DIY Aero Cloner the EZ-Cloner Replica in 10 Easy Steps!

[DIGITALHIPPY]

its cool, i know u know ur shit.

i doubt that DIY product will last along time.
talking about waste? the rapidroots i use are organic and rw is recycled, asfor your cloner u need FOAM collars, FOAM is an environmental disaster even neoprene lasts for 100's of years walmart pool noodle? made in china with oil. dosent sounds plant safe. and i know they rot quickly.

its ok, theres plenty of ways to get clones, and the cloners ok if u like hydroton.
just saying old school still works well. your talking about IBA?!?being bad? what about all that plastic and foam?

 

[CanaDan420]

The BEST thing to use in your Aero Unit is PVC......cut 1'' collars and you can RUN TWICE AS MANY.....never get any pathogens on them or anything...just put them 1/2'' down and take your cuts. The best thing to do is use a 1/2'' uni-bit which is KEY because if you use the 1/2'' regular drill it will be a bit too big, the unibit leaves it nice and snug. You can also use CPVC but Neorpone plugs do NOTHING but wind up gaining pathogens, ITS A GIVEN, and inevitable. Thats why they sell new ones, if you cut your self how ever many collars for your unit you want, and be done! Thats it....and it dont leak out the tops of them or anything.....just what I think is the VERY best way. Also using those cloning solutions I hear get slimy..lol......and I never used ANY. I was told to use a .5 of each of the GH 3-part solution and to keep my temps below 78 but now lower than 75 degrees mainly 76 and 15/15 or 15/30 Im told is best. Anyways this has been very successful for MANY people as well! Hope this helps!

 

[LiLWaynE]

its cool, i know u know ur shit.

i doubt that DIY product will last along time.
talking about waste? the rapidroots i use are organic and rw is recycled, asfor your cloner u need FOAM collars, FOAM is an environmental disaster even neoprene lasts for 100's of years walmart pool noodle? made in china with oil. dosent sounds plant safe. and i know they rot quickly.

its ok, theres plenty of ways to get clones, and the cloners ok if u like hydroton.
just saying old school still works well. your talking about IBA?!?being bad? what about all that plastic and foam?

i hear ya man...

like i said in your positive rep box that i sent ya "there is more then 1 way to skin a cat...." we all know that...

ESPECIALLY in this growing game that we all love to play...

(i.e. a flood and drain grower will tell you that his method is wayyyy better then a DWC setup...)

who's to say who's truly correct? I guess that is all up to the user...



peace on earth,

LW

 

[LiLWaynE]

now that i think about it... im going to say some negative things about the cloner versus a rockwool cube/dome propagation technique...

DIY aero Cloner uses WAYYYY more water...[then the aero cloner].. (which is technically recycled naturally i guess? but DOES cost the user money)...

and it uses ELECTRICITY [ which the rockwool cube system does not, other then low output lighting]... which also is not in abundance these days (or so they say) and also DOES cost money...

....... but if you are growing weed indoors... water and electricity go hand in hand with the whole growing game

oh another thing i thought of.... to construct one of these things takes some serious time... which is also very commonly equated to money... time=money

but again, if you are in the growing game...

you understand the time and money concept

LW

 

[Andyman]

pathongens cant live in neoprene or foam. Thats why they make them and use them!! you have to buy new ones cause they stretch when the plants get bigger. I have 100% rate with clones . 68-69f is the best to keep temp in res. algie and bad stuff gets funky in warmer temps over 70f. the 1 min on 4 or 5 min off works best. This is why they make a special timer preset this way. The big timer companys like cap d art didnt just pull this # out of a hat or something, they did extensive testing on times. pathongens grow on living or once living things like plants or wood. In your fridge do you ever see funky mold growing on something you forgot about? it grows on the food not the plastic ware. I have more clones than I can give away. Light and temp are your biggest problems. If you use a clear tote or light colored one that light can get into, then stuff grows, funk. spray your totes with spray on truck bed liner. it makes a easy clean up rubberized coteing. and blocks light. I use to have all kinds of problems with clones. now I havent lost a single one in 6 months using strait tap water (no nuits at all) withen 5-15 days depending on strains. I even stuck a fan leaf in the cloner and it has roots now. It wont ever do anything but be a big fan leaf, but it at least grew roots too. If you want your cutting to get roots you have to make it fight for nuits and water. make it grow roots looking for water. If you mist them and give them nuits they dont need to go looking for anything cause your allready giving them what they need. I also dont use a dome either. my clones only wilt for the first 2 hours then they look as good as when they were taken off the mother. the TIMER IS KEY TO THIS. IT KEEPS THEM WITH THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF OXYGENATED WATER AND DRY TIME. If I could post a pic I would but I think you have to hav so many post first or something.

TRUST ME ON THIS, I HAVE MORE CLONES THAN I CAN GIVE AWAY OR PUT INTO DIRT.
my problem now is lack of room to keep them all.
peace

 

[Andyman]

The BEST thing to use in your Aero Unit is PVC......cut 1'' collars and you can RUN TWICE AS MANY.....never get any pathogens on them or anything...just put them 1/2'' down and take your cuts. The best thing to do is use a 1/2'' uni-bit which is KEY because if you use the 1/2'' regular drill it will be a bit too big, the unibit leaves it nice and snug. You can also use CPVC but Neorpone plugs do NOTHING but wind up gaining pathogens, ITS A GIVEN, and inevitable. Thats why they sell new ones, if you cut your self how ever many collars for your unit you want, and be done! Thats it....and it dont leak out the tops of them or anything.....just what I think is the VERY best way. Also using those cloning solutions I hear get slimy..lol......and I never used ANY. I was told to use a .5 of each of the GH 3-part solution and to keep my temps below 78 but now lower than 75 degrees mainly 76 and 15/15 or 15/30 Im told is best. Anyways this has been very successful for MANY people as well! Hope this helps!

