help with bat guano tea

[rave420]

hello folks,
i never thought i would use this as an excuse, but i am extremley high right now, so the following came to my mind.

I bought some `Flowering bat guano` today, which is produced locally. no joke, the cave where they scrape that stuff is like a 15 minute drive away. Anyway, that stuff lists N2P17K0 on the lable, so i guess it`s good for flower.

On the lable it says i shall mix it in the soil 3 - 4 months before flowering. Well, i kinda missed the chance since i grew 12/12 from seed.
It also says the following

Directions: Transplanting : Mix in 3 tablespoonfull of Guano per plant. Water abundantly. Anticipation of flowering: Lightly scatter guano on surface of plants near the stem 1-2 months ahead of flowering and water abundantly. Flowering: Add 3 tablespoonfull of Guano per galon of hot water. Mix and let water cool down. Add to surface of plants.

Analysis:
Total Nitrogen (N) 2%
Available Phosphoric Acid (P2O5) 17%
Soluble Potash (K2O) 0%

So, is there any way i can still use that stuff for flowering? I am a bit confused by the directions. Will it work fine if i mix it with hot water and then add to the plants? next time i will mix it right from the start.

Any thoughts? Thanks

 

[memories]

You should make a tea. bubble it for 24 hrs then feed.
do not let it sit for more the 48 hrs.DO NOT USE HOT WATER!!
this recipe is for 1 gal cont.
1 tbs guano
1 tsp earthworm castings
1 tbs molasses
1tsp kelp
There's a lot u can learn here just keeping reading.I hope this help.

 

[rave420]

yeah, i have been reading around here for a while.
I don't have the other ingredients / setup needed to make oxygenated tea, so i was wondering if i can just follow the lable for this grow and be fine?

I have two choices for flowering fertilizer:
The bat guano 2-17-0 or
RainGrow BloomALong liquid bonemeal 0-12-0

so i was wondering if i can just use the products without brewing fancy teas?
Not that there is anything wrong with it, but i want to save that for next grow

 

[rave420]

okay, i tried making the tea according to the recipe, and now i know why i need HOT water.
As soon as i added 1 1/2 tbs to half a gal of cold water it immediately lumped up and formed lumps that are resistant to dissolving. I put it on a hot plate and warmed it up slightly, not enough for stream to form, at no point i would say it was HOT. That made it disolve a bit easier. Can anyone tell me if it is supposed to look like that?

here is the guano i am talking about

and here is what my "tea" looks like.

 

[loc]

IMO,i think using hot water will kill alot of the micros,that you want in the soil.I add a tsp per gallon of soil,in the dirt,at the begining of the grow,and mix it with lukewarm water,and molassus for the tea.

 

[rave420]

HOLLY CRAP!~
When i came back from work the thing was literally alive.
It made a huge mess because there was SOOOO much foam comming out the pot, i threw it out before i could think.

Next time... well... i guess i'll add some to a bottle of cold water, shake and water IMMEDIATLEY before all the hard rock-like stuff settles to the bottom again.

 

[jaykush]

if you have a candy thermometer, around 80-100 degrees is around the temps that the microbes can handle well and still dissolve some of the water soluble nutrients from the guano.

i dont see why you threw it out, as it was still good.

 

[rave420]

if you have a candy thermometer, around 80-100 degrees is around the temps that the microbes can handle well and still dissolve some of the water soluble nutrients from the guano.

i dont see why you threw it out, as it was still good.

I threw it out cause i was SCARED
No seriously, that is my first time growing using organic products, and i thought the foaming meant spoilage and bad stuff. Well, after some reading on here i know better than that

 

[CT Guy]

What are you trying to accomplish with the guano tea? Are you trying to add more soluble nutrients? Are you trying to extract the biology in the guano?

Depending on your purpose, it will determine the best way to apply the product.

 

[rave420]

well, i want to feed it to my plants as a fertilizer / soil conditioner / all around tonic.
My plants are in soil, and i can feel they are just about to use up all the nurtients in the soil. So basically, i just want to add nutrients.

I added
1tsp of worm castings
1/2tsp of blackstrap molasses
1 squirt of liquid seaweed
1/2 tsp of high P bat guano
2L r/o water

bubbled that for 24 hours and added it to my plants. There was still sludge in the bottom, i took that and spread it over the surface of the soil.

I was kind of affraid of mixing too much and shocking my plants, but hey... I'd rather feed two weaker teas that one tea that is too strong.

From what i read the mix can use more worm castings and more molasses.

 

[CT Guy]

If you just want nutrients, then just add the molasses and seaweed, and possibly dissolve the guano. Wouldn't bother with a brewing cycle or bubbling, just shake it up and apply.

If you want biology, then you will need to increase your aeration and fix your design (shouldn't have sludge on the bottom of your brewer). You'll also want more worm castings.

Just my opinion, I'm sure others will comment as well.

 

[jaykush]

for straight guano liquid. just soak the guano in the water over night, shake it every now and then when you walk by. the next day dilute 1:1 guano water: water and apply to your plants. it doesnt get easier than that and ive done it dozens and dozens of times. guano has water soluble nutrients in it. i would add the guano to the soil, then separately make a tea with the castings, and molasses.