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JohnnyATL

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I have lived in mexico, and ive been to places your talking about. Where people live in huts made of sticks with cardboard walls and a hatch roof. Ive also been to highrise apts and nice cities. I think that is the main difference.

Third world countries are shitty all over, and developing countries have nice places too.
 

killa-bud

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when i'm in between grows

i will always pick shwagg over dank

im not gonna pay some over priced bullshit,when the bud i grow is 10 times better


shwagg will get you high,and you get a decent amount...to get through the dry times.

OMGZ I NEED DANKZ,posers
 

dopeshow

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Schwag starts becoming schwag the second it's cut down for harvest. Most of the people in the thread already said it, but oh well here's an echo:

1. Drying the product isn't given much care
2. Curing the product is given NO care or consideration
3. Transporting a quality product is given no consideration
4. Picking out males and hermis from fields of cannabis isn't given consideration
5. No incentive for quality over quantity, in fact its opposite

So you started out (just before harvest) with what could be, and probably was, very tasty Sativa type buds. Of course nowadays there is some variation in what's being grown south of the border, but I would still venture a guess that the MAJORITY of cannabis in Mexico hasn't been replaced by Skunk and polyhybrids. So essentially it was beautiful Mexican herb, but then completely destroyed... and there are actually people out there who think that's what weed just "is."

Anyone wanna take a guess how much it would cost to plant as much weed as they do, with your average price for good 'Dutch' genetics? I really don't believe or even see how the Mexican varieties could be eradicated or replaced with hybrid seed from outside source. Especially in the rural areas where I would assume the growing takes place. Like someone mentioned above... they are planting, harvesting and taking seeds for next crop, shipping out the bricked product, repeat process. That wonderful little bit of plant seclusion where it evolves into its own LANDRACE variety. Mexican herb is overlooked and highly underrated. Wasn't always that way, but the product imported from Mexico seems to be getting worse and worse so if anyone thinks Mexican weed, they associate it with the brown frown, dirty, stinky (not in the good way) brick weed.

When I first started growing, the first couple grows were Mexican bag seed and I found some very very tasty flavors and great plants in those beans, I wish I still had 1 or 2 of those phenos. They tasted that well that I still remember it to this day. The one I am thinking of smelled and tasted like sugary sweet, fermented strawberries. Sweet, with a bit of funky pungeancy, and a very noticeable strawberry bite to it... but it all tasted very natural if that makes any sense. From bagseed! I've PAID high price for tons of beans that don't even come close to that Mexi-dream plant. So it always bugs me if I see someone answer the question "What is schwag?" with "Mexican weed."

Brief recap:

If you look at the list I typed, it all really comes down to money. They sell by weight. They don't get bonuses for sensi, they don't get bonuses for the most resin, they don't get bonuses for the tastiest flavors. They fit as much WEIGHT into as little SPACE as possible (like a shoe for instance, good pic) and do whatever they can to get it across the border and make that $$. That's it, that's all. They are COMMERCIAL growers at the most COMMERCIAL end of the spectrum.

Schwag is cannabis that has been poorly dried (if it all), not cured, poorly handled, and poorly transported. The drying, no curing, crappy handling, and crappy packaging CREATE schwag.

For you tobacco smokers out there that want to know what schwag is, plant some tobacco plants in your garden this year and care for 'em like your canna-babies. Dry and cure them properly, and roll yourself what an actual cigarette should be. That homegrown tobacco is the equivalent of your homegrown organic buds, the $6 pack of Marlboros is the schwag. (you'd be amazed at the difference, really)
 

Yes4Prop215

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shwag is usually just bulk weed, simple as that. some grower up in the northwest harvests a huge huge crop, so he bulk dries it or speed dries it, and it turns out into low THC, very bad smelling stuff.

main causes are bad curing, "asian growers around here sometimes have stinky weed, hence the term chinese purps"

people also pick their buds too early, or have to tear down a crop so they chop everything, and they still sell the premature buds and they look pretty shwag.

one of my plants recently just fell over, it needed about 2 weeks more on it, after dried it definately isnt anything special, better than brickpack though.
 

Yes4Prop215

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when i'm in between grows

i will always pick shwagg over dank

im not gonna pay some over priced bullshit,when the bud i grow is 10 times better


shwagg will get you high,and you get a decent amount...to get through the dry times.

OMGZ I NEED DANKZ,posers

around here you cant even find shwag.

i thought that with the depression, i would see more kids looking for cheap bulk weeds, but the result was the opposite.

now, instead of wasting 180 on a low grade zone that wont do anything, kids would rather pay 250+ for something high grade.

of course here in cali what we get for 250 a zip the rest of the country gets for like 400.

but seriously in the bay, good luck finding cheap shwag ounces for under a billl.
 

blackone

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I have lived in mexico, and ive been to places your talking about. Where people live in huts made of sticks with cardboard walls and a hatch roof. Ive also been to highrise apts and nice cities. I think that is the main difference.

Third world countries are shitty all over, and developing countries have nice places too.

I doubt that you'll find many third world countries that are shitty all over - perhaps a few like Somalia etc. But in general they all have an upper class. And upper classes tend to like nice cities.
 

