the Hand Watering coco thread

[TheGrapeApester]

I have a question, should i be adding molases to coco at all in the bloom stage or do my nutes take care of that. Right now i have a chem dawg d, super silver haze, white widow, strawberry cough, gran daddy purp, and an ak47 plant that got polllenated by a hermie giesel plant. Thats my veg room. My Flower room has three cough and a gdp and i just tripped them. Im working with a 4' head space with the light about 40 inches from the ground. I tripped my plants at about 8" and they look very healthy. Im using my tap water at .2 ec adding FNB to 1.6 and LK by the dsage on the bottle. For grow i do the same with FNG and i havent had any problems. Im hand watering all of them and i guess i just need some advice seeing as this s my first coco grow. All of the plants are in 1lb bags. Anyone who has some advice i would love to hear it and all responses will be greatly appreciated

 

[texas grass]

I have a question, should i be adding molases to coco at all in the bloom stage or do my nutes take care of that.

i always say use molasses throughout your whole grow. about 1tbls per gallon. it adds carbon, sugars, and very little nutrient/micronutrient value.

 

[GET MO]

I usually add it on the days I dont use any nutes and during the flush, sure u could use it more tho, not like the shit cost that much either..

 

[Cozy Amnesia]

The problem with hand watering coco:

WTF to do with the runoff! What is the easiest and most painless way of collecting it? It seems I have two options: (1) let it collect into one pool of slimy, stagnant poo, or (2) take the plants out of the cab then take the pans collecting the water out of the grow room and dump them in the sink and then put them back in the grow room and then put the plants back onto the pans to collect the next days water...

Any solutions?

Here's what I'm looking at now: (a broiler pan is doing the job but I will soon have to expand)

 

[GET MO]

wut I did is went to walmart, got a nice size plastic storage container, one of the long wide but kinda shallow ones, then I cut a hole in the top, then I built a wooden stand to hold the lid of a differant(heavy duty large bin) storage container about 2-3 inches above the container for the plants to sit on, then I cut a 2 by 2 inch whole in that. Its the same principles as a rez for hydro only costs all in all about 20 bucks. Im finna convert to a drip system soon, all I gotta do is hook up some hoses.

 

[alpinestar]

anyone mix in soil for extra nutes and water retention?

i like to add ffof at a 30 to 50% mix for plants and 20 to 25% as a rooting medium for clones - works perfectly

 

[bonecarver_OG]

mixing soil in will give worse results in questions of bud density and flavours/aromas.

use coco un mixed for BEST results.

 

[Cozy Amnesia]

wut I did is went to walmart, got a nice size plastic storage container, one of the long wide but kinda shallow ones, then I cut a hole in the top, then I built a wooden stand to hold the lid of a differant(heavy duty large bin) storage container about 2-3 inches above the container for the plants to sit on, then I cut a 2 by 2 inch whole in that. Its the same principles as a rez for hydro only costs all in all about 20 bucks. Im finna convert to a drip system soon, all I gotta do is hook up some hoses.

Thanks, I'm going to try something like that.

 

[Divine Cosmos]

I've got the same headache of dealing with the run-off. Sometimes, it gets so fustrating I think of packing in coco growing; but then I look at the results

I used to take her out of the tent for watering but now she's so big it's a risky mission trying to get her out. I was thinking of getting the lid of a tupperware box or something similar to rest the pot on; then have a small aquarium pump on stanby to suck out the water into a large container, then throw it out.

 

[JamieShoes]

my solution was to chop up an old bathroom trolley (has holes in the bottoms of the "baskets"... by cutting the pvc legs to the right height, I can slide a paint tray in and out from under there to catch my run off (this is based on an idea I got from Capo)

 

[JamieShoes]

sorry for the crap photo, seems my fone cam doesnt like HPS. anyways, you get the idea...each basket is 30x40 cm and can hold 4 small, 2 medium or one big pot



Capo Catcher Lite (*tm)

 

[alpinestar]

mixing soil in will give worse results in questions of bud density and flavours/aromas.

use coco un mixed for BEST results.

hand watering a sog setup can be a pain in the ass when you get to later stages (especially the fact that you cant leave for more than a day). i like the extra water retention the soil adds, but would be willing to try pure coco...
what differences in yield have you seen?

