killing trees for more sunlight

[Miss Blunted]

If you kill that tree...plant 50 more somewhere else. Everyone should plant trees. I've had that problem before...shade can be a m-fker.

 

[Guest]

Lolagal has stated my first approach: find a southern facing forest edge that allows the cannopy to hide your plants.

Tree cutting, training and management is one of the most active parts of my growing and is one of the top 5 growing behaviors that i engage. I plant fast growing seedlings where needed for screens(poplars go from seedling to 15' in the first season). I plant thorn tree seedlings everywhere. My favorite approach is to plant 5 or 6 pine seedlings, (they cost 12$ per 100 from the state nursery) in a clump like manner and plant my plant in amongst them, making sure my plant cant be seen from any direction . I have numerous plants growing with that arraingement. I add nitrogen to the trees to make thier color more mimic the color of my plant.

1. Trees can block the aerial veiw of plants
2. Trees such as sumac or pine saplings hide cannabis very well
3. Fallen trees block entrance and passage.
4. sappling tops, cut off and placed over your seedlings keeps deer from being able to stick their head down to your plant and eat it and as the plant grows, the branches of the tree keep the plant from blowing over.
5. Placing a good sized rock in the branch fork of a sappling can lean the tree as it grows to block a view if necessary

Back to the question:

A cordless drill/ w 3/4 spade bit. Drill about 4" deep at the base of the tree at a downward angle and inject as much vegetaion killer/ stump remover as possible. Bigger trees may require a couple of holes, (but dont kill large mature trees or good specimens). this method can take several weeks to work, so preplanning is helpful. I try to make sure my tree work gets done in winter or the year before i grow. I want the tree to die Without leaves on it.

It takes 2 years of seedling growth b efroe i can plant in the middle of the pine seedlings as they have to get about 6' tall to be effective. Plan ahead. the time to prepare for next years grow is immediately after you get this year's grow planted... and dont be afraid to modify your grow area to be better. Vines, sapplings, thorns all can be planted. BUILD AND DEVELOP YOUR GROWSITE. CONTROL YOUR OWN DESTINY WHEN NATURE FAILS TO PROVIDE THE PERFECT GROWING CONDITIONS.

We have so many trees. Hundreds loose the competive race each year, so my few cuttings are having any effect.

 

[Fast_Pine]

The bad karma is killing a tree for such a selfish reason. It is a lot easier to find another place to grow and let the trees live.

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I can tell neither one of ya'll have any experience cutting trees down. It is dangerous and can kill you or others.

Selfish....Dude, God put all of this(nature) here for us to use. Go read the book of Genesis. The forrest is here for us to work with. I feed my self, clothe my family, keep myself warm, and make a good living...If those are selfish acts,,,Then you, and everyone reading this selfish..Simply because I drop a fiew select trees to get some more light down to the shady portions of the patch doesent mean im some sort of forrest rapist..In fact,,Im one of the guys that picks up all the beer bottles and trash I see on the sides of the forrest roads...

Its taken me 0ver 5years to find the spots that im currently using. These places are like gold to me. Guerilla patches (in my climate) that can yield 50+Lbs are fiew and far between. Your attitude that a good guerilla patch is adime adozen, shows that you have no idea what yer talking about..

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I have more experience cutting trees than you would think......I really resent your comment about my suspected lack of ability to cut down a tree..

Maby you should follow this years grow journal, an learn who yer talking to.

I break my back on a daily basis for this! Cutting down a fuckin tree is the last of my worries..

 

[Fast_Pine]

OK you are DEA in a chopper flying along looking for weed in a sea of green trees when you spot a dead tree. The eye is drawn to the dead tree since it is not like all the others. Human nature. That's how they spot the plot....

Why not plant on the edge of a forest with south and west light coming in on the plants.

There isnt a forrest on earth that isnt already littered with dead trees..sea of green trees........

Your post is hilarious...

edge of a forrest.........Youre serious arent you..





Looks like weve found the lorax

 

[Fast_Pine]

After you kill it they will come and "thin" the forest as you say for sure.

They will find your patch or a tree will strike on your plants while they will be "thinning" the forest. How is that for karma ?

