How Much Should It Really Cost?

[Pirate]

I didn't hear anyone mention MY $1000.00 per month electric bill or the $2850 per month rent. 1/2 that rent I would not have if I didn't grow enough to feed the hungry. (I would live elsewhere and wouldn't need the extra room)

Operating costs approach $3500.00 per month. (not including the normal household expenses we all have)

Weed is priced just right on the street. It actually cost less today than it did 20 years ago and the quality is higher.

Be happy !!

 

[arcticsun]

a 1000$ a month electric bill grow.. and a 3k almost for rent..


me thinks you be livin lavish my man



.. but i agree with u, complain to the government if the market is fucked up, not to people risking their asses and spending all their time nesting on a grow like an egg.

 

[ocean99]

I could give a fuck less if a grower wants to place a $300+ markup on his zips, what I'm fucking tired of is skinny sacks. DAMN. The people I have to deal with when my main connect isn't in town are the biggest fucking douche bags on the planet, and I actually think they're pretty cool guys. Like no joke, an 8th of an ounce for 50 bucks? WTF.

 

[Stoner4Life]

what's the real cost? the real value?

sometimes I spend $100 for a 7gm sack but the stuff I
grow is literally 3-4 times as good, nice trichs, cured to
perfection and quality genetics. So the real cost or it's
value can be measured against what you'd spend to get
the same buzz off of street weed ~~~ I never sell what
I grow but I'd need around $250 per 7gms & very likely if
I ever did sell some it'd be to one of the connects that'd
be selling me that mediocre bud for straight money.

what goes around comes around.......

 

[Yes4Prop215]

What does his nice paying job have ANYTHING to do with his pound handling. I think $900 profit on a pound is extremely fair. I mean seriously..what you do want him to make off one? Why would anyone being selling pounds for small dollar amounts? If you were BUYING lbs for 2K what would you off them for?

Dont like the price..dont buy and dont bitch. Its that simple.


PM

You dont know the exact situation, 900 is extremely high markup in my opinion, for this kid and his circumstances. Thats the main reason i dont even fuck with him anymore, i dont even pick up his calls.

 

[XIII]

finely cured buds should cost less than ten dollars a pound...

O RLY?

I'd love to meet someone who would trim a pound of bud for $10, much less grow and then cure it for 60+ days.

 

[itsjustaride]

its worth ALOT considering you, me, and everyone reading this has risked freedom and privliage to aquire and use it.

 

[movingtocally]

It should costs a quarter for a joint, or free from pals. A zip maybe ten bucks, 15 for a long flowering sativa. It would grow everywhere. Just walk along and pick some at the right time of year.


Alas, the black market is sending people to prison and graves. Growers take a massive risk. As does everyone else involved in getting the stuff from the ground to joe sick pack stoner.


I know an outdoor sativa grower who pays almost literally nothing per harvest, but invests a lot of love, time, and most importantly, risks prison for his grows. As such, even when it is offered for free, I pay 40 an eighth, 80 a quarter, 150 a half, and 250 an oz for the herbs. Cost of production be damned-this man is risking his fucking life growing these herbs. I pay accordingly.

 

[Tony Aroma]

Wow! I didn't expect such a response.

I wasn't accusing you of complaining, those thougts went out to those that did.

I meant that in a good way.

Happy to see a good discussion. Thinking about this stuff and talking about it is always good as far as I'm concerned, whether you agree with me or not.



I just noticed I passed the 500 post mark! Do I get a prize?

 

[Guest]

I didn't hear anyone mention MY $1000.00 per month electric bill or the $2850 per month rent. 1/2 that rent I would not have if I didn't grow enough to feed the hungry. (I would live elsewhere and wouldn't need the extra room)

Operating costs approach $3500.00 per month. (not including the normal household expenses we all have)

Weed is priced just right on the street. It actually cost less today than it did 20 years ago and the quality is higher.

Be happy !!

Also you have to count in the hard work ($40 hour min) / trimming / risk / stress / etc (cause I do it all) while disabled ... I could see outdoor weed being produced for less but wait it is, you can find some commercial outdoor still for 2,000 a lb. Now the quality from this stuff is no where near the medicinal indoor standards I require.

Indoor growing is not easy work especially if you have a room full ... I think i should be compensated the same amount of money I would make in another occupation aka programmer.

Now oldest brother makes 150k as a director at a tech company, wife stays at home.

Middle brother and his wife make over 250k a year

I make way under a 100k a year ... the current prices are about right ... if more people grew now I think the price would stay the same just the quality would go up and growers would have to sit on there herb longer.

Mind you this is in California where the cheapest house around my family is around 400k to 500k.

Middle men are certainly being phaseed out and it's becoming more grower to ---> patient sales.

Off Rant;

Once I feel secure enough I'm sure I will get back into some tech work (my own business) as it is less hard work (even with the taxes), I just currently am taking a break from working with people on h1 visas and the inefficiency and bureaucracy of large businesses.

If everyone went to some sort of higher education in our country, we would not be in these predicaments ...

large corporations, large government in the wrong places, no oversight, and special interests is what hurts our country.

