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Marijuana And Cocaine Should Be Legalised, Says Latin

vta

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URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v09/n569/a07.html

Source: Guardian, The (UK)


MARIJUANA AND COCAINE SHOULD BE LEGALISED, SAYS LATIN AMERICAN DRUGS COMMISSION

Marijuana and cocaine for personal use should be decriminalised because the "war on drugs" has been a disaster, according to some of Latin America's most powerful politicians and writers.

The current international policy on drugs encourages corruption and violence that is threatening democracy throughout the continent, according to the former president of Brazil, Fernando Enrique Cardoso, who is a co-president of the Latin American commission on drugs and democracy. As well as politicians, the commission includes the writers Mario Vargas Llosa of Peru, and Paulo Coelho of Brazil.

The election of Barack Obama has opened up the best opportunity for decades to address the failure of the "so-called drugs war", Cardoso told the Guardian today on a visit to London. He said he was hopeful that the international community would acknowledge that the time had come for a "paradigm shift" in the debate on drugs. "The war on drugs has failed in spite of enormous efforts in places like Colombia - the area of coca crops is not reducing," he said.

The current system of prohibition encouraged corruption among police officers, politicians and even judges. "It poisons the whole system, it undermines democracy," Cardoso said. "The war on drugs is based on repression . How can people believe in democracy if the rule of law doesn't work?" Users should be offered treatment rather than jail, he said.

"The starting point has to be the United States," he said. "Now we have a new American administration, which is much more open-minded than before." He said he had held talks with the US state department in the later years of the Bush administration and found that, privately, many of the officials there shared his views.

Cardoso said that the changes would have to be co-ordinated. "We need an international convention, otherwise you will have different countries doing different things," he said. "But the climate is changing for the first time for many years. Even in the US, they recognise we are in deadlock now." Obama had already made it clear that the idea of a "war on drugs" was not workable. The need for change is urgent, said Cardoso, because of what is happening in Latin America. "There is a very grave situation in Mexico," he said. "More people are being killed there ( through the drugs war ) than in Iraq." He said that it was easier for former presidents who were no longer in office or running for election to speak out on such a controversial issue. He added that ending the war on drugs would be not be a signal that drugs were acceptable but a recognition that current policies had failed.

"You have to show that drugs are harmful, even light drugs, like marijuana - it is better not to use drugs - but tobacco is harmful also yet its use is being reduced by education," said Cardoso. He added that the vast quantities of money being used to enforce "repressive" policies on drugs could be put into treatment and education. Hundreds of thousands of people were being unnecessarily criminalised and sent to prison, "which are schools of crime."

The previous UN drugs policy that aimed to eliminate all drug use by this year was ill-conceived, he said. "You can never stop drugs use," he said, likening it to some of the failed policies in the past over HIV/Aids. "You can't have zero drugs any more than you can have a zero sex policy but you can have a safe sex policy." He said that Brazil's success in halting the HIV/Aids epidemic, which meant promoting the use of condoms in a Catholic country, was an example of how people's behaviour could be changed by education rather than repression.
 
True that, although I hate to see cocaine. Cannabis used in the same sentence :D

Illegality only contributes to the problem of gangs, violence, drug abuse, etc. People need to feel comfortable and safe when reaching out to receive treatment for addiction. Sending people to prison only teaches them how to be "better" criminals, gives people psychological issues, and generally makes them more likely to commit victim-oriented crimes later in life.

Bravo
 
Anybody that thinks coke should be legal is an idiot. It is a evil drug and not even in the same ball park as marijuana. This is going to make people stop taking this shit seriously
 
Anybody that thinks coke should be legal is an idiot. It is a evil drug and not even in the same ball park as marijuana. This is going to make people stop taking this shit seriously

No man, anybody that thinks prohibition ever works to reduce the harm of dangerous drugs like cocaine is an idiot. Cocaine is more dangerous because of prohibition. Allow it and it can be put into cola drinks or teas or chew on the leaves as some South American cultures still do centuries later at lower dosage levels than snorting it. Bring it into the "system" and liabilities and quality control will follow. That is how you make it less dangerous and harmful. Prohibition only puts it onto a black market controlled by evil violent control freaks creating more overall harm than good. Same argument applies with marijuana.

