Having a big nitrogen def, using Canna, what to add?

[passion]

Hi!
I have 4 different strains to same res. in the 6thweeks old snowgirl and supergirl. Also in the 5th week AK48 and B52, Ak48 and B52 have had an nitrogen defience more or less since 1st week in grow, My misstake, newbie.
Now its a pretty big problem. I will give you pics later.
I have Canna A+B, rhizotonic, cannazym, cannaboost and some hesistuff from an old soilgrow. What of these things could i use to get nitrogen?

Pretty funny is that sg/sw is soo dark and green (as it said at nirvana straindescription) Looks like its on 300% fertboost or something. Darker than a christmas tree! From same res.

Hope to get some help!

 

[passion]

Ak48

 

[THC123]

don't u use canna terra flores?(flowering stimulator??) that contains N , and it is the standard flowering stim fro m canna

 

[passion]

THC123, No i havent. Is that for coco? What i heard was that i can use only A+B and the rizotonic, cannazym and boost just are extras. Using them anyway as the guy in hydrostore said that it with these products will be a complete schedule

 

[TwinTurboGuy]

Are you using Canna Coco A+B? If so, they happen to have plenty of nitrogen to supplement. Cannazym also has a hint of N in there as well.

Also, a nitrogen def. is normal in later stages of flower, but since you indicated that you had it beforehand, that's usually a sign to up the dosage a tad bit or check PH for lockout. So its hard to get a nitrogen def with those nutes unless you don't have your PH in check.

I use Canna Coco A+B and at 1/4 dosage, it gives me dark green leaves which is usually a sign of toxicity. But my strains are very light feeders.

Good Luck!

 

[toohighmf]

How far are you into bloom? Do you use calmg or anything? RO or tap? What's your ppm?

 

[passion]

Thanks for inputs!
Yes A+B.
I run it at normal schedule from canna.
I now canna has extra nitrogen, can be find online but dont in my local shops badly. Cant have it home in earliest 14 days.

I have read something about spray the leafs with some nutrientmixed up water. WHat dosage an what nutes should i try for?

And again thanks dudes

 

[passion]

How far are you into bloom? Do you use calmg or anything? RO or tap? What's your ppm?

Its in the begining of week 5. But it have been like this fro the beginning of flowering.
I use tapwater with a ec of 0.6 after 24hs.No extra cal mag or anything.

 

[THC123]

no canna terra flores is for terra=soil but it also exists for cocos , it is the base of your flowering nutes(when using canna)

 

[THC123]

ok dit solme research, apparently the canna a+b is what canna terra flores and vega flores is for cocos

So you got the right stuff.

Some plants just use up more N i think , also keep an eye on your ph

 

[passion]

Yeah they certanly use more N. Ph is under control, check every day and adjust every 3-6 days. I will setup one more tank for the ak and b52s. BUt can i use more of something listed in the first post? For nitrogen. Or any other inputs?

 

[passion]

I also have a bottle of nutrients for soilgrows. With NPK 8-3,5-5 + mikro.
Could i use that for extra nitrogen? And if, how should i dosage it?

 

[TwinTurboGuy]

Again, at this stage of flower, I wouldn't add anymore nitrogen or use any additives just to supplement nitrogen. Nitrogen def. becomes more of an issue early flower or in a veg stage and less of a concern late flower.

If I were in your shoes, I'd just keep running the amount of nutes you are giving and just make sure you have your PH in check and no def. in P or K.

 

[GuerillaAk]

Hey Passion. I am running ak48 on a mixture of bcuzz bounce and bcuzz loose coco in the purple bags. This is my first time indoors. I usually gro ak48 outside so it has been pretty interesting. i have 24 plants , half of them look healthy the others look pretty shitty. they looked great for the first three weeks then started looking shitty. I have been trying to figure out what the deal is. I started with AN Monkey Juice pH 5.8 and switched to the Head formula when they started to go down hill (hooking leaves, yellowing, spotting). I wasn't using the head formula correctly so i switched to Hesi Coco and still can't get them to straighten out . I was thinking it might be my hanna pen but i have checked it and it seems to be right on the mark. I have also flushed twice for 3 days. Im am growing from seed and was wondering if some of the phenos need more or less nute than the others or like different ph since my ak seeds arnt vary stable and give me a lot of variation. right now i am running hesi at 3ml/liter in RO, 1ml/gal pk13/14,1ml/gal cal-mag ph at 5.8. Im in the 2nd week of flower and half the plants are starting to bulk up already but the others are just a pain! Is this your first time growing ak? i was wondering if you have had troubles like i am having? its so weird tho how you can treat them all the same but you always run into a few that don't like what your doing! why do they deserve special treatment?! LOL! sorry for the rambling just intrigued to see ur running ak48! don't see a whole lot of ak48 gros on the 5 forums i visit!

 

[robbiedublu]

I don't grow in coco, but those pictures look like normal yellowing for late flowering.

 

[thc43]

THC123 I think you have your mixed up your canna nutes terra is for there pro soil not coco.

Canna has "canna coco" a 1 part A/B nute for the whole grow along with there additives.


Passion
Mate all looks pretty normal hows the soil/coco root health any heat issues? To me it just looks like the plants are/ have been just slightly overfed no issue now, or its the real organic look the plants can take on with bio boost if you went full dose. Loosing the odd leaf now isnt really a problem, and often happens with some strains after heavy PK dose tend to start shedding leaves drying to a brown bone dry leaf that falls to the floor. (if not already go the PK your buds will explode use asap).


Great grow THC43

 

[Dman619]

Are you using drain to waste or a closed hydro system?