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ShapedCharge

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Hello people,

Ive got a 3x1000watt MH set-up for six pots with an auto-feed four times spread out during the duration of the lights and an auto-pipe draining to the garden. Anyway, Ive been notified by a friend that he has three of the six Amsterdam strains ready. I dont want to use three of the six pots and waste alot of nutes and water, unless it is the most easiest way.

Can someone please give me any advice about what to do, I dont want to kill them?

Cant find any information about the Amsterdam strain, any good?

Thanks.
 

ShapedCharge

New member
Haps,

Yes im a first timer. Ive got a set-up for six plants and was expecting six Amsterdam strains in the same time. I was told that Ill be recieving three of the six strains for the time being. Would it be wise to put them in my set-up right away, even though the system would be watering and nutting the other three empty pots for no reason? (keep in mind the drain system is piped to the garden, not back into the res)

Mr Tony,

Yes, two plants get 1000watts MH each and in bloom each plant would recieve one 600watts HPS in a 1.5metre wide and 2.8metres in length. If I dont recieve the other strains on time Id be using 2x1000watt MH's for the three plants with one 600watt HPS hanging below the tops of the plants and each day Id be turning the pots around so the plant gets plenty of light underneath.

I just need to adjust the feeder pump so that all the plants recieve nothing under a litre of water and nutes each four times a day for roughly about a minute each time. I know quite a few friends pulling over a pound off each plant with a similar set-up with 8-weeks grow time.

Any informationg about the Amsterdam strain?

Any advice would be great.

Thanks.
 

Mr. Tony

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4 liters of water a day?

how big are your pots.


amsterdam strain? many strains are grown there....
 

ShapedCharge

New member
PeteWeedSeed,

I appreciate your very "contructive" critisism. The plants are about one foot tall with a well developed root system that can take the lamps im using, your thinking about the distance between the plants to the lamps, different story.

Mr Tony,

Im using 20 litre pot-in-pots with Coco medium. I was advised with the plant this size to water no less than a litre, four times a day and to progressively water longer to cater for the size of the plant, Also keep in mind the amount of lights and the space provided, hot.

The strain is called Amsterdam or something similar, not sure.

But thanks anyway.
 

ShapedCharge

New member
I appreciate the help, I was only asking. This forum is for many things, and one of them is for starters or "noobs", whatever you want to call them. Speaking of which, Im multilingual which always beats the highest literacy a person might have in one language.

Most people have 10, 20 or even 30 plants under one lamp, only because they are growing much smaller in large quantities, Im doing the opposite hopefully making the plants as large as possible focussing more onto quality and gaining larger yeilds.

I find it strange how many people speak about yielding around 150 - 200 grams per plant. A few friends of mine, grow huge christmas tree like plants yielding way more in eight weeks from start to finish with an absolute basic setup with harvests every couple of months. Quite ironic.

Anyway, thanks for the advice.

:D
 
Y

yamaha_1fan

even at a foot tall, there is no reason to veg 1-2 plants per light. People will put in more plants when they are smaller, then spread them out and use more lights as they get larger


It sounds like you are using some form of To Waste system? maybe DTW Drip To Waste? and you dont want to water the empty pots and waste nutes?


Plug/cap the feed lines not being used. Maybe glue them closed, and cut the tip off when ready to use again.
 

stoney419

Member
Are you saying you think your going to get a pounnd a plant off those 1ft tall plants in 8 weeks sounds impossiable and if it gets to hot in there over 90 you yealds will really suck
 

Haps

stone fool
Veteran
Not sure about your water flow, does it all come from one res? If you block the water inlet into the three empty buckets, will it affect the flow to the three with plants? I run 12 in a 15 bucket rig, no worries, but I do not drain to waste, so there is no loss for me.

Just because others get a pound per plant, does not mean you will, some study will aid you.
H
 

Mr. Tony

Active member
Veteran
sorry but your basing what you think you will yield off someone's grow and don't really know what your doing... Yo can't even pull up some solid strain info. also the only way you'll get 1lb off each plant under it's own 600 is to scrogg the fuck out of it.


pics?
 

