The World's Newest Energy Source Is...

[Moldy Dreads]

T

esla, had figured out the free power deal early in the 1900's. He said he could power the entire earth from 13 towers that tap into the power that is flowing all around us. But you know that story right, general cabel, general electric, westinghouse, siemens, wouldn't be the companies they are today with fucking us all everyday. Kinda like the same way they fucked MJ to get rid of hemp.

You know what's crazier "Dick", LOL, is that most people have no clue who Tesla was, and the history of this bullshit you describe...they'd rather watch American Idol and think that it's just a conspiracy theory..

If only everyone knew how he got ripped off and how Dupont and company created the myths behind Cannabis the world would be a different place and I bet we wouldn't be dependent off Arabian Oil fields..

 

[Stoner4Life]

hemp powered high efficiency electric turbines.......

be the pioneer, both George Soros & Sir Richard Branson
would very well be huge contributers. All R&D to be done
off of US soil for the most obvious reasons.

 

[mpd]

Interesting opinions to be sure. Tesla's stuff was tested on Mythbusters and the Tesla free-energy thingy didn't pan out...

American Idol can't be all bad, Moldy. We watch because one of the contestants is a friend of ours (very famous) and slept on the couch in our house for a few nights when her marriage was breaking up.

Back to energy....

 

[mpd]

hemp powered high efficiency electric turbines.......

be the pioneer, both George Soros & Sir Richard Branson
would very well be huge contributers. All R&D to be done
off of US soil for the most obvious reasons.

Won't work. I think hemp is illegal, so we won't waste our energy on that. Next you'll be saying that marijuana power could be used and I read somewhere on an online site that marijuana is illegal too, but I can't remember the site...

 

[grady]

Mythbusters...........huh.....you mean the guys that couldnt get the (HHO) HYDROGEN GEN. to work either...........I did , It's basic science/chem ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,<<<<<<<<<<<<< The gov wants you to "think" these free energy devices don't work, but I am a beleVer in TESLA!!!!!!!! he had free power and the gov ended that becuz of money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So EDISON & FRANKLIN got the credit for TESLA'S invention. That is THE ONLY BS ABOUT FREE ENERGY!


THE LUTEC/BENDINI MOTOR IS THE TESLA MOTOR JUST A NEW REVISED VERSION..........

TESLA MOTOR TO TURN AN A/C GEN. THAT HOW IT WOULD WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM AN ELECTRICIAN AND HAVE PLANNED ON BUILDING THIS FOR MY HOUSE................

THANKS, THIS IS MY FAVORITE SUBJECT, I COULD GO ON AND ON ................PEACE

 

[mpd]

If you have done what you claim grady (and I have no reason to doubt your claim at this point) why have you not had your findings validated by a venture capital firm or academia so you could cash in on it?

If what you say is true, I would be glad to take the proof and put you in touch with some venture capitalists who would be thrilled to work with your invention...

 

[havalota]

There are some very interesting videos on youtube that talks about this very thing and the real reason why it is nearly impossible to market free energy devices.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWOxnXKB8VQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2B2HldNdns&feature=related

So, what ever happened to these inventions?

 

[grady]

MPD: It's not my invention, thanks for the offer, but with economy like it is, I can't give you proof right now,...but I have studied & planned for 2 years now.............. HAPPY 420 BRO & ALL MJ LOVERS



THE TESLA MOTOR/GEN is not new just suppresed by power co. & gov. becuz of money

John Bendini is in the land down under were they are pro offgrid ..........U.S. will not allow such a device to be sold........you have to build yourself

 

[genkisan]

There is no free energy.....period.

The Second Law of Thermodynamics is real folks........get over it.


If you want "free" energy, just capture what the sun sends us every day....for free.

 

[noreason]

hi all man...
do you already know about magnetic energy???
maybe it's the best way to create energy I've ever seen...several esperiments are already done with positive results...search for iy on youtube or see this video: VIDEO

 

[blackone]

I voted advanced solar energy - would have voted fusion if it was an option (not cold fusion).

My pet energy source is the brownian motion generator - it's clearly not consistent with the second law of thermodynamics but I don't like that law very much either so it's ok with me

 

[manitu]

There is no free energy.....period.

The Second Law of Thermodynamics is real folks........get over it.

