't for AA? If left to their own devices most White men would hire other White men! Period! You see AA was set up to help everyone but the people who have been in power from the start, White males. And in our country White women have made more inroads based on AA than any other group. Earned fair and square huh? That never happens my friend. It can be fair and square when you share common ancestry, culture, beliefs,and attitudes with people and population that dominates your society and the decision making. You see being White in our country affords White men a level of complete domination/control on every level. For 200 years white males ran all aspects of our country much to the harm of Blacks and minorites in general, and now just like that you want to tell me everything is square and my people dont have any lasting effects of what has gone on all this time?.... you just dont get it and hopefully you dont have to. But please dont tell me or my people to shake it off! Now with all that being said me and my people are the strongest and most tenatious group on the planet and we will get ours! May not be legal or government approved but we will get it anyway!

Prelude - Blacks and Latinos are 2 totally seperate racial groups and although some share common ancestry most would not consider themselves Blacks. I do believe that the census is not 100% accurate but it does offer the best indicator for such a large society as to what the population is close to.

Peace fellas!

 

[randude101]

I am no expert, but I do detect a little racism in here

 

[ddrew]

DD -You just proved my point exactly! And you just dont get it at all! Even tho every aspect of our society is designed to subjegate us, we should shake it off and keep on keepin on? You feel like affirmative action is reverse discrimination(like most white men) but who has benefited the most from AA since its inception? Its not Blacks but actually White women. Surprise! Also do you really think Blacks would have even gotten an interveiw with the White guys if it weren't for AA? If left to their own devices most White men would hire other White men! Period! You see AA was set up to help everyone but the people who have been in power from the start, White males. And in our country White women have made more inroads based on AA than any other group. Earned fair and square huh? That never happens my friend. It can be fair and square when you share common ancestry, culture, beliefs,and attitudes with people the population that dominates your society and the decision making. You see being White in our country affords White men a level of complete domination/control on every level. For 200 years white males ran all aspects of our country much to the harm of Blacks and minorities in general, and now just like that you want to tell me everything is square and my people don't have any lasting effects of what has gone on all this time?.... you just don't get it and obviously you don't have to. But please dont tell me or my people to shake it off!

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Rain, your right, a lot of unfair shit over the years has been done to the African American community, but if you can't ever get past it, then you will be stuck where you are now forever, so yes, as you say, shake it off, move on with your lives, and start making some positive changes in your community, you know "whitey" is not going to do it for you.
Have you ever thought of volunteering at your local community center?
Or getting involved with the big brothers organization?
Intelligent, positive role models like yourself can be the start of change in your community.
The whole point of my argument is that no one is going to do anything significant for you, whether you feel you have it coming for centuries of injustice towards African Americans or not, you will have to make the changes you want yourself, so stop talking about how you think it should be and start working towards it on a local level in your own community.

And yes Women have also benefited from AA as well.
I have many successful friends that I went to college with that come from diverse racial and economic backgrounds, but they made it, they set goals for themselves, busted there asses, and achieved them, just like anyone can despite what you think to the contrary.

 

[randude101]

Can't we all just get along?

 

[ddrew]

Can't we all just get along?

If we could all get past the color of our skin, and judge each other on our own individual merit, then yes, maybe we could

 

[Weedman Herb]

The CIA didn't Invent crack or cook the first freebase (what it was called before someone gave it a "cool" name) so kick that out of your head ... They just made the cocaine to be cooked or ether washed more available ...

 

[kmk420kali]

Now with all that being said me and my people are the strongest and most tenatious group on the planet and we will get ours! May not be legal or government approved but we will get it anyway!

You do realize that that could have came from a KKK meeting also....right??
Think about it Homie...you can't end racism by being racist--
I was very racist, after years and years of the Calif Prison System...but after getting away from that lifestyle, I seen the futility and craziness of that mindset--
Nobody alive today is responsible for the atrocities that were done to the Blacks through Slavery...but we all have to deal with the after-effects-- Some want to "Keep the Hate"...they are just hateful ppl, and will always hate something-- But I truly believe "Most" ppl would rather just get on with life--
Sorry for the rant--

 

[Rainman]

Look folks lets get a few things straight before going any further. I am not racists or even pro Black! I simply understand what my people have been through and are going thru even today with a Black man as President. I am not simply gonna turn a blind eye to all that has gone down because we now have a seat at the table. I feel all people should have equal rights and oppurtunities to prosper but to simply say keep on pushing forward and ignore 200 years of oppression is simply not gonna happen. I volunteer and and would never refer to anyone as Whitey or anything like that. You cannot prosper in your future if you do not know and understand your past people. And women havent 'benefited as well'. White women have benefited the most! I love all peoples and ave all races in a family that is as multi-cultural as they come. We all benefit from unbiased and real talk about race in tis country. I am simply not afraid to be politically incorrect in stating my veiwpoints on it. Now of course that will rub some the wrong way but that is what we need! We need people to be uneasy and a little uncomfortable about the conversation! Not enuff of this going on.