ShapedCharge

New member
Capn,

You're a joke, dont get emotional.

Yamaha 1fan,

Ive decided to grow just three plants, considering its my first. I bought a smaller feeder pump because my bigger pump builds too much pressure through the lines just to feed three plants, it waters like a pressure washer dropping over 2 litres per plant.

For three plants, how much 1K MH's and how much HPS's?

Stoney419,

Theres nothing impossible about it. Throughout all my posts, Ive never mentioned that Ill be getting a pound off each, shit, my plants could get 50 grams each, or all magically turn to male plants, who knows. Its my first grow.

Haps,

200litre top up tank to the 65litre feeder tank to the plants then out the door in the garden. I use Coco medium, the drained water is dirty, even with the use of the pot socks, particles manage to fall through.

I never said that Ill be getting a pound each. If a certain system gets high yields, its wise to replicate that same system.

Mr Tony,

These guys have probably never heard of Scrog or Sea Of Green. As the plants are in, Ill take pictures. I cant find strain info, nor does it really matter.

Thanks.
 

Capn

Member
Heh, don't flatter yourself there buddy.
Perhaps I misunderstood your broken english even though you obviously have the "highest literacy".

Regardless, good luck with your grow.
 

ShapedCharge

New member
You must be struggling unable to cope with such a simple sentence. What I wrote is the absolute opposite to what your assuming, if you still do not understand, heres a hint; I never said that I have "high literacy". Read carefully next time bro.

Thanks bro, all the best to you too.
 

Capn

Member
Im multilingual which always beats the highest literacy a person might have in one language.

Shaped, no matter what way I read that sentence, it seems to be pretty straight forward in its meaning. I understand that English isn't your first language. It's very commendable that you know 2 languages, I admire you in that aspect.

However the way you phrased that sentence came off, to me at least, to be holier-than-thou. I merely stated that. No need to attack my intelligence. In the case I didn't pick up on some sarcastic nuance somewhere then I apologize and retract all statements besides the goodluck.

I'm stoned, Peace out.
 

BCity

Member
Your using to much light, if there is such a thing. As long as you can keep your temperature at 28 degress C and don't care about the power bill ,then smash those girls with all those lumens .

the reason I say that is, you probably wont utilize all that light with your first grow and with out a scrog with only 2 or was it 3 plants.

It then seems odd to me that your worried about wasting money on wasted nutes when you will be wasting heaps of light to begin with.

Good luck though I mean my first grow I went silly and put two girls under 1800watt lol I got just under 3 pound but when worked out it was a waste I mean 1800watt/1334.4grams is only 1.3 gram per watt I see people pulling 1.5g p/w which is pretty mean and have heard talk of 2g p/w with c02

Peace
BCity
 

toohighmf

Well-known member
Veteran
I have bloomed out 7 mothers over 3800 watts on a suntwist(2 1000hps, 3 600's. A couple of yielders, and some that weren't such producers, and got over 7lbs... But I kinda know what I'm doing. From your posts, we know you have no idea what strains your growing, 2k in MH to veg with is total overkill for 3 plants, unless each plant is 8' tall, and 8' around. I have 8 5' moms under a 4 bulb T5 with only 3 bulbs in it(roughly 130 total watts) and I could cut 1000 clones of them. I have 1 1000 hps that vegges another 40 or so the same size...

Never heard of ANYONE using more watts to veg than bloom.
Growing trees... Takes months. I can pull a crop down in about 70 days eliminating the long veg times, by throwing 50 6"ers under a 1k to get the same or better yield.. Conserving all that energy of 18-24 hours of constant light for months.
While your vegging your 1st crop, I'll be bloomin my second in the same time duration as your inefficient method of vegging. I will pull 2x the weight you will in the same time duration. Understand why? Shut down that MH and hang the 600.... High... 3 plants under 2kw in veg.. OVERKILL!
Pick up some books, read them 3+ times, visit the boards to ask simple questions after you have general basic guidelines of what to do. Good luck!
 

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