Canadian Genetics VS. Dutch whats the score?

[DownSouthSage]

I was just wondering what everyone's take is on this as i think there is definately a difference and growing more so by the year.This is my first year ever ordering genetics from Canada or holland and i dont know if it makes a difference and i wanted some of the VETS to tell us or elaborate on it but i have got canadian genetics from 3 different breeders being Peak,BCSC,and Next Generation and from all 3 canadian breeders i've gotten the biggest seeds that i have ever seen.They are the size of big apple seeds.All the seeds i've ever grown and the ones from several other breeders of Dutch and elsewhere are what you would call good looking normal size cannabis seeds.But these seeds that came from BCSC,Peak,and Next generation are Huge and i just wondered is that gonna be directly related to yeild or hardiness or strength of strain or what?I mean at the very least if the seeds are that big then the seed pods of the buds have to be over sized as well to accomedate such big robust beautiful seeds.I also wondered if its got anything to do with maybe Canadians still doing some breeding outdoors and the harsh climate of Canada or what?I certainly hope big seeds= Big Buds!!!

 

[Highfromthelou]

a few years ago it seems like all I could get was Canadian pot.. it always was killer with great taste and the smell.. this was before the whole crackdown on the border wish they would let that shit flow again!! if I had to choose i'd go with the Canadian's they now good dope!!

 

[Lucy Diamond]

I'm in Canada and have had great success with seeds from Canadian breeders.Especially love Next Gen's stuff.

Not really sure if seed size has any bearing....I have planted some smaller seeds that I seriously doubted would sporut,but sure enough,they did.

 

[Dalaihempy]

How many commercial breeders live in canada chim dj any more ?, If your getting real widow or ssh or even kali mist or western winds and so on for them to be orthentic they were not made in bc but sent there and sold threw a retailer if there from bc then there hakks and not from the breeder.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Dutch Genetics?

Dutch Genetics?

Dutch genetics?

Don't you mean genetics from the Pacific Northwest, i.e. Sacred Seeds?

Or is my oral history incorrect?

Just curious as usual.

CC

 

[Dalaihempy]

Dutch genetics?

Don't you mean genetics from the Pacific Northwest, i.e. Sacred Seeds?

Or is my oral history incorrect?

Just curious as usual.

CC

No i mean dutch genetics and were was the real breeding done on large scale cali nope amsterdam yes.

xs were made in cali of lines from out side of cali ( as no cannabis lines are native to the us ) and work was made on a few cali xs in amsterdam that were things like haze and sk1.

Sacred seeds went bunk / belly up and a smart guy by the name of neville came threw and payed $ collected lines and took them back to the dam to work with and other things he had collected from other parts of the world also.


Any way what has this got to do with the post its title is Canadian Genetics VS. Dutch whats the score? .

 

[Colina]

Hi Sage,

The size of the seed ain't got much to do with much unless you're a hemp oil manufacturer or a bird or , the plants must be grown out and smoked before any judgement can possibly be made, big seeds doesn't equal big buds, and small seed can still equal large calyx, as does Haze frequently.

Hempy, if the Amsterdam breeding scene in its entirety was a single drop of water, then the Pac/Northwest breeding scene is a 3000 gallon water truck bareling down the 101 at 3am for a latenight delivery to some paranoid Haze farmer for a large tip -and that dudes been barreling down that road for at least a decade before Amsterdam even knew what cannabis was.

 

[Dalaihempy]

Hempy, if the Amsterdam breeding scene in its entirety was a single drop of water, then the Pac/Northwest breeding scene is a 3000 gallon water truck bareling down the 101 at 3am for a latenight delivery to some paranoid Haze farmer for a large tip -and that dudes been barreling down that road for at least a decade before Amsterdam even knew what cannabis was.

Yes right like cali had growers that ran 1000s of plants of a given strain to select from please you guys are to much stick to the facts if you cant then stick to the post topic lol.

Like it or not amsterdam was the place many lines from cali and other locations of the world was worked on.

appalachia mountins grows more mj than cali alone that extends from maine to Alabama has more mj than cali as im sure many other location in the us do time you guys stop beating the same old tierd sounding drum.

You are running how many cali kush lines ? lol.


