Nutes, how much is to Much ?
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What other damage do you need? Try it at 0.8 and see which way the EC goes.
what could be worse- plant homicide. until you see how your plant responds, go LOW, maybe even lower than .8. if you ever follow the infirmary threads it very rare that the plants problem is under feeding unless its do to lockout. the nice thing about hydro is you'll know in a day or so and can always bump the ec's up.
well this is my point I started low and after a process of elimination found that the plants were way too under fed, so I bumped it up and got a instant response and have been doing so for the last couple of weeks.
Right now I'm at 3.2 EC yes thats right 3.2 EC.
no signs what so ever of nute burn, Im wondering could nutrient lock out be a possibility ? buds are packing on heaps of weight
Its just weird..... I will have a look for nute lock out in the plant infirmary , have done before with no real success.
Cheers fella's
Right now I'm at 3.2 EC yes thats right 3.2 EC.
no signs what so ever of nute burn, Im wondering could nutrient lock out be a possibility ? buds are packing on heaps of weight
Its just weird..... I will have a look for nute lock out in the plant infirmary , have done before with no real success.
Cheers fella's
What STRAIN are you growing? Blue Mystic & 2 random plants
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?) seed
What is the age of your plants? 5 week veg into day 35 flower
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? flower
What Technique are you using? flood and drain in 20L bucket
What substrate/medium are you using? Hydroton
What is the Nutrient temperature? 16-19 degrees Celsius
What Nutrient's are you using? Xpress hydrogrow
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using? 3.2 ec
What is the pH of the "Tank"? 5.5-6
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equiptment? yes
When was your last watering? 4 times a day
When was your last feeding change? bloom-micro-additional
What size bulb are you using? 2 600w
What is the distance to the canopy? 38-42cm
What is your RH Factor? very low
What is the canopy temperature?26-28c
What is the Day/Night Temp? 16c-16c 26-28c
What is the current Air Flow? alll good
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? oscillating
Is your water HARD or SOFT? hardish
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched ? couple of shade leaves have been removed
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When? no
Are plant's infected with pest's ? hell no
All thanks go to MyNameStitch and I hope she dosen't mind that I took this from her thread.
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?) seed
What is the age of your plants? 5 week veg into day 35 flower
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? flower
What Technique are you using? flood and drain in 20L bucket
What substrate/medium are you using? Hydroton
What is the Nutrient temperature? 16-19 degrees Celsius
What Nutrient's are you using? Xpress hydrogrow
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using? 3.2 ec
What is the pH of the "Tank"? 5.5-6
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equiptment? yes
When was your last watering? 4 times a day
When was your last feeding change? bloom-micro-additional
What size bulb are you using? 2 600w
What is the distance to the canopy? 38-42cm
What is your RH Factor? very low
What is the canopy temperature?26-28c
What is the Day/Night Temp? 16c-16c 26-28c
What is the current Air Flow? alll good
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? oscillating
Is your water HARD or SOFT? hardish
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched ? couple of shade leaves have been removed
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When? no
Are plant's infected with pest's ? hell no
All thanks go to MyNameStitch and I hope she dosen't mind that I took this from her thread.
BBQ
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wouldnt you lower the EC when the PH decreases?
Misturemike
Member
BCity-
is the nutrient company from Europe? like house and garden they use the 500 scale in EU(typically) to convert EC to PPMs. so at 3.2 your at 1600 PPMs, which is perfect for the last 3-4 weeks of flower if you have a hungry strain. don't let it go too much higher or you will for sure start seeing nutrient burn.
***For all those folks thinking EC of 3.2 is rediculous, remember EC (electro-conductivity) all depends on what scale they are using as conversion. most American nutrient company's use the 700 scale (EC of 3.2 would be 2240PPMs!yikes), where as companies all over Europe tend to lean twords the 500 scale, and sometimes the 600 scale. KNOW YOUR NUTRIENTS CONVERSION SCALE AHEAD OF TIME SO YOU DON'T UNDER/OVER FEED!!!!
hope this helps people,
Jah bless - Mike
is the nutrient company from Europe? like house and garden they use the 500 scale in EU(typically) to convert EC to PPMs. so at 3.2 your at 1600 PPMs, which is perfect for the last 3-4 weeks of flower if you have a hungry strain. don't let it go too much higher or you will for sure start seeing nutrient burn.
***For all those folks thinking EC of 3.2 is rediculous, remember EC (electro-conductivity) all depends on what scale they are using as conversion. most American nutrient company's use the 700 scale (EC of 3.2 would be 2240PPMs!yikes), where as companies all over Europe tend to lean twords the 500 scale, and sometimes the 600 scale. KNOW YOUR NUTRIENTS CONVERSION SCALE AHEAD OF TIME SO YOU DON'T UNDER/OVER FEED!!!!
hope this helps people,
Jah bless - Mike
Yo Ho Merengue
New member
I think you have it backwards.
EC is a constant.
3.2 is high no matter how you convert it.
Perfect for tomatoes!
EC is a constant.
3.2 is high no matter how you convert it.
Perfect for tomatoes!
Misturemike
Member
Yo Ho meregue-
"3.2 is high no matter how you convert it"
3.2 X 500(scale) = 1600 = not too high, just right.
again 500 scale, 600 scale, or 700 scale, do the math...it doesn't lie.
"EC is a constant." again sorry man, EC is not constant... (E)lectro-(C)onductivity.
-Mike
"3.2 is high no matter how you convert it"
3.2 X 500(scale) = 1600 = not too high, just right.
again 500 scale, 600 scale, or 700 scale, do the math...it doesn't lie.
"EC is a constant." again sorry man, EC is not constant... (E)lectro-(C)onductivity.
-Mike
thanks misturemike the ppm is at 1580, shot
see we use CF here In New Zealand but everyone likes to be different.lol the lady's should finish on good friday.
highdensity
New member
EC should not vary from 1 meter to another. PPM will vary depending on what scale your using. Most common conversion is .7 in US and .5 in EU.
If people use EC when comparing their nutrient strength there will be no confusion.
If people use EC when comparing their nutrient strength there will be no confusion.
Misturemike
Member
BCity-
glad i could help, hope your harvest turns out great! you New Zealanders make a great PPM meter, the truncheon blue lab! so straight forward, excellent product.
stay green,
-Mike
glad i could help, hope your harvest turns out great! you New Zealanders make a great PPM meter, the truncheon blue lab! so straight forward, excellent product.
stay green,
-Mike
thanks misturemike the ppm is at 1580, shot
lol the lady's should finish on good friday.
CF is simply EC in mS (millisiemens) X 10. A rather inoffensive conversion.
Another notation sometimes seen is EC in µS (microsiemens). µS = mS X 1000. So if you see an EC of 1473, that's in µS and translates to an EC in mS of 1.5. Another easy, painless conversion.
Standard conversions for PPM stateside are x500, X640, X650, X700, X768, X some number so stupid I can't remember it anymore.
Plants are illiterate, they don't care if numbers are real as long as they can be accurately tracked. The problem is in conversation. The sooner we all stop talking nonsense like PPM, the better off we'll be.
