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ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Charlie Vandergaw is crazy about bears.

That's obvious in a documentary made last year by a British filmmaker at Vandergaw's remote Alaska cabin and featured in the recent Animal Planet series "Stranger Among Bears." The videos show him scratching the belly of one black bear as if it was the family dog, feeding a cookie to a large black bear sitting under a tree, and feeding dog kibble to a cub from his outstretched hand.

Vandergaw has been coexisting with bears this way for the last 20 years, and he wants to be left alone.

That is not likely to happen now that the state is using a beefed-up law to prosecute Vandergaw for feeding bears. Game officials consider feeding bears a danger to humans, especially if others duplicate the behavior.

Not everyone thinks the state needs to be going after a 70-year-old retired teacher and wrestling coach.

Even if Vandergaw ends up being killed by the bears he loves, that's the Alaska way, said John Frost, who has been friends with Vandergaw for years. He recalled that when he came to Alaska in 1973 he saw a T-shirt that said "Alaska land of the individual and other endangered species."

"Yet here we are as a state going to crush this kind, gentle little guy," Frost said.

Stiffer fines, jail time
The bears at Vandergaw's cabin about 50 miles northwest of Anchorage are more than bold, said Sean Farley, a research biologist with the Alaska Department of Fish and Game, who helped troopers serve a search warrant on Farley's cabin last year.

During the search, bears had be scared off with "cracker shots" that make a loud noise when fired.

If bears were that bold in an Anchorage park or campground, Farley said, he would recommend they be shot right away.

He also noted what happened to filmmaker Richard Terry at Vandergaw's cabin: "He got whacked and dragged across the yard by one of the bears during filming. Charlie has been nipped and slapped around."

The state last week charged Vandergaw with 20 counts of illegally feeding game — a charge that could put him in jail for a year and fine him $10,000.

The law was recently changed to include stiffer fines and jail time, and Frost says it was specifically changed to go after his friend, Vandergaw. Farley denies that Vandergaw was the motivation behind the stiffer penalties.

There was no comment from Vandergaw. No one answered the door at his Anchorage home Wednesday and he hasn't responded to messages. The state has seized the plane that he normally would use to reach the cabin, Bear Haven, which isn't accessible by road. According to charging documents, the plane was used to transport dog food to the cabin.

Vandergaw's lawyer, Kevin T. Fitzgerald, said in a statement that he found the state charges "curious as to both timing and substance." He said Vandergaw stopped feeding bears last year.

The documentary describes how Vandergaw once hunted bears but quit after an encounter with a bear 20 years ago, shortly after he retired in 1985. A black bear appeared on his yard and crawled up to him on its belly. According to the Animal Planet Web site, Vandergaw reciprocated, and the encounter started "a long-lasting love affair" with bears.

Farley said there is a psychological component to Vandergaw's behavior with the bears. "They are associating with Charlie only because of the food. That association is fulfilling some psychological need for Charlie," he said.

‘I'm not hurting anyone’
Many Alaskans think Vandergaw is just plain crazy and lucky not to be "Treadwelled," a term used by some unsympathetic Alaskans referring to Timothy Treadwell, a self-described "bear protector" who had a similarly chummy relationship with bears. He and his girlfriend were eaten by grizzlies in Katmai National Park in 2003.

On one of the videos, Vandergaw says: "I think basically what I do is my business as long as I'm not hurting anyone."

But Farley said Vandergaw was profiting from Bear Haven and had drawn two friends into his enterprise. They also were charged.

According to charging documents, Firecracker Films in London paid Vandergaw and co-defendant Carla Garrod nearly $79,000.

"Charlie hasn't just been quietly feeding them. He has been profiting from it," Farley said.

Charging documents say a search of the home of Garrod — a real estate appraiser who also owns a photo business called C&C Bear Imagery — found receipts for thousands of pounds of dog food and hundreds of pounds of cookies.

Also charged was another Vandergaw friend, Terry Cartee. Documents say Cartee delivered 2,800 pounds of dog food to Vandergaw.

"It is unfortunate that the state of Alaska has taken this action now after turning a blind eye toward Mr. Vandergaw and his activities in the Susitna River valley for many years," Brent Cole, Garrod's lawyer, said in a statement. "This is an unfortunate occurrence which should make all citizens of Alaska pause and contemplate the unbridled power of the state of Alaska."
 