You know whats even funnier marijuana is documented on east coast way before california ever became a state.

 

[Colina]

Hempy, sooner or later you will run into someone that knows what he is talking about, and will attempt to set you straight, not that you're haven it. I'm not a fan of what you call Cali Kush either, the red eyes and dry mouth is horrible with this line, which by the way is all from Colorado, not California. I work with shit that eats that crap for lunch and have for a long time. Tens of thousands Hempy, tens of thousands.

 

[Dalaihempy]

Hempy, sooner or later you will run into someone that knows what he is talking about, and will attempt to set you straight, not that you're haven it. I'm not a fan of what you call Cali Kush either, the red eyes and dry mouth is horrible with this line, which by the way is all from Colorado, not California. I work with shit that eats that crap for lunch and have for a long time.

Well i have and i did but the point here is yes some good lines came out of cali as they did in other locations from with in the us and out side of the us not cali alone and wich of the cali lines that did come out of there that went to the dam did not infact have work done on it ?.

The breeding was not done in the us on large scale it was done in the dam becouse of there laws at that time it was not for there weather or there beaches or was it for there food it was there mj friendly laws.

Haze and sk to name 2 had lots of work done in the dam.



Flying Dutchmen used to be known as Cultivators Choice, CC worked close togheter with Sacred Seeds and together they created the Skunk as we sell them these days, and keep in mind that this is one of the few seedbanks that maintain genetics from back then.

Skunk#1 might have been released by us in the 80's, it was around already for many years.....sorta under development.

I hope thing helps out a little.

amsterdammer



You think the old kali mist (i have not tryed there other vertions) or a selected supersilverhaze or neviles haze or widow or many more lines avaluble from commercial breeders that were set up in the dam breed there cant hold there own with any thing found in cali or here for that matter think agine Colina.

If it was left to some in cali alone were would haze be and sk and other lines yes you got it gone like the dodo bird.

The breeders in the dam back then need to be prased and a thank you sed becouse they the breeders that went there from the us australia and canada and from other places did this community a big favour so wen you say amsterdam you need to rember who they were and why they were there.

 

[canned abyss1]

No offense to Canada or the Dutch but the goods came from the U.S and made their way to Canada and the Netherlands. Canada claims that they have the best, but I can recall numerous times on Dead tour when Canadian Heads were complaining that all they could ever get in Canada was hash and when they would smoke the stuff that we had it would blow their minds, also I have tried the so called best weed in the world (Canada's claim) and didn't find it any better than anything we had here. Not only that but the U.S. growers are doing this on the down low. They don't have the freedom to do a thousand or more plants at a time like the Canadians or the Dutch. Even with all of this freedom and genetic selection available to the Canadians and Dutch, they are still no farther ahead genetically than the closet and backwoods growers in the U.S. Northern Lights, Bubblegum, Haze, The fabled G-13, not too mention numerous others all came from the U.S.
This is not to say that these other places don't produce incredible herb but lets give credit where credit is do. Most people were content just smoking and growing whatever land-race happened across their path, but it was the hippies of the American counterculture that began taking it to the next level by crossing various landraces and creating new varieties and then working with these new varieties to create more new varieties etc. etc.

 

[Colina]

Hempy,

Here's where you and I are different. Your's and plenty others' cannabis world seems to start and end with Holland, you have all kinds of respect for guys like Nevil etc, I do not and would rather hang with Saga Jim or Preston any day of the week. To be quite frank, besides Haze I don't think Holland got their hands an a decent plant before Adam and DJ came to town. It is painfully obvious that you have no true knowledge of the Pacific Northwest scene, why do you talk about it at all? You talk about "this community" as if we were all left to your sad fate -with an incomplete knowledge of fine cannabis and the sad delusion that Dutch weed rules- it is embarrassing already. Many of these breeders you speak of need to be called out, scoffed at a bit, maybe caned to the shins a few times, and shown the door.

 

[DocLeaf]

No offense to Canada or the Dutch but the goods came from the U.S and made their way to Canada and the Netherlands.

True says,, the genetics got spread round,, Now ,, today,, some of the best dope is grown and bred in the UK

If you nah believe us,, just ask about

 

[Deft]

Are there any places left where breeders have the legal right to breed? Switzerland maybe?