How do you explain nuclear power , then?

The power inherent in water isnt to different.. You CAN produce more energy from hydrogen than you need to seperate it from the oxygen in water. The power is already present in the hydrogen.

.manitu

 

[Cascadia]

There of course is not one "silver bullet" answer, nothing personal with the author of this thread(This is a common mis-conception among Americans), but this mentality of thinking some new technology is going to cure all of our problems is a stumbling block to actually fixing the problem. The time to act was yesterday, instead of waiting for a science fiction like solution that will allow us to continue wasting gobs of energy without hurting the planet.

The first thing that needs to be done is to reduce how much we are using, upgrade technologies that waste electricity, both at the consumer and industrial levels. For example, quit using incandescent light bulbs, don't drive a full size pick-up or SUV on your 50 mile commute to work(even if gas is cheep now), switch out those bulbs for CFLs, and that gas guzzler for a more responsible compact car, easy! By the way, maybe consider moving closer to your work?

Perhaps in the USA we could start investing in our railways like the Europeans do, and start using them to more efficiently transport goods and commodities, instead of having big diesel trucks running every which way?

Energy production needs to become more local, and more diversified, "exploiting" the strengths of the local environment(for example the sea, the wind, the sun(in several different ways), or even locally produced Bio-mass(not corn by the way). I believe that transporting energy(electricity) or potential energy(coal) all around the place has got to be wasteful, as well as polluting.

It would be wonderful if they could come up with a matter/anti-matter, or Fusion answer to our problems, something that would start drastically cutting our use of Fossil fuels, and allow us to close the Nuclear power plants for good. But some how my optimism isn't high on that prospect, and I'm afraid that it could give powerful people even more power over the people(can you sustain cold fusion in your backyard?).

At any rate, the answer to the problem really starts at the personal level, taking responsibility for the energy you use, how you use it, and what you do to change its course to a better direction.

 

[9Lives]

All are correct answers..i think it will be hevily diversified.

Untill something new and totally mindblowing comes along..maybe in a 100years ?

 

[flashog]

How do you explain nuclear power , then?

The power inherent in water isnt to different.. You CAN produce more energy from hydrogen than you need to seperate it from the oxygen in water. The power is already present in the hydrogen.

.manitu

Nuclear power comes from splitting atoms, releasing the chemical energy that binds them.
If you believe that there is such a thing as an energy amplifier, or free energy for that matter, you should go demand your tuition fee back.

 

[FirstTracks]

I think if we could figure a way to harness the methane that is expelled in commercial livestock farming we would be able to end our depence on oil, and shut the peta people up in one fell stroke.

Thanks
Stagger

Some dairy and beef farmers already use this. I checked out a methane powered generator at a farm a couple years back. Its a large operation, but it brings back a decent amount of energy, significantly cutting the costs of powering a farm.

Some people might not like the huge pond of manure it uses though...

 

[flashog]

Some people might not like the huge pond of manure it uses though...

What's not to like about a huge pond of manure?

 

[mpd]

Whoa! Someone - er, some people finally voted for nuclear power. Great ideas heard and an interesting debate to be sure...

 

[manitu]

Nuclear power comes from splitting atoms, releasing the chemical energy that binds them.
If you believe that there is such a thing as an energy amplifier, or free energy for that matter, you should go demand your tuition fee back.

Hydrogen is fuel , right?
Oxygen is the other part of combustion, right?

There is nothing magic about seperating oxygen and hydrogen by electrolysis , the method was patented in the 20' or 30' , I think.
You do it yourself , everytime you overcharge a lead-acid battery.

The question is : Can you produce more energy than you put into the process?

About cars and water.. You don't need a "power amplifier" or some bulshit to run a car on part fuel , part water.

Let us take a quick look at ignition. Those who have a Heywood can look it up
- mines on loan so going by memory. The first thing that happens is a plasma
cloud is formed by the arc consisting of super heated electron stripped atoms.
When this cloud "explodes" a ball of high energy particles is shot outward.

The highest energy particles are the hydrogen atoms - and they penetrate the
charge about 5 times as far as the rest of the particles. As they lose energy
and return to normal temps - about 5000 k - they begin to react chemically
with any surrounding fuel and oxygen particles. The effectiveness of spark
ignition is directly related to the availability of free hydrogen. Molecules
containing tightly bound hydrogen such as methanol, nitromethane, and methane
are far more difficult to ignite than those with less bonds.

