possibly 500 plants what should i do guys

[medmaker420]

YOU CAN'T DO IT!!!!
j/k

Man why is everyone down on this guy and his 500 plant grow?

Sounds like he has done multi plant grows and is looking for guidance and experience to expand his efforts.

I would assume those who say it can't be done, do something else, go smaller and so on simply have no experience with large grows to offer the man and instead would rather shit on his goal.

I tried to add up the watts needed for that and it made my banking account hurt for a minute.

good luck and wish I could help, most I have played with is in the low double digits lol BUT sending good karma your way regardless.

 

[walkster220]

thanx 4 the feed back guys i know i would have to babysit those them night and day but i figured with a drip system my labor would be cut 2-3 hours a day you know

 

[79towncar]

Come on 30LBs?? Off 8400 Watts? Walkster its possible to 500 plants easily indoors. But to get one ounce per plant.... Thats alittle more diffcult because you will have to veg your plants longer. I say do Ebb-n-Flow tables 6inch pots on a 4feet x 8feet table. That will make 128 plants per table. Two 1000 watt lights on movers, or 3 600 watt lights for each table. In doing this you won't need that big of a room. Do them SOG style and you won't have to veg them very long. You got this? So you need 5 tables, 640 pots, 10 lights, 10 ballasts, 5-one hundred gallon resoviours, nutrients and suppliments for 640 plants, enough mothers to cut all those clones. So about 10-12 mothers, lights for them. A way to root 640 clones, rapid rooters or EZcloners. Then you need ventilation for all the lights to keep the temperature down. Fans, a dehumidifier, an air conditiong unit to keep the temperatures down. ALOT of water a PPM meter, preferably a 3-in-one PPM, PH, Tempature reader. You will defenitly need a carbon scrubber, and Vortex fans for your air-cooled lights, an electrician to wire the whole place so you don't burn your house down. Then are you going to build all your tables from scratch? I guess so b/c your gonna spend over a grand each if you buy them pre-fabricated. So you need pumps, tubes. wood and pond liner or pre-fab tubs. You need to pick a growing medium hydroton, coco, lava rocks, a way to clean them, or a place to dump them. Also your going to need a Trimpro, or are you going to harvest all this yourself?? HAHA. You will need timers and controllers for all the lights, pumps, fans, dehumidifiers, flood resivours. And after you have everything done and all the mothers grown real big and ready to begin your gonna have unforseen problems. Maby bugs, maby nutrient burn. Then you have to dial in your whole system, pick the best phenotype for your market and growing conditions. Then after all that is done you have to figure out about security. Flir, Police knock and talks, smell, garbage, the outragious electric useage, where are you going to vent all that heat? Stick up boys, Narcotics officers, noisey neighbors. Then at harvest time you have to cut and manicure all the buds. Lets see.. one person 640 small plants... I'd say bout, ALL DAY that would take. Then dry and cure pounds and pounds, watch out for mould!!! Maby you cut your time in 3 by buying a Trimming machine, good for you. Then don't forget to cure unless you want mediiocre taste and smell. Then if you want to run this perpetual.... Well you gotta cut clones every month, or 2, or every week, to fit your harvest dates. So After about $10,000 , alot of hard work, time, bills, avoiding the law, making money................ O shit the power is out!! HAHA look i'm just breakin balls. Is it possible of coarse. Is it likely a new grower not much experence who started off this big has a high rate of sucess??? well short answer is no. What yo need to do is this... Start small, pick a method of growing and scale it way down to about 20 plants. When you have that in the bag and know what your doing what strains you like, what it takes to clone, nutrients dialed in, then work on the funding. After you have both the knowledge and the funding then you chances of sucess are much much higher. Are you gonna do it? I don't know time will tell, but would i ever do it?? No Fucking Way! haha Goodluck

 

[barletta]

Sure it can be done. With a year to set it up, not a post on IC mag saying 'what's the cheapest way to go...'.

Get a house with a 20' x 50' basement, cover the floor in medium, plant in beds with dry ferts, water with a hose.

Or rent a van/small box truck, and go take em to the woods...

 

[walkster220]

you guys dont understand i dont want 500 i have 500 popped 400 feminised ghs church and 50 nebula clones and 50 great white clones.. if you listen to everyone dictating your limits 4 you than you're right its not possible..i would be satisfied with even .5 gram per watt so im not losing i do this all the time. and i see that not even one person would consider using a flip flop 4 to cut the wattage

 

[79towncar]

so what exactly are you asking? i just gave you an idea for 500 above i suggest you read..

 

[barletta]

So what do you want to know? You have done multiple, whole house ops. How many people do you expect to be able to teach you how to go bigger?

HUGE gamble counting on the 400 femm'd beans. A certain % will throw pollen, and you are workin with 400.

