GarbageEnzymes

[ThaiPhoon]

That's right, enzymes from garbage! Most of us here probably have some experience in herding our own microbes and fermenting various plants for different things. I stumbled across this garbage enzyme thing a few months ago. I have brewed some and have been using it for about a month. My plants look really good. I still use compost teas and some EM-1 based concoctions as well.

I just thought I would share this with the community. The Doctor being credited with "discovering" this method is from Thailand. The first English article about these, I think, was published in a Malaysian newspaper...Anyway, I have cut and pasted most of this info from other websites. If you Google "garbage enzyme" you'll find this stuff and more...

Garbage enzyme has many uses for the environment, agriculture and even in homes.

In agriculture, garbage enzyme is used:
- to reduce the usage of chemical fertilizers
- to keep the farm free from insects and infections
- as a soil fertilizer for vegetable growing
- as a natural pesticide and herbicide
- to convert sandy land to fertile farm land
- keep the air cool and clean in the farm atmosphere
- clean the dirty and impure water in the farm

Usage


Dilution Ratio
Enzyme for fertilizer 1:100 / 500 / 1000
Enzyme for insecticide 1:1000
Enzyme for pesticide 1:100
For anti odour / air freshener Dilute 200x
As plant hormones to get more flowers and fruits Dilute 500x

When the enzyme is diluted with water, it becomes more effective.

To make these enzymes you ferment the following for three months in an airtight plastic container. You should release the gas each day for the first few weeks.
1 part brown sugar or good old molasses
3 part kitchen scrap (fruit peels. veg peels, seeds etc,)
10 part water

I have only seen good things from this. This stuff can also be used around the home for cleaning and washing fruit/veg pesticides away.

I hope some of you try this out...Nevermind the claims of fighting global warming. The Earth is actually cooling due to lack of sunspot activity...

Peace and Happiness

 

[OldBastard]

mmmmmmmmm

mmmmmmmmm

I don't know if this qualifies, , but I have vomiting problems from a couple different chronic diseases, and since my initial soil runoff is around 7,
I figured I'd hurl into the soil bed I maintain.
I know this: microbial activity (this is part miracle grow, 2 parts great yard topsoil, and sand/perlite ) has been good, with no smell, and everything smelling
like forest dirt.
Microbes WILL do their jobs as long as you don't overwhelm them.

I LOVE the natural smell of dirt, and you can't go wrong with it.

 

[OldBastard]

ALSO.....

ALSO.....

Also, I listened to a guy on am coast to coast talking about catastrophic
earth changes coming soon due to Pole Shift.
Sounds pretty bad.
But hey we ALL go through that one way or another, eh?

BOYCOTT ISRAEL!!!!!!!!!

 

[MrFista]

Thanks for this Thaiphoon