During combustion - water - H2O ( present and formed ) is extremely active in
the oxidation of the hydrocarbon. The predominate reaction is the following:

OH + H ==> H2O
H2O + O ==> H2O2
H2O2 ==> OH + OH
Loop to top and repeat.

The OH radical is the most effective at stripping hydrogen from the HC
molecule in most ranges of combustion temperature.

Another predominate process is the HOO radical. It is more active at lower
temperatures and is competitive with the H2O2 at higher temps.

OO + H ==> HOO
HOO + H ==> H2O2
H2O2 ==> OH + OH

This mechanism is very active at both stripping hydrogen from the HC and for
getting O2 into usable combustion reactions.

Next consider the combustion of CO. Virtually no C ==> CO2. Its a two step
process. C+O ==> CO. CO virtually drops out of early mid combustion as the O
H reactions are significantly faster and effectively compete for the available
oxygen.

Then consider that pure CO and pure O2 burns very slowly if at all. Virtually
the only mechanism to complete the oxidization ( Glassman - Combustion Third
Edition ) of CO ==> CO2 is the "water method".

CO + OH ==> CO2 + H
H + OH ==> H20
H2O + O ==> H2O2
H2O2 ==> OH + OH
goto to top and repeat.

This simple reaction accounts for 99% + of the conversion of CO to CO2. It is
important in that fully two thirds of the energy of carbon combustion is
released in the CO ==> CO2 process and that this process occurs slow and late
in the combustion of the fuel. Excess water can and does speed this
conversion - by actively entering into the conversion process thru the above
mechanism.

The peak flame temperature is determined by three factors alone - the energy
present and released, the total atomic mass, and the atomic ratio - commonly
called CHON for Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, and Nitrogen. The chemical
reactions in combustion leading to peak temperature are supremely indifferent
to pressure. The temperatures and rates of normal IC combustion are
sufficient to cause most of the fuel and water present to be dissociated and
enter into the flame.

As can be seen above, water is most definitily not only not inert but is a
very active and important player in the combustion of hydrocarbon fuel.
Ricardo and others have documented that under certain conditions ( normally
supercharged ) water can replace fuel up to about 50% and develop the same
power output, or that the power output can be increased by up to 50% addition
of water. This conditions were investigated by NACA and others for piston
aircraft engines. It is important to note that these improvements came at the
upper end of the power range where sufficient fuel and air was available to
have an excess of energy that could not be converted to usable pressure in a
timely manner.

As a side note - Volvo released some SAE papers documenting the use
of cooled EGR to both reduce detonation and return to a stoic mixture under
boost in the 15 psi range - while maintaining approximately the same power
output. Notice - they reduced fuel and still get the same power output.

When you consider that EGR consists primarily of nitrogen, CO2, and water ( to
the tune of about two gallons formed from each gallon of water burned ), you
might draw the conclusion that it also was not "inert". They peaked their
tests at about 18% cooled EGR - which would work out to about 36% water
injection and got about the same results under similar conditions that the
early NACA research got.

What the watercar is all about , is making just enough hydrogen, trough electrolysis , to get the pure water burning.

My point in the end is: Every cheap , sustainable an decentraliced powersource or easy-made fuel is allways supressed , because the corporate powers have no way of getting a monopoly.

 

[FreedomFGHTR]

I think right now for both industrial, ag, commercial, residential, and for transportation a hybrid solar/wind electroylis of water to hydrogen is our best bet and here is why.

The first part involves capturing free naturally occurring energy. As we all know the sea levels are rising, and thats not a good thing. With desalination plants powered by solar/tidar power sources we can take the extra water from the sea and use it for all the purposes water can be used for, including for hydrolysis purposes. That helps slow the rise of the seas. Eventually that water will end up in our atomsphere which is a good thing cause it will cause increases precipitation rain! Which we desperately need, and in combination with our increased co2 levels ag production will increase helping to feed more people easier.

Back to hydrogen. The by products of hydrolysis are water and oxygen. The product of a hydrogen PEM fuel cell reaction is water vapor.

It's natural it's clean and it turns our current environmental problems into advantages. When ya get a bag of weed with seed, start growing.