 

[walkster220]

you guys are the best you tickle me and i cant believe you guys never heard of nigel and terry from the holticulture bible.. every thing else completed wiring etc a diy hood raising gadget would be nice though

 

[barletta]

Hang the lights on a pole. Hang the pole on bearings/bushings. Hook a drill to one end of the pole. 'Wind' the lights up and down with the drill. Watch ALL of the urban grower vids for tricks. You will see 100's of things you/they can do better.

 

[79towncar]

Whos talking about the horticulture bible? In my post above I've mapped out how you can run 640 plants in 5 Ebb-n-flow tables to help you. Also included all equiptment you would need and security concerns. Why would you run 500 fem seeds instead of clones? Not only are you going to get males but your not going to maximize yeild by sticking to a certain pheno... Your gonna have all kinds of phenos. If you go clones you know what to expect.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Just out of curiosity why not use the method you are already familiar with...that seems logical to me.

Otherwise Ebb and Flow is gonna be your best bet...people have success with coco, rocks, rockwool...which is best depends on your specific situation.

Good luck.

 

[walkster220]

okay im a slow typer guys ...400/460 are seedling they are vegging i have 100 hundred clones.. space to work with 2-13'x18' Rooms A\b with H.I.D Smart Flip Flop..200 plants per room..lights figured 8-10 600w per room..very carpenter competent can build anything.. was think about building 4 large beds 2 in each room with small walk way, line with pondliner tilt bed 3 degrees promote drainage..the point im trying to make i can save $1000 or 2 buy chosing a medium that would do just as good then why not ask question shoud i get slabs , or maybe 6x6x6 rockwool cubes im not buying 6 guys i am buying 400
this shit is gonna cost and how would i go about making the manifold feeding 400 plants

 

[walkster220]

some of you guys are right though especial with the fem-clone ratio every fem that i popped so far that was church over the years was female so i am not worried my beast yields yet have come from e&f but i dont want to control 5 different res when you can change to large ones feel me..but thats why im here nothing like good criticism. about 2 large res withe 2 large custom e&f Trays measuring 6'x16' holding 100 plants each

 

[walkster220]

any one familiar with the Nigel and Terry grown i jorge's bible? maybe that would help my vision to you

 

[PrimoVG]

Just out of curiosity why not use the method you are already familiar with...that seems logical to me.

Otherwise Ebb and Flow is gonna be your best bet...people have success with coco, rocks, rockwool...which is best depends on your specific situation.

Good luck.

yeah your best bet would be to stick to what you know best....

with the start up cost for an indoor op like this, I, personally, would much rather go with an outdoor grow....much more cost efective, ime.

 

[79towncar]

forget a manifold. just use a flood and drain. you have 400 seedlings? are they all female?? I don't see why you would attempt to make a manifold to feed all them plants when you can just use flood and drain tables and basically use any grow medium you want. I would forget using rockwool. Use hydroton. You don't even have to buy pots for each plant that way. You could just full the whole table with hydroton and put the plants in rows. That way you could make 4 tables 100 plants in each table. And they would feed the plants at different intervals during the day. You can put it on a timer and you could use 3 light per table for a total of 12 lights. You could also so it all in the same room and not even use the flip flop. Or just put up a barrier and use the flip if you wanted. But i really don't see why you would use a flip flop for only 4 tables?? You could even get away with 2 light per table on movers and cut the number of lights to 8 total lights and only 8k of watts. You should do a SOG flood and drain, do u understand me?

 

[midwestganja]

Ok so you're growing 500 plants and 400 of those are from seed? Yet you have vast experience and knowledge, why are you wasting your time with 400 seeds of the same strain? Where's the mothers?

This smells like BS.

 

[PrimoVG]

Ok so you're growing 500 plants and 400 of those are from seed? Yet you have vast experience and knowledge, why are you wasting your time with 400 seeds of the same strain? Where's the mothers?

This smells like BS.

didnt want to say it, but yeah

 

[walkster220]

now see thats what im talking about some feedback that would bring me down to earth when i over complicate thing cuz i get retarded at times no one ones perfect!lol
with only 4 trays why no use 4k on a flip flop 2 in each room. i have 7-100w lights and 8- 600w lights so i am just waying my options i was thinking about making a co2 room thats sealed attched to some really with a ppm3 ineach room hook som open/close electric dampers ducting inline fan booster you can control to rooms with one c02 generator feel free to help

 

[79towncar]

Midwest i totally agree but i'm giveing the guy the benefit of the doubt. Nobody would use 400 seeds... Cost a million dollars haha. Anyway no need to get technical just use 4x8foot tables you can fit 128 plants on each. No need for a 16foot table. Cut you wattage in half this way and still possible to get a half ounce per plant with almost no veg.. so you depending on how long it takes the strain to finish you can harvest all 4 tables every 2 months.