I see you already tried killing it. I just hope the tree will survive human stupidity....
Killing a healthy tree for couple of weeds is plain stupid...sorry...

"A tree will strike on my plants wile they will be thinning the forrest",...huh?...

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This thread if full of geniuses...

Do any of you guys actually grow weed out in the woods?...Or are you simply taking the chance to jump up on a soapbox..


Maby those of you who are against cutting should do a quick google search on "forrest thinning" and its many BENEFITS..

 

[beek]

One thing is thinning the woods because trees are of bad health or dead but killing perfectly healthy tree for couple of joints is really stupid. If I find someone poking holes in my forest because he wants to get a little higher be assured he will not be high at all this year. But ok you can blind yourself and tell to yourself that you are somehow helping the forest by drilling holes into some tree that by your opinion should not be there. Mentality.....

Fast_Pine...You mix forest "managment" with plain and stupid killing of a healhy tree for no reason at all. I am not some green lunatic or something but I see people planting MJ all over the place and not caring for the forest that at the end gives them smoke they so much want. For a tree to grow to maturity it takes decades. Killing a tree because you want two hours extra sunlight on your weeds shows how lazy you are. Find another spot or live with it....

 

[StickyFingerz]

I don't think there is any need to poke fun at people's comments just because a difference of opinion. Let's stay on the issue, which is "killing trees for more sunlight", and leave each other alone.

Bottom line: You can ring a tree to kill it, definitely, to allow more sunlight, but it is your opinion to use the technique or not.

 

[mackie40]

Wow, the tree huggers on here act like were murdering people to grow pot... its just a tree for crying out loud.. i could understand an entire forest... but you guys are getting your panties in a wedge about one tree?? I mean.. another will eventually grow in its place. If it takes killing a tree to grow another kind of plant that makes people feel good.. i say go for it.. another tree will eventually take its place anyway.
I wouldn't doubt the tree huggers here are living in a home where a tree once stood.. or eating vegetables from a farm where trees once stood.. or driving on roads were trees once stood.. or used paper or lumber.. and on and on. Why don't they start taking their own advice and stop doing these things?

 

[Julian]

This topic always makes me wonder why it's okay to plant a tree in it's/their place, but not hundreds of plants in it's/their place/general vicinity......

Hmm.



Not to mention depending on the region and tree,(maple, ash, elms, pines, etc) many are constantly popping up...(I've been in many regions where trees drop pods and each season hundreds of new ones are popping up out of the ground......)

 

[LolaGal]

Nobody on here seems to advocating tree hugging that I know of.

I can find 3000 spots to grow in where I am that don't have to cut one tree. I am just trying to warn ya'll that those dead trees draw attention. Cut every tree down on your property for all I care. If it's not your land, leave the trees alone.

Dead trees = attention

attention = prison

prison = no fun

 

[mriko]

God put all of this(nature) here for us to use. Go read the book of Genesis.

yeah.. sure ! except that we not only used, but totally fucked up the planet ! Worst inspiration ever !

Irie !

 

[PrinceOfPersia]

Im with fast pine on this one also!

If you feel guilty, plant 10 trees for each you cut.

 

[hamstring]

Selfish....Dude, God put all of this(nature) here for us to use. Go read the book of Genesis. The forrest is here for us to work with. I feed my self, clothe my family, keep myself warm, and make a good living...If those are selfish acts,,,Then you, and everyone reading this selfish..Simply because I drop a fiew select trees to get some more light down to the shady portions of the patch doesent mean im some sort of forrest rapist..In fact,,Im one of the guys that picks up all the beer bottles and trash I see on the sides of the forrest roads...

Its taken me 0ver 5years to find the spots that im currently using. These places are like gold to me. Guerilla patches (in my climate) that can yield 50+Lbs are fiew and far between. Your attitude that a good guerilla patch is adime adozen, shows that you have no idea what yer talking about..

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I have to agree with FP here maybe not in so many words but.....

I consider myself a bit of a tree hugger and I personally don’t hunt any more but was a trapper and hunter. Hunters and trappers put more money into saving habitat than all the "Tree Huggers" in the world combined. Doesn’t make sense to throw rocks in a glass house.

