Youngins got someting goin on

[salgjkhaf]

How long has this problem been going on?
for about 5 days
What STRAIN are you growing?
white widow
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?)
seed
What is the age of your plants?
2-3 weeks
How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now?
since they cracked as seeds
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?
seedling/vegetative
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc)
topping (topped 4 days ago)
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot)
look at pics
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?)
straight fox farm ocean forest soil
What Nutrient's are you using?
none
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
How often are you feeding?
water every 3 days or so
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?
water was hard (420 ppm) but phd to 6.6. the most recent watering was with ppm 16 water phd to 6.5What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?
see pics
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen?
see pics
How often are you watering?
every 3 days or when soil gets dry
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?
not feeding yet, just watering
What size bulb are you using?
3 23w flourescents
What is the distance to the canopy?
2-3 inches
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity)
???
What is the canopy temperature?
75-80
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range)
70-80
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
??? two computer fans
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ?
always running besides at night when they sleep for 4 hours.
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?
no fan blowing on plants
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist?
as wet as it should be
Is your water HARD or SOFT?
hard. but i recently started using bottled water with ppm of 16
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water?
Spring water from wally world
Are you using water from a water softener?
no
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched?
topped about a week ago
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when?
no
Are plant's infected with pest's?
no

so what do yall think?

 

[master shake]

looks like they want some N

 

[Weezard]

I think ya got stones, brah!

I think ya got stones, brah!

Just checked out the busted grow.
A cryin' shame, that. Nice work!

I'm just an amateur,
but these new kidz look like they are hungry and their feet hurt.
A bit more light wouldn't hurt 'em.
And it wouldn't be a bad Idea to slip a little Calmag into their drinks.


Regards
Weezard

 

[salgjkhaf]

i was thinking N too but the only problem is that they are in Ocean forest. and look how young they are! no way they already used up all the N in the soil. but what the hell... i guess ill start feeding them a low strenght lucas formula.

what do you think. 150 ppms?????

weezard,
yeah, as you can see this time around, it has got to be a lil more stealthy. but fuck the popos. i like growing. i find peace in it. cause lord knows the rest of my life aint peacefull.
and why calmag? no calcium or magnesium deficiency showing???

 

[magiccannabus]

I've been noticing something. When I have plants in pots that size too early, they fill the bottom and sides out. It was suggested to me in another thread that I pot them up just in tiny increments, but I am finding that you can actually pull the plant out, shake dirt out of the roots carefully, or even wash them gently. Then you put some new fresh soil in the bottom and place the plant back in. They seem to love it as long as the new soil is moist enough. Should be like a rung-out sponge. This avoids needing to transplant up to bigger pots so much. You keep forcing the root mass to be more compact. It tricks the plant into thinking it has more space suddenly. I am going to be doing this from now on it worked so well.

 

[SKAGITMAGIC]

i just started a white widow grow from seeds,I'll be hangin out watching your grow, please keep us posted, i'm very interested, i heard u need some good support or the buds will collapse the stalks indoors! i'll be watching.

 

[salgjkhaf]

Hmmm. Sounds at the least an interesting concept. However, last time I checked which was a few days ago, the roots weren't filling the pot yet. But I'll check again and give it another go around. I also fed em a 150 ppm lucAs formula watering last night.

I heard the same thing. Last time it came true gotta do it again!

 

[midwestganja]

Looks like its hungry and wants a bigger pot.

 

[salgjkhaf]

Good cause that's exactly what they got. Another watering and a bigger pot with fresh dirt. Gotta get tthis main cab done to get the show really on the road. In the am, it begins

 

[salgjkhaf]

quick update.

everyone is doin much better.

bigger pot and some food.

 

[magiccannabus]

No need to waste your space with pots that size man. I'm aiming to finish mine in 8 inch pots, with a maximum plant height of 38" from the top of the pot. Totally doable. I've added coco coir to my mix finally and that should help too. If you don't have any I recommend it. I love how I can't over-water them anymore, no matter how often I water them. The only thing I can do is wash out nutrients by watering too often. No more drowning roots though.... Plants the size you have could be grown in party cups all the way from start to finish. I have noticed most people seem to recommend way more dirt than is actually necessary. I wish I had known better early on. I wasted a lot of space, time, and money filling up 5 gallon buckets with soil. I'm going to be doing a lot of experiments this grow with reducing planter size. The best place for info like that is often the SOG community. They grow huge numbers of plants in the same area most grow a few, so they really need to focus on small planters. I think DrBud uses 20oz pop bottles and the small size plastic coffee cans. Doesn't take much.