 

[#1cheesebuds]

i just thought it could be nice to start a thread with tips for growing in coco - but using handwatering and pots..

since im kind of busy i thought this could run on a question and answer basis - also if other growers feel like chipping in with their bit it would be cool.

first of with the do's and dont's:

do check ur PH! - range from 5.5 to 6.5 works really well
do make sure you use nutes specific for coco! - this will give the best results and easy of use.
do make sure you use pots big enough for the watering intervals you want to have. bigger pots means less watering.
do make sure you have some run off when watering. about 10-15% is enough.
do make sure the coco never gets dry - this is a hydro medium. watering often gives better results.

DONT treat coco like a soil grow.



growing in coco gives great results outdoors also. it slightly more expensive than soil growing - but the end results will speak for them selves. huge yields and lots of flavour!

do make sure you have some run off when watering. about 10-15% is enough. ok so what if there is no water run off or only 2-5% runnoff.
does this mean that I need to water more often. or not.

the leafs arn't droopy and the coco feels mostly wet at this moment in time. but I read that u need to water ur coco every day or 2. is this right.

Also I an new to coco. working on my 2ed coco grow.
first grow went well. but now I kinda wonder if I am doing it right.

so a point in the right direction great. thanks.
also I think the first coco grow was mostly good luck.

 

[Cozy Amnesia]

The idea is that the first 10-15% of the water that drains all the way through will carry with it the built up salts from the previous water that has dried up.

Its just a suggestion, do as you feel fit.

 

[JamieShoes]

I use the "pick the pot up and feel how heavy it is" method of determining whether my coco needs watering. When my girls are thirsty I need to water at LEAST once per day sometimes 2, and when they're not drinking lots more like 1-2 days. that said I only ever got to 2 days once and man they were LIGHT... on the slow days its more like a day and a half between waterings..


thats just me, I'm new at this and pretty much anything I say should be ignored :wink:

j

 

[#1cheesebuds]

The idea is that the first 10-15% of the water that drains all the way through will carry with it the built up salts from the previous water that has dried up.

Its just a suggestion, do as you feel fit.

ok so how much is 10-15% of water run off.

 

[Divine Cosmos]

ok so how much is 10-15% of water run off.

You can not be serious!

Check this out (_)(_):::::::::::::::::::

 

[bonecarver_OG]

hehe

i dont actually measure the run off from each pot hehe

the drain water gets collected and i think actually at the moment im flushing thru a bit more than 10% - but less is ok - it has a alot to do with how clean your water is. twice the ec in the water makes a heck of a difference in build up etc.

my tap water is EC 1.0 - !! - i mix it down to around 0,5 before i ad nutes.

many aproaches give good results. my friend lets his pots dry out pretty much complettelly inbetween waterings and it works ok. the plants CAN handle a bit fo a drought with not much trouble.

peace !

 

[TheGrapeApester]

I have a pretty seriouse question we had a power outage and we moved are four flowering plants to a window to get some light because they were on there light cycle. when the power came back on we immediatly replaced them and fixed the timer accrodingly.now here two are the two problems that i have or maby call them ?s is that the timer never clicked to its off cycle meening that the had a full day of light let me remind you that they have been flowering for 2 weeks how bad is that ? please some one let me no because i dont want hermies or if that is what happens how to fix the problem

 

[Divine Cosmos]

I have a pretty seriouse question we had a power outage and we moved are four flowering plants to a window to get some light because they were on there light cycle. when the power came back on we immediatly replaced them and fixed the timer accrodingly.now here two are the two problems that i have or maby call them ?s is that the timer never clicked to its off cycle meening that the had a full day of light let me remind you that they have been flowering for 2 weeks how bad is that ? please some one let me no because i dont want hermies or if that is what happens how to fix the problem

Just give them 12 + hours of darkness now, and they should be fine.
Happened to me a couple of times so I gave them 48 dark, just to be on the safe side.