Marijuana shouldn't be legal because its less dangerous than cocaine. It should be legal because prohibition causes more violence and harm than it does anything to help. I've never done and I believe you it is an evil drug. No one has the power to eliminate it from the earth and never will, so lets find ways to reduce how evil it can be.
 

HerbGlaze

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Very well said BobbleheadJed!
I still think Cocaine isn't in the same ballpark as Marijuana but it for sure is in the ballpark of prohibition witch is an utter failure..

All I say is..
Decriminalize MARIJUANA!
 

itisme

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"Anybody that thinks coke should be legal is an idiot. It is a evil drug and not even in the same ball park as marijuana. This is going to make people stop taking this shit seriously"

Don't bash somebody until you do a little research. I can't remember the community, but I saw a report thru YAHOO that a the COMMUNITY AT LARGE - Voted to keep HEROIN DISTROBUTION CENTERS OPEN for people to purchase and do their drugs. Over a 13 year period they had this up and running and ALL THE CRIME RATES DROPPED! This same COMMUNITY AT LARGE - Voted to keep Mary Jane ILLEGAL but KEEP HEROIN LEGAL!!! ^Thats right. There reasoning was lame but they stated they didn't want everbody coming over there for WEED but they knew nobody was goving over there for herion.

Just because somebody thinks something should be LEGALIZED don't mean they think everybody should go out and do it. It just means they realize the unintended consquences due to the drug war is worse!

Here is a link. http://kdka.com/health/Swiss.heroin.program.2.876644.html This isn't the exact one I refered to but interesting read for thought.
 

itisme

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Well I guess I just restated bobblehead. MOSTLY!

I don't think that weed and cocaine are in the same ballpark but the DRUG CARTELS are even more powerful for having it ILLEGAL!!!
 
Even if thats true, thats not really much of an argument. Lots would claim the same of weed, or alcohol...

... or guns, or tobacco, or household cleaning products, or indoor growing equipment, or unhealthy foods, or "other" religions, or other races, or other political ideas, or people behaving differently from what the people with power want...

Not much of an argument is correct. An evil argument if ask many throughout human history.

Where is the victim when someone does cocaine? Who is being harmed to warrant punishing the person doing the cocaine? Punish people that haven't hurt anyone else?

If you really think it is a demon, how is prohibition working to make it less of a demon and why is that better than trying to reduce the harm by ending prohibition?
 

darkdreams

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Coke should not be legal, it is a demon.

Totally agree with you,coke shouldnt be legal,or legalised,and i wouldnt even put it in the same catagory as cannabis.

They promote that cannabis is bad over in the uk, but i much prefer it to be legalised then the coke.

Never took coke and wouldnt want to try either, although i think all drugs are addictive,all effect each of us differently.
Im kinda new to canabis and finding out more about it each day.
I enjoy reading the posts on here too.

:joint: i didnt used to smoke the draw that regularly but have since started too. i find it chills me out and i am able to wake up better once i haveing one in the morning.
 
Totally agree with you,coke shouldnt be legal,or legalised,and i wouldnt even put it in the same catagory as cannabis.

So you think locking a human being in a cage with others for a long period of time where they will most likely be raped is an appropriate punishment for an individual that decides to use cocaine once? How does that solve or help anything? You would rather control and punish human beings than help them I gather. This kind of thinking is why the world fights so many wars, including the war people that like cannabis.
 

K.J

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No man, anybody that thinks prohibition ever works to reduce the harm of dangerous drugs like cocaine is an idiot. Cocaine is more dangerous because of prohibition. Allow it and it can be put into cola drinks or teas or chew on the leaves as some South American cultures still do centuries later at lower dosage levels than snorting it. Bring it into the "system" and liabilities and quality control will follow. That is how you make it less dangerous and harmful. Prohibition only puts it onto a black market controlled by evil violent control freaks creating more overall harm than good. Same argument applies with marijuana.

Marijuana shouldn't be legal because its less dangerous than cocaine. It should be legal because prohibition causes more violence and harm than it does anything to help. I've never done and I believe you it is an evil drug. No one has the power to eliminate it from the earth and never will, so lets find ways to reduce how evil it can be.

Amen to that...good thinking my friend.
 

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