CalcioErba2004

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Another schwag thread...It's shit weed from the get go. Shitty genetics=hermies=sticks and seeds. Just like a few heads have already said, its not grown properly, maintained properly, dried properly, cured properly and it travels thousands of miles and is passed from hand to hand so many times that by the time it gets to the end user its super shitty. The reason we have it is in my opinion people are just lazy and want to make quick money so they sacrifice quality for a quick pay off. Shitty weed is easier to move than stinky high grade shit.
 

bterzz

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There are no such thing as "SHITTY" genetics.

Have you ever grown bag-seed found in shwag? It will almost always come out good if grown properly.
 

soniq

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Isn't it obvious why that doesn't go on? It's schwag because broke ass people in 3rd world countries are trying to grow as much pot as they can with what they have. Which isn't much.

I've had pot from the very same sources that wasn't compressed and it was actually green and fairly passable..... granted, it was all hermi bud but it was bright green and stony, before heading to the press. Even had a somewhat decent minty/piney taste.

take that same pot and press it at 1000psi before it's beeen cured, then let it sit for months, i think that does far more damage than not having certain genetics and ferts and rich soil.

i'm interested by what was said about the hemp seed oil causing most of the shwag aesthetics while in the brick form.
 
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ogatec

around here you cant even find shwag.

i thought that with the depression, i would see more kids looking for cheap bulk weeds, but the result was the opposite.

now, instead of wasting 180 on a low grade zone that wont do anything, kids would rather pay 250+ for something high grade.

of course here in cali what we get for 250 a zip the rest of the country gets for like 400.

but seriously in the bay, good luck finding cheap shwag ounces for under a billl.

geez, if i lived in cali i wold deal in the cheap shit! no money to be made in dank @ those prices! i can get a LB of shwag delivered here for $4oo and sell @ $100 an ounce?!?! ok count me in.
 

Moldy Dreads

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With the cops in the south I am afraid to carry an ounce of weed in my car. A routine speeding ticket leads to a full vehicle search around here.
I just heard on the radio yeterday that POLICE cannot search your car anymore without a warrant! SUPREME COURT RULING!!!
 

dopeshow

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There are no such thing as "SHITTY" genetics.

Have you ever grown bag-seed found in shwag? It will almost always come out good if grown properly.

Thank you!!

Schwag is schwag because of everything that happens from the instant the croppers chop it to the time it actually gets to the end user. The people doing the harvesting, packaging, transporting, and then selling aren't worried about QUALITY they want QUANTITY (weight) which means $$ for them. That's all there is to it! It's NOT the plants fault, there is beautiful herb in Mexico and Central America.

My experience with Mexican import seeds is that you need to germinate a lot more than you actually want in females, like 4 times as many seeds as females you hope to have. After you kill the mutant types, super slow veggers, or super stretchy veggers, the males, and the hermis... you end up with some really solid females. It's the ultimate gambling game because you will surely end up with a plant or two that is bland tasting, bland smelling, and has a bland high... and you wish you would have never wasted your time. But there is also that good chance that 1 or 2 of those plants is going to be phenominal! You just have to use the numbers game to your advantage.

Besides, in the 70s did Sam go exploring from Mexico to Columbia through Afghanistan collecting prize landrace genetics? THEY WERE IMPORTED SEEDS FROM IMPORTED HERB!

I am in no way supporting schwag, I don't smoke it myself anymore and haven't for a long time (and I bet most of the people here are like that). But I do want to stick up for the possibilities of Mexican genetics!!
 

Yes4Prop215

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. Shitty weed is easier to move than stinky high grade shit.

Not true at all!! Whenever we get some super high grade purps or whatever, its way easier to get interest than shwag. I have had shwag low grade "stall" and its hard to give the shit away. High grades are a much better bet, but then again like i said we get high grades for around 250 a zone here so the average dealer price is only around 40-50 an 8th for high quality shit. I guess in the rest of the country where high grade indoors is 80 an 8th the shwag is a better choice.
 

Yes4Prop215

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geez, if i lived in cali i wold deal in the cheap shit! no money to be made in dank @ those prices! i can get a LB of shwag delivered here for $4oo and sell @ $100 an ounce?!?! ok count me in.

even at 100 an ounce i dont think you could sell shwag here.

buying shwag for 100 dollars is basically thowing your money away, you wont get anything but a headache, people will laugh at you for smoking such crap, people wont even let you throw some of it in on their blunts, blah blah blah

basically its a waste, yea its less money, but your throwing that money away.

I would rather pay 100 dollars for an 8th of super high quality indoor that will get me high for a couple days than a ounce of shwag. it may seem more expensive, but its a better value in my opinion.
 

thekingofNY

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even at 100 an ounce i dont think you could sell shwag here.

buying shwag for 100 dollars is basically thowing your money away, you wont get anything but a headache, people will laugh at you for smoking such crap, people wont even let you throw some of it in on their blunts, blah blah blah

basically its a waste, yea its less money, but your throwing that money away.

I would rather pay 100 dollars for an 8th of super high quality indoor that will get me high for a couple days than a ounce of shwag. it may seem more expensive, but its a better value in my opinion.


ROFL... this stuff was bought for right around 100/oz, well its 400 a qp, i got 5 grams from a buddy that gets weigh for 20 bucks on vacation awhile back. Find 1 or 2 seeds in a quarter. IF you are lucky. Gets you baked for 3x longer than 95% of the indoor I come across, even elites. And its mids/schwag.

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