Most of us guerrilla growers love and respect our environment and understand a small amount of harvesting from the land is not detrimental. It makes us respect it even more because we are depending on it to provide for us in one way or another.

Bad karma comes from people who don’t understand that, people who aren’t out there busting their balls to harvest a deer or rabbit, berries, shrooms or some fine outdoor grown bud.
PEACE

 

[beek]

I don't see any "tree huggers" here in this thread. This is not some lunatic green movement we are talking about here. If you grow outside be respectful and don't kill a tree because you want hour more of sunlight. Move somewhere else or live with it. Especially if it is not your property. Is it so hard to get this ?

Spare me with comments like oh I do so much for environment. It reminds me of those racist guys who go on like this : I don't hate them, I have friends among them but you know they are filthy.....

 

[Chomp]

I am no tree huger by any means....lol I believe in Karma though...The problem I see is this: If a patch like this with evidence of intentionally killed trees, gets busted/discovered we all get an even worse rap than we already have. That's a big issue in some places and it's one getting the attention of the main stream media. I have seen several negative stories involving habitat destruction and outdoor grows.

IHMO if it's not your tree it's wrong to kill it. If you're on someone else's land you should respect it accordingly. It's property destruction and it's not cool.

 

[hamstring]

Spare me with comments like oh I do so much for environment. It reminds me of those racist guys who go on like this : I don't hate them, I have friends among them but you know they are filthy.....

Not sure I understand your comment if you are insinuating that Hunters and Trappers and Fisherman don’t put more money into the environment than all others combined I suggest you do some research.

Guess what these same guys cut down trees for a better shot at a deer and cut down saplings to use as stakes to hold their traps or cut a whole patch of trees down so they can put their boat in the water. So I guess with your logic all these people are filthy racists or am I not following correctly.
PEACE

 

[beek]

Not sure I understand your comment if you are insinuating that Hunters and Trappers and Fisherman don’t put more money into the environment than all others combined I suggest you do some research.

Guess what these same guys cut down trees for a better shot at a deer and cut down saplings to use as stakes to hold their traps or cut a whole patch of trees down so they can put their boat in the water. So I guess with your logic all these people are filthy racists or am I not following correctly.
PEACE

You are not following correctly......

 

[hamstring]

I am no tree huger by any means....lol I believe in Karma though...The problem I see is this: If a patch like this with evidence of intentionally killed trees, gets busted/discovered we all get an even worse rap than we already have. That's a big issue in some places and it's one getting the attention of the main stream media. I have seen several negative stories involving habitat destruction and outdoor grows.

IHMO if it's not your tree it's wrong to kill it. If you're on someone else's land you should respect it accordingly. It's property destruction and it's not cool.

I respect your answer but when you guerrilla grow do you dig holes or cut down any vegetation so you can plant? If so how do justify that a wild plant or flower is not as worthy as a tree how in your mind do you resolve the difference?

I promise its not a smart ass question but I don’t get it how can people differentiate between a tree and all other living things. Who gets to decide what is worthy of life and what has to be killed so you can grow your plant? There must be a logical conclusion right or at least I hope so.

PEACE

 

[Ajunta Pall]

All I can say is just chop the fucker down. Out in the woods I've seen trees that at the ground level look dead. Stripped of bark, the trunk's exposed wood rotted and pitted w/age. But look up to the sky, it has green leaves and is thriving at the top. I would just cut the thing down and plant some plants are robust enough to hide your MJ. Personally, I grow for the $$$$, and time in the field is money. And I'm not going to waste either trying to keep a stupid tree alive.

The amount of live trees I've cut down total comes to about 4, and in each case I gained more than just one lousy hour of sunlight on my patch. All of those trees, by the way, faced south. I try not to do untoward damage to the enviornment, but if there is an obstacle in my way, I will remove it.

 

[Xare]

I use a technique called Girdling.

You take a saw and cut a ring round the tree about an inch deep.

This cuts the phloem and the tree can not uptake nutrients and water anymore.

This is a Physical death, not Chemical.


And to the Ethics of killing the tree...

I will put it in a way you Leftist Tree huggers will understand.

The Sacrifice that the Tree makes is for the Greater Good.