If cannabis ever became legal you can bet that the same shit would happen ...
large business, no small growers, taxed to shit, same price to buy, lower quality herb.

Sometimes in unregulated markets you can get the best of both worlds when the supply catches up with the demand as in California .

A federal medical policy similar to Californians would do a world of good, and not be taxed any more than any other agricultural business, as they get incentives / grants.

Also think how much these little guys could reduce the cost of power to nill ... less demand on oil ... the government is holding the world back from advancing in order for the profits and interests of a few to stay in control ...

http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-toshiba-micro-nuclear-12.17b.html

 

[Greyskull]

Also you have to count in the hard work ($40 hour min) / trimming / risk / stress / etc (cause I do it all) while disabled ... I could see outdoor weed being produced for less but wait it is, you can find some commercial outdoor still for 2,000 a lb. Now the quality from this stuff is no where near the medicinal indoor standards I require.

Indoor growing is not easy work especially if you have a room full ... I think i should be compensated the same amount of money I would make in another occupation aka programmer.

Now oldest brother makes 150k as a director at a tech company, wife stays at home.

Middle brother and his wife make over 250k a year

I make way under a 100k a year ... the current prices are about right ... if more people grew now I think the price would stay the same just the quality would go up and growers would have to sit on there herb longer.

Mind you this is in California where the cheapest house around my family is around 400k to 500k.

Middle men are certainly being phaseed out and it's becoming more grower to ---> patient sales.

FUCKING AYE EXACTLY!

 

[CaptainTrips]

O RLY?

I'd love to meet someone who would trim a pound of bud for $10, much less grow and then cure it for 60+ days.

In an ideal (legal) world, I don't see why not. A pound of any other agri product does not approach weed... Arn't there mechical trimmers... ?

 

[pack a bowl]

Also you have to count in the hard work
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i'd say growing weed is time consuming... but NOT hard work, unless you have a very very very ridiculous operation going down.

 

[BobbleheadJed]

How much should it really cost? There is no right answer to this question. Or rather, there is only one right answer each time this question is actually asked while a transaction is taking place.

How much does anything cost? Two consenting adults will decide this for themselves for each transaction they make. That is how much something should really cost. The seller and buyer set the price.

IF you want to control that cost in some manner by taking that pricing decision out of the hands of those two consenting adults, then you will need to hold guns to people's heads in order to enforce that price control, which is contrary to human rights and the principles of freedom for individuals.

 

[arcticsun]

depends what you mean by hard work.. compared to working the saltmines.. well ofc not..


but its hard on you in more then one way, like psycologically its hard to stay "normal" and not retreat into your own little sphere.


and ofc.. outdoor grows, especially guerilla grows.. now thats just hard work nomatter what u say! .. not talking about porch/backyard grows

 

[greenhead]

I think that weed is way too expensive (compared to how much it costs to produce), but it is simple supply/demand. If somebody can charge an arm and a leg for an ounce of bud, and people are willing to pay that price for it, then there is no reason for anybody to lower any prices.

I think that even if weed ever became legal, it would still be fairly high priced, especially compared to what it costs to grow the stuff. I've never been to one of those med places in Cali, but the prices there don't seem cheap at all.

 

[Guest]

In sf med club you can get an indoor ounce for $230-350 that's cheaper than Amsterdam ....

 

[mpd]

I didn't hear anyone mention MY $1000.00 per month electric bill or the $2850 per month rent. 1/2 that rent I would not have if I didn't grow enough to feed the hungry. (I would live elsewhere and wouldn't need the extra room)

Operating costs approach $3500.00 per month. (not including the normal household expenses we all have)

Weed is priced just right on the street. It actually cost less today than it did 20 years ago and the quality is higher.

Be happy !!

Okay, it's mentioned...

I'm still jealous of your set-up. When I get real balls (when Mrs. MPD lets me have them back - it could happen) I'll do a grow like yours. Until then, it's for me and a few close med. patient friends who would never rat out their source of medicine.

Or so I hope...

 

[greenhead]

In sf med club you can get an indoor ounce for $230-350 that's cheaper than Amsterdam ....

Wow, that's crazy. I didn't know that weed was that expensive in Amsterdam. Where I am at (east coast), there's probably some of the highest prices in the country for weed. I'll probably still grow my own, even if it ever becomes legal. Expensive is still expensive, legal or not.

 

[arcticsun]

In sf med club you can get an indoor ounce for $230-350 that's cheaper than Amsterdam ....

an ounce is 28 grams, that would be about 10dollars pr gram.. thats not cheaper then amsterdam..


or a very likely amount to buy in amsterdam as noone knows how much an ounce is. they use the metric system


also the counter limit is 5 grams in coffeeshops, you cant buy more then that, but you will get a substancial discount allready at 5 grams.


normally illegal deals dont carry a discount in europe atleast not most places until 50+ grams

another thing that comes to mind is that us med clubs doesnt resemble an open market by far, its more like a coop.. almost alittle communist inspired hehe


.. lastly, its cheaper in other dutch cities then in amsterdam which is very touristy