 

[Dalaihempy]

Hempy,Here's where you and I are different. Your's and plenty others' cannabis world seems to start and end with Holland,

You dont have a clue or know a thing about me or what i know or what im about so stop acting like you do i started from the time i started to grow cannabis and educated my self on the plants i grew wich were mostly seeds we found from imported lines of cannabis from asia / africa / south america and so on even hawiia and all were sativa lines but we also had ow lines here also but just like cali and most places nothings native to this country or the usa .

I think some of you in cali are the most ignorent stoners i have ever come across and had any contact with if growers / stoners acted like that here no one would bother to talk sit or even smoke a joint with you let alone shear genetics.

I know there are good people in cali but i dont know why so many poor ones show up and talk represnt cali on the boards they do cali no favours.

You have all kinds of respect for guys like Nevil etc, I do not and would rather hang with Saga Jim or Preston any day of the week. To be quite frank, besides Haze I don't think Holland got their hands an a decent plant before Adam and DJ came to town.

Yes i do have respect for neville the guys the father of the modern seed bisness and a guy that had the brains and balls to go collect seed and genetics from who ever and were ever he could and offer good lines to the rest of the growers that could not and on top of all that he is a world class breeder.

Saying that i also have respect for retailers that sell the seed now days and breeders many of us will never know of or hear a thing about that also deserve many thanks and i respect many in this community from the likes of sam who i may not agre with on things to a newbie germinating there first seeds.

The ones i dont respect are the scammers and liers in this community but that is best left unsed who deserve nothing but a fk you from every one in this community for things like trying to change history and facts to pimping hyped polly hybrids that seam to come more from cali i mite add now days not amsterdam.




[/QUOTE]

It is painfully obvious that you have no true knowledge of the Pacific Northwest scene, why do you talk about it at all? You talk about "this community" as if we were all left to your sad fate -with an incomplete knowledge of fine cannabis and the sad delusion that Dutch weed rules- it is embarrassing already. Many of these breeders you speak of need to be called out, scoffed at a bit, maybe caned to the shins a few times, and shown the door.

The only one in delusion here is you Colina you act like you know it all yet you can not say what is true and fact that is many line some collected from the us and that also means cali was taken to urope and breed grown out worked with and were things like haze had the real breeding done.

 

[hoosierdaddy]

We in the US are in clandestine mode. You do not get to know all about us, Hempy. And since the club is a hushmouthed operation from top to bottom (save for some in CA), how can you possible imagine you know much at all about anything that happens here?

You mentioned collecting genetics even fro Hawaii....well just how many indigenous mj plants come from Hawaii? And just what nation is Hawaii a part of?

I just think you need to cool your jets every once and awhile, as there is no way in the world you could know even half as much about the US mj scene, as most all of us know about your Dutch scene.

Oh, and I think if we counted up fairly, BC would probably blow the amount of grows in the whole of Holland away, all by themselves. Counting CA grows, ADam is a midget.
A novelty at best.

 

[Dalaihempy]

hoosierdaddy no offece but im not wasteing my energy on your replie.

Canadian Genetics VS. Dutch whats the score? Rember what was the post topic.

This was my replie.

How many commercial breeders live in canada chim dj any more ?, If your getting real widow or ssh or even kali mist or western winds and so on for them to be orthentic they were not made in bc but sent there and sold threw a retailer if there from bc then there hakks and not from the breeder.

If you can not handle the fact that breeding was done on large scale in urope by australians americans canadians and many others from around the world then i think its tuff to be you lol.

Genetics from the us and that means cali to and other parts of the world was taken to amsterdam were they were breed large scale selection done and so on there facts you jokers can not change.

 

[DownSouthSage]

Is there anything that can be asked or discussed in here that doesnt turn into shit???Reminds me of a 3rd grade gossip, unh uh...uh huh contest.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

Hempy,

It is painfully obvious that you have no true knowledge of the Pacific Northwest scene

Word.

And then some.

 

[Clackamas Coot]

You mentioned collecting genetics even fro Hawaii....well just how many indigenous mj plants come from Hawaii?

From what I understand that would be "0"

But I could be wrong.