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DNA samples taken at birth in US hospitals!

Hash Zeppelin

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This is the least scary thing the U.S. government wants to do with babies. they wanna put these tiny nano chip capsules (that are now in all credit cards, and many products) inside all new born citizens. they emit a radio signal for about 5 foot radius. the signal contains all of your personal information. The signal readers are currently installed at most retail shops, because they wer originally created for product tracking. You can buy a reader on e-bay for 10 bucks already. credit card scammers buy them, and wave them near your pocket in the mall, and steal your personal info.

None of this is paranoia, its true. This is some 1984, big brother, scary shit.

If put into people, they can be tracked at all times.

ask pirate for the link to the more detailed info
 

T.Baggins

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Implantable RFID chips are already being used in humans.... as well as everything else, including your computer!
 

Hash Zeppelin

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yup RFID chips, thats the thing I'm talking about. that is scary shit for real, not made up conspiracy. now I'm gonna go eat some LAYS chips. bbq.
 
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eidanyosoy

i could easily see that happen. fukin gov wants all the control they can get.....and not just in the US.

im sure they would "sugar coat" such an intrusion w/ glam words like "research" or "genetic studies".

i remember in 3rd grade the local cops came to our grade school and wanted to fingerprint EVERY student in the school...they sent a note home saying that they were doing it for "our safety" in case we get kidnapped or sum stupid shit.

they were doing it on a friday, and when my dad saw the letter he tore it up and said "we're going fishing friday". (my dad hates that shit as much as i do)

lmao your dad sounds like my kind of people.
 

kaotic

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I live in a bad neihborhood but have good neihbors, break ins are common these days. I always fear someone will break in not knowing I grow. With my neihbors being good samaritans they will call the cops and report the break in. No search warrant needed.
 

VirginHarvester

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I wouldn't mind it so much their taking DNA upon being charged if they had already taken samples of police, LEO, and all govt employees.
 

Shrek

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So does anyone care to postulate why this would be a bad thing? Here are some of the positives I can come up with. Rapists would be caught likely after their first crime. Research is mounting that an awful lot of rapists are serial rapists. Rapes would be prevented as many inclined to commit the crime would never do so knowing their DNA is on file. This also works with murder, to a lesser extent. Perhaps you like the idea of major crimes against innocent people going unsolved/occurring?

OK, your turn. Tell me why in the world this would be a negative thing. BTW the only reason they don't take fingerprints at birth is because they aren't formed yet.
Cuz my DNA is mine! And I'm innocent until proven guilty, if they suspect me of a crime, they can test me then.
 

Hash Zeppelin

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All I am willing to give them is a stool sample. I'll write "eat this" on the sample container!
 

madrecinco

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I used to collect court ordered DNA labs on inmates. PIA.... as all of them say they are innocent. But DNA don't lie!
Good investigative tool if your wife or child gets raped though.

You can't have it all. The guy who discovered the double helix was on acid BTW!

QUICK......Which is the ONLY cell in the body without DNA! google is cheating!
 

Illadelph

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I used to collect court ordered DNA labs on inmates. PIA.... as all of them say they are innocent. But DNA don't lie!
Good investigative tool if your wife or child gets raped though.

You can't have it all. The guy who discovered the double helix was on acid BTW!

QUICK......Which is the ONLY cell in the body without DNA! google is cheating!

the structure of DNA was discovered by two guys, where did you hear that bit of information?


"On Feb. 28, 1953, Francis Crick walked into the Eagle pub in Cambridge, England, and, as James Watson later recalled, announced that "we had found the secret of life." Actually, they had. That morning, Watson and Crick had figured out the structure of deoxyribonucleic acid, DNA. And that structure — a "double helix" that can "unzip" to make copies of itself — confirmed suspicions that DNA carries life's hereditary information."
 

madrecinco

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the structure of DNA was discovered by two guys, where did you hear that bit of information?

It is a well known fact that Francis Crick was on acid in those days though and easy to substantiate so use your google finger as it is true. Opened his mind he said to discover double helix. His partner James Watson and there was a lot of controversy in the end between them, but they did share the Nobel Peace Prize!
 
the reality is that if the govt wants your dna, they will get it. they could check any piece of your mail filtered through any mail service and get saliva from a sticky note you licked. they could have someone stalk you and get dead skin cells off the car door you touched. they could get dead skin cells of your house door handle when you sleep, or of a hair that fell off your head while walking somewhere.

reality is if the govt wants you for something they have you. live GPS (night vision included so day or night) they can follow you on a live-google-map looking gps and watch everything you do, they could pay people to follow you, pay people you work with to lie to you to get you to admit something, they could make your death look like a car accident, make your death look like a spontaneous explosion of your car/house, make a house fire of your house look like an accident
they could......... etcetc


do you get the point? that never ends, EVER.

the free one is one who is above it, who is not concerned with it the "could be"

free yourself from mental slavery
 

madrecinco

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Hair without the root attatched.

No RBC"S red blood cells have no nucleus....[no DNA]
when they extract DNA from blood they are getting it from WBC's white blood cells which do have a nucleus.

They use saliva now mostly though. To prove Thomas Jefferson was the father of slave Sally Hemmings baby they used old Toms dental pulp!
 

madrecinco

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the reality is that if the govt wants your dna, they will get it. they could check any piece of your mail filtered through any mail service and get saliva from a sticky note you licked. they could have someone stalk you and get dead skin cells off the car door you touched. they could get dead skin cells of your house door handle when you sleep, or of a hair that fell off your head while walking somewhere.

reality is if the govt wants you for something they have you. live GPS (night vision included so day or night) they can follow you on a live-google-map looking gps and watch everything you do, they could pay people to follow you, pay people you work with to lie to you to get you to admit something, they could make your death look like a car accident, make your death look like a spontaneous explosion of your car/house, make a house fire of your house look like an accident
they could......... etcetc


do you get the point? that never ends, EVER.

the free one is one who is above it, who is not concerned with it the "could be"

free yourself from mental slavery

You leave your DNA everywhere in your daily life. That is why forensics is busting so many criminals these days. Drink a soda and toss the can or bottle. You just gave access for you DNA!
 
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dongle69

It is a well known fact that Francis Crick was on acid in those days though and easy to substantiate so use your google finger as it is true.

Francis Crick denied that.
He did say that he used it later in life, but not then.
Matt Ridley started the rumor is his book about Crick.
The Ridley story caught fire on the internet because it was an interesting (albeit false) tidbit, which explains its Google presence.
You have to have better Google chops for the real info.
Crick said he would sue Ridley if he printed such a lie, so Ridley waited until Crick was dead.
 

GrüneErd

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everybody (should) know(s) that Watson and Crick wouldn't have had shit without Rosalind Franklin....

and another negative of taking everyone's DNA is that it can be stored in a database where insurance companies can investigate a potential customer's possibility of genetic disorders, and deny them/amp up the prices for coverage EVEN if they are completely healthy. oh wait, that already happens...
peace
 

GrüneErd

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btw it's such a shame that Watson and Crick got a damn nobel peace prize and Rosalind just got to die of cancer, with no credit for her amazing and vital interpretations of X-ray Crystallography...
 

GMT

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Madre, does that mean that white blood cels replicate themselves but red cells are made somewhere?
 
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