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Hanna 9813 PH/EC/TDS .7 or .5?

FreezerBoy

Was blind but now IC Puckbunny in Training
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Set it to EC (mS/cm or millisiemens per centimeter)

"TDS" and "PPM" are nonexistent, bogus lies. NO meter measures "PPM" or "TDS"! They measure EC and tell you the truth or, they measure EC and lie to you! "PPM" is EC x500, or 560, or 640, or 650, or 700, or 720 or 768 or some number too stupid to even remember. If this thing's truly variable, it's the biggest liar out there using any damn number it pleases to fuck your reading.

Plants are illiterate. They don't care that "PPM" is nonsense. Conversation, however becomes difficult when people can't agree on the bullshit factor. In this case, the meter itself can't agree. EC is EC everywhere you go. Stick to mS/cm.
 

FreezerBoy

Was blind but now IC Puckbunny in Training
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I'm sorry but, that link is bogus babel.

"For example: a nutrient solution that measures 1000ppm, on a TDS meter, will be the same strength as a solution that reads 1430 µS or 1.43 mS on an EC meter."

FALSE! 1000 "PPM" does NOT equal EC 1.43. It equals EC 2. Unless it equals EC 1.8. Or it could equal EC 1.6 or EC 1.5 or EC 1.4 or EC 1.3. Are we confused yet?

According to the specs, the 9813 is variable. "PPM" is useless enough when fixed. If this can actually use any bullshit factor it wants, it's less than useless.



"PPM" changes with the tides. EC is EC everywhere you go.
 

ShroomDr

CartoonHead
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Set it to EC (mS/cm or millisiemens per centimeter)

"TDS" and "PPM" are nonexistent, bogus lies. NO meter measures "PPM" or "TDS"! They measure EC and tell you the truth or, they measure EC and lie to you! "PPM" is EC x500, or 560, or 640, or 650, or 700, or 720 or 768 or some number too stupid to even remember. If this thing's truly variable, it's the biggest liar out there using any damn number it pleases to fuck your reading.

Plants are illiterate. They don't care that "PPM" is nonsense. Conversation, however becomes difficult when people can't agree on the bullshit factor. In this case, the meter itself can't agree. EC is EC everywhere you go. Stick to mS/cm.


He is right.


forget about ppm, and just start using ec.

people/companies that use ppm are assholes. Now we have to look up there conversion rate:wallbash:
 

Capn

Member
I believe the reason its variable is to alow it to compensate for nutrient solution tempurature.
 
G

Greyskull

the conversion factor is .7 for that meter
its a great meter that has served me well for a few years now.

for shits and giggles I always check the
mS/cm before i check the ppm... I'll mulitply it by 700 then check the ppm reading. always good as gold.

make sure you keep it calibrated!
 

Capn

Member
Yes it does. Nutrient solution of different temperature but same PPM will measure differently because temperature effects conductivity.
 

ShroomDr

CartoonHead
Veteran
actually you are correct, in that, temp does effect the electrical conductivity. But that has nothing to do with why ppm is variable, which is what i was actually trying to say.
 

SKUNK420

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Yes EC is the true reading but ppm's to me is a finer way of measures nutrients. If you work or worked in a machine shop where tight tolerances matter then you'll under it's like 1/8", 1/16" or 1/32" or thousandth of an inch" when using micrometers. I just wish the damn nutrient manufacturers would would stick to an EC standard or list their conversion factor when using ppm's. General Hydroponics uses NaCI scale 0.5 and it's listed on their FloraNova bottles and Fox Farm is 0.7 look at their feeding chart and do the math.
 

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