Your high temps will cause pathogens. In nature the ground is much colder than the rest of the air above it. If in the middle of summer you dig 6" deep in the soil and put your hand in it , its cool to touch. pathogens start to grow above mid 70's easyer. they can grow at many temps but cooler slowes them down. roots like it colder than the plant parts above. Growing mushrooms you really find out what temps grow dif things. your temps are great for the plant above the res. but lower is def better for the roots or lack of roots in this case. Not trying to be a dick or anthing just trying to help.

Also cant seem to post any pix. I would love to share with you all how well mine have been doing and show a few little time saving tricks.

 

[Me2]

I just use mains tap water at 75psi -5 bar to run my 60 site aero propagator.
No pump involved, just a cycle timer that controls a solenoid valve. The timer is set to give a 1 second pulse of mist with 60 second pause.
Its an option if you have reasonable quality water at a decent pressure.
With dtw it uses around 2 gal (8L) over 24 hours..a couple of toilet flushes :wink:

 

[Andyman]

I just use mains tap water at 75psi -5 bar to run my 60 site aero propagator.
No pump involved, just a cycle timer that controls a solenoid valve. The timer is set to give a 1 second pulse of mist with 60 second pause.
Its an option if you have reasonable quality water at a decent pressure.
With dtw it uses around 2 gal (8L) over 24 hours..a couple of toilet flushes :wink:

thats a good idea. how would you do it past clones though ? with nuits and all. Since Im assuming the rest goes down a drain

 

[Pipedream]

I've seen Fresh Water Mister systems used for producing clones from cuttings at the local university greenhouses, and at a couple of local nurserys. They look very similar to a standard aero-cloner like those built here, but they have a water solenoid/mister assembly mounted to the outside of the box. They give a quick burst of mist every few minutes, and the water runs to waste. No nutes are used as once roots are developed the plants are potted or moved to a hydro system for sale or additional growth. The great advantage is that temps never build up in the water, and fresh water is used every spray and disposed of so there is less of a chance for pathogens to grow.

Of course the big down-side is that the system has to be plumbed into the buildings water supply to operate.

 

[CanaDan420]

I've seen Fresh Water Mister systems used for producing clones from cuttings at the local university greenhouses, and at a couple of local nurserys. They look very similar to a standard aero-cloner like those built here, but they have a water solenoid/mister assembly mounted to the outside of the box. They give a quick burst of mist every few minutes, and the water runs to waste. No nutes are used as once roots are developed the plants are potted or moved to a hydro system for sale or additional growth. The great advantage is that temps never build up in the water, and fresh water is used every spray and disposed of so there is less of a chance for pathogens to grow.

Of course the big down-side is that the system has to be plumbed into the buildings water supply to operate.

Have kinda a curious question on how that would work.....how do you keep that water at a good temp if fresh water comes through everytime...isnt it supposed to be in the 70's or does it come out at that degree? Just wondering as I have read in a lot of places to make sure to keep temps below 78 but above 72. Anyways just a thought

 

[Me2]

Yep, the dtw is a little wasteful but not too bad.
The plumbing wasnt a problem, i installed a washing machine outlet connector with an on/off tap. The cold main water temp could be an issue, mine averages about 50F so i added a coil of extra pipe which allows the water it to warm up while its waiting.
The mist head uses very little water per cycle so it has a couple of hours to get up to temp on the way to the head.
The diy ez-cloner is good design and a lot more portable than mine :wink:

 

[THINKING GREEN]

I'm a beginner and I want to know how to transfer the clones from the aero system to the 12 pot ebb and grow hydro system, and when to do that.

 

[LiLWaynE]

I'm a beginner and I want to know how to transfer the clones from the aero system to the 12 pot ebb and grow hydro system, and when to do that.

you like to jump into big things i see...

wait till the clones have a good amount of roots then transplnt them.. make sure you keep the clones wet (handwater) for their first couple weeks in that system...

 

[THINKING GREEN]

do i use the hydro sysyem to water them the first couple of weeks or do i just handwater them. also when going from the aero system to the hydro system to i put the plant itself in the grow mediem clay rocks or do i put the clone in say a rockwhool.

 

[LiLWaynE]

go clone to hydroton.. handwater as well as let the hydro system do its work... after a week or 2 let the hydro system do its job and no more handwatering...

 

[hydronaut]

great thread! I'm going to make one of these, but with a 3.5 gallon bucket instead of a rubbermaid tub.

 

[smokadepep]

would i be able to take my cuttings out of my bubble cloner and switch them to an aero cloner? they have been in there for 3 days but havent shown roots yet but still are healthy on top

 

[CanaDan420]

I dont see why not......I mean its basically the same thing right.....only thing is in a bubble cloner dont they often sit in the water? Anyways I think they would be fine...but why not just finish them off in the Bubble Clone machine?

 

[ft100]

hey canadan, any pictures of how you make your pvc clonesites? sounds like a good idea, just cant imagine it. thanks man.

 

[THINKING GREEN]

can i use a clear plastic rubbermaid or does it need to be dark?