composting bone/blood meal lessen critter curiosity?

[baet]

i will be using a soil mix of blood meal, bone meal , castings, greensand etc....
i believe the only two things critters will be looking for and trying to dig up would be bone and blood meal... there wont be any kind of fish in the mix....
does composting the mix for a few weeks take away the smell, or what? i heard composting can rid your soil of critter problems??

 

[still2big]

You better put some type of fence around em. I had 3 patches dug up last year, 1 coons, 1 by hogs and 1 by i have no freaking idea, skunk ape maybe....

Never organics again outdoors for me....

 

[Guest]

I use Epsoma's organic ferts which is a smorgous board of goodies, bone and blood, wheat germ, alphalfa extract and other ingredients, and i couldnt keep a plant in the ground. I used it in every plant hole and it was almost a terminal decision. I replanted 1 hole 5 different times and every plant at least once as when i would arrive, the hole would be dug out and my plant lying on the ground. I ended up covering my roots with rocks big enough that critters c uldnt move them out of the way to dig. they would still dig at the outer edge of the rock but at least they couldn't dig up the plant.

Never agian for me. It worked my ass of and reduced my yield. They don't eat miracle grow.

 

[North]

My first attempt with organics was just like SBs. i havent used em since.

This year I'm using a fert. similar to the epsoma, and am composting it into my mix, its cookin right now.

I used it VERY sparingly, and really only wanted it since it also has a ton of mychorzial bacteria in it. I'm hoping to inoculate my mix with the bacteria.

been sitting there for 3 weeks now and after 2 weeks no coons,bears or muskrats have messed with it. i'll be checking again tomorrow.

 

[Brother Bear]

using the same mix myself outdoor this year
we plan to put larger plants in the ground
and using small holed chicken wire down on the ground
then covering it with rocks
and natural mulch from surrounding area

best of luck to you

 

[Ajunta Pall]

My advice is to use guano instead. Otherwise, go w/a time released chem fert. like I do. I use a general fert that is 24-6-12 or something like that for veg. Then switch to Colorburst around flowering time that is 15-30-XX or whatever.

 

[Bass Akwards]

Composting can work ...

Composting can work ...

In the case of blood meal that's been allowed to break down in a mix, there doesn't seem to be a problem. Used the BCGA "Super Soil" recipe numerous times without incident. The mix was placed in buckets and allowed to "cure" for several weeks. At that point, there's not enough "blood" aroma to matter.

Fish stuff can only be used late in the season, as part of a foliar spray.

Straight bone meal isn't much of an attractant, except to ants, but it's usually placed near the bottom of the hole anyway, or composted.

Products containing feather meal, or crab meal, are also a hassle. If they're not composted in a mix for several weeks, they can attract critters.

If you want a great all-purpose organic fertilizer to mix in the hole, or as a top-dressing, try Milorganite. It won't attract critters, and in fact might actually help repel deer. Plus, it's fairly inexpensive and has a lot of Iron.

 

[baet]

Silverback, did you allow the mix to compost and cure for a few weeks? There isnt any wheat germ of alfalfa extact in my mix. only problems from bone and blood meal i believe...

Bass Awkawards thanks for the info, thats what i was trying to fig out...
also illl be asking the guys who make it, or who created the recipe, supposidly theyve been working on this outdoor mix for 30 years... but i dont actually know them, its sorta of a friend of my friends dad...

 

[Bass Akwards]

Aside from the critter-attracting elements, don't get too hung-up over any particular "special" recipe.

 

[Bass Akwards]

And furthermore ...

And furthermore ...

I'll be asking the guys who make it, or who created the recipe, supposedly they've been working on this outdoor mix for 30 years ... but I don't actually know them, its sorta of a friend of my friends dad ...

Aside from the critter-attracting elements, don't get too hung-up over any particular "special" recipe.

In the first place, it's a good idea to use only 2/3 of the mix for each hole. The remaining portion should be soil from that hole, mixed completely into the pre-mix. That way you'll get the benefit of inoculating the mix with local microbes & fungus, and usually an airier, looser, mix due to the higher sand content of the crappy soil found in many guerilla gardens. Soil heavy with clay, you say? That's OK too, because if clay is broken down into small pieces while being mixed into the grow-soil, it will provide additional nutrition. ( Clay can have a lot of goodies for plants, but it's usually packed too tightly to be available. )

Keep in mind that the higher-output the mix, the more water the plant will need! Unless you have access to a hose, spring hole, or creek, you might not be get huge benefits from all those nutes.

Decide now what you're aiming to do ... grow a massive crop with as much bud per plant as possible, or get a smaller amount of better tasting, stonier, pot, while expending a lot less effort? There's a trade-off.

Plants that are "babied" don't put out all the "oomph" that they are capable of producing since those reactions are all related to Stress. Lack of moisture, heat, UV, competing plants, and of course, the inability to reproduce, all stress the plant and cause it to pump out more cannabinoids than it would if it was living in "a perfect world".

Best of luck for the new season.

 

[baet]

we will have access to a hose from a well, we will be filling up two reservoirs (45 gal trashcans with water timers) watering two gallons to eash plant a day when its hott(is that enuff water, we'll be using mulch and in ground partially in pots or fully in ground?) i guess we'll figure that out thru out the season stupid question...
but we want massive crop, highhh yields, big colas. we know then we need lots of water, lots of nutes, which will be in the soil mix, and the spot gets lots of sun, starting early may they'll be out already a few weeks growing.
this is our second outdoor grow, same area, but the first we messed up alot, which is normal.

 

[Guest]

I didnt let mine season baet. I used it straight from the bag. Now im just adding composted organics. Rotten leaves/sticks, manure.

Bass ackwards has some good points.

 

[neongreen]

How about digging lots of small decoy holes a few hundred feet away, with just enough blood/bone to attract the critters? After digging up a bunch, they'll probably not want to waste any more energy and move on, in theory.

 

[Bionik Kronik]

How about digging lots of small decoy holes a few hundred feet away, with just enough blood/bone to attract the critters? After digging up a bunch, they'll probably not want to waste any more energy and move on, in theory.

Or you could try some predator urine.

 

[krk]

or just use bat guano....?

 

[baet]

i just bought sum premixed soil from a local shop and friend of mine. has mushroom compost, garden humus, horse chipss(manure), castings, and potting soil mixed in, i think thats it.. just gonna add perilite, and later use guanno!
the only reason before i wasnt gonna use guano was becuz the mix had everything in it, and it was cheaper than anything i could of made or bought ina bag, cause my friends dad makes it...