RaneD - We can all get along my friend as long as 5-8 white cops arent standing over me with a batons telling me not to resist the impending ass whippin!

Weedman - My fellow North Carolinian and good ole boy! Gonna be coming thru Raliegh soon! You still itchin for a meetin with this boy? Anyways your Tangerine H looks decent but I think my Sweet Tang is a better cut. Yeah I been checkin your grows! What? You didnt think we could just verbally spar, you call me boy, and I not keep a eye on ya did ya? And yes the CIA did invent Crack and the reason you cant find any evidence of ts existence before '84 is becuase it didnt homie! You see this boy aint no uneducated drug dealin, ignorant, illegal gun owner. Thats right the guns and the weed are legal so yes we as a people are movin on up!!! Holla!

Come on Kali!!! A KKK meeting? Now aint that the pot callin me Black!!! I am not racist nor do I have racist veiws. I wish all people could see past color, religion, socio-economics and the like. Too bad most cannot.

 

[ddrew]

Good post Rain, I can see it's not going to be as easy to "keep you down" as it is the rest of the brothers, lol. kidding

 

[ddrew]

And yes the CIA did invent Crack and the reason you cant find any evidence of ts existence before '84 is becuase it didnt homie! You see this boy aint no uneducated drug dealin, ignorant, illegal gun owner. Thats right the guns and the weed are legal so yes we as a people are movin on up!!! Holla!

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Oh yeah, it was around way before 84, anyone remember Richard Pryor?

"But some of the demons at the core of Pryor's comic brilliance nearly did him in on June 9, 1980, when, at home in suburban L.A., he suffered third-degree burns over roughly half his body. Pryor, an open and unrepentant drug and alcohol user, had been burned in a cocaine-freebasing mishap."

So, it looks like Richard might have invented crack back in 1980, lol.

I don't know who invented it, but it's been around a long time

 

[randude101]

You are all the same color to me here.

 

[ddrew]

You are all the same color to me here.

Were just talking Ran, everyone here is green

 

[stc9357]

I am no expert, but I do detect a little racism in here

I detect some but I'll decline to comment. Black power lol!

 

[215 User]

Understanding is everything.....

Don't be selective on tha boards & yo whole family jocks NBA/NFL/musicians players for what they do on the weekends.

I'm just sayin keep it real

 

[Rainman]

Not that the Black guy is the expert, but Crack and Freebase are 2 totally different drugs people. Freebase is a mix of Cocaine and Heroin and Crack is another mix altogether different! Reference Master P's "Make Crack Like" this track for his specific recipe altho it is made diff. in diff areas depending on your specific needs. Just sayin.

Rich was a brilliant soul but it is weird to me how the icons of our culture always get a pass for shit like he did. Again with the double standard! How can you kill a dog and get 19 months in federal prison? But run over a man in your Bentley and get 30 days in jail!!?? I cant help it! I see this kinda skewed world we live in and really wonder sometimes if we arent all doomed.

and when you really think about, its all pink once you get past the lips.

 

[ddrew]

Not that the Black guy is the expert, but Crack and Freebase are 2 totally different drugs people. Freebase is a mix of Cocaine and Heroin and Crack is another mix altogether different! Reference Master P's "Make Crack Like" this track for his specific recipe altho it is made diff. in diff areas depending on your specific needs. Just sayin.

Nope, your thinking of speedballs-cocaine/heroin

Freebase is basically purer crack using ether, but there is no heroin in it.


"Crack cocaine is less pure than using ether to make freebase cocaine, but the procedure itself is safer than using this method.
Mix about 1 gram of coke and 10 ml of water in a small vial. Slowly add drops of ammonia to the solution. A white milky precipitate will form. Stop adding ammonia when additional drops no longer result in precipitation.
Add 5 ml of ethyl ether, close vial, and shake. The precipitate (freebase) will dissolve in the ether. Siphon off the ether with a pipette (ether and water don't mix), and slowly drip it on a plate.
As the ether evaporates, white crystals will form. This is the freebase. Crush the crystals and put under a heat lamp for at least 24 hrs to let the solvent evaporate.
ETHYL ETHER IS EXTREMELY FLAMMABLE. IN THE PRESENCE OF AIR IT CAN FORM PEROXIDES WHICH WILL SPONTANEOUSLY EXPLODE! ALSO, ETHER CAN CRAWL FROM AN OPEN BOTTLE AND TRIGGER AN EXPLOSION MANY FEET AWAY.
This is how Richard Pryor almost died. A lot of untrained people killed themselves doing that procedure, and this is why crack is now more popular."