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‘I'm not hurting anyone’
Many Alaskans think Vandergaw is just plain crazy and lucky not to be "Treadwelled," a term used by some unsympathetic Alaskans referring to Timothy Treadwell, a self-described "bear protector" who had a similarly chummy relationship with bears. He and his girlfriend were eaten by grizzlies in Katmai National Park in 2003.

---i especially liked this part! haha--not the part bout timmy being eaten, just the terminology!
 

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I may not agree with trying to befriend wild bears like pets, but there is no need to send him to jail. It is his body, his life, and his cabin. If he wants to tempt fate then let him.
 
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Cookie monster

The man should be allowed to feed what ever wild life wanders on to his property without fear of government fines or reprisals.

If the guy has been feeding the bears for 2o years then i'm sure he probably knows more about their behaviour than any fish and game official.

If his feeding is not harming the bears leave the man be i say.
 
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movingtocally

People should be allowed to be weird. This whole slippery slope argument doesn't wash with freedom loving people. Well if he feeds the bears then the bears might eventually be more prone to attack blah blah blah. Same argument they give for drugs.

:fsu:
 

subrob

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ya its all good till one of 'his' bears runs into a human without a bag of dog food. trust me, alaskans got no problems with strange people, there would be about 7 people in the state if weirdness was not tolerated there. but when your eccentricities could put someone else in danger, then its a problem.
 
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CheifnBud2

Getting involved in the life of the Bear guy...

Brought to you by the people who invented raiding medical cannabis disepensaries, and pushing cripples off their wheelchairs.
 
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TrichyTrichy

This man needs to stay in his own animal realm. What displaced energy. He should be held accountable if those bears approach humans...
 

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for real, why does the law always gotta go and butt in on peoples lives!!

i could care less if this guy wants to endanger himself by feeding bears, but a 10000 fine and jail time?? they are practically begging to lock this guy up...FOR WHAT>??
 

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for real, why does the law always gotta go and butt in on peoples lives!!
...FOR WHAT>??

first as u guys prolly know i don't agree w/ what the guy is doing for the exact reason that subrob mentioned. The guy isn't doing the bears any favors.

Alaska fish and game have some bigger issues that they should spend their time on tho.

While this guy is playing teddy bear w/ bears that'll prolly kill him off eventually anyway there is a HUGE problem going on in Prince William Sound and other parts of alaska w/ asians that are killing black bears left and right and hacking out their gall blader to sell on the asian black market, and letting the rest of the carcas lay to rot.

maybe spend some time dealing w/ that and hopefully this guy will stop like he says, or the bears will stop it.
 
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This man needs to stay in his own animal realm. What displaced energy. He should be held accountable if those bears approach humans...

hhuumm it's kinda hard i'd imagine to stay in ones own realm when his house is built in the bears territory, a territory that has probably been reduced because us humans are building more and more in the country side.

20 years without any problems says a lot, well until the media and government come along threatening the poor old duffer with jail and fines for feeding one of gods creatures?

No doubt bears are dangerous creatures and i understand why some people hold the opinion that they should'nt be fed but where do you draw the line.
Should i stop feeding the geese in winter because of the slight chance they may have the hn51 virus or should i stop feeding the badgers that pop in to the garden for fear of TB you see where i'm going with this.

Let the man live as he has been for the past 20 years i mean chances are he lives in the middle of no-where and the bears are only a danger to the hand that feeds them.
 

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TrichyTrichy

He is engaging with animal which will quickly learn to approach people. Unfortunately,the growth rate of our soceity makes us encroach on their land....
Denali park is a microcosm of bears roaming freely amongst campers and trail hikers- coexisting peacefully.
This is because the bears have learned/taught to stay away from people.
 

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The guys going to get all of the bears shot. He's teaching them that they can have human contact and be fed for doing it. When in fact most people that are approached by a bear are going to take it as a threat and shoot them.....
 

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a lot of valid points in the thread, I think he is endangering other humans
by desensitizing the bears to fearing humans & from what I've seen bullying
that guy Charlie for food. Bears have a huge range and these will likely
encounter other people who'll immediately be in danger.......

 
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Cookie monster

True that...lots of good valid points and i know i'm probably wrong and i'd have a different point of view if the bears had of caused a problem no doubt.

That being said we're talking about 1 individual case where there never seems to have been a problem not feeding the bears in general.

Either way i think i'd prefer to be approached by a bear with a full belly rather than a hungry bear, us irish folk are quite tasty...years of being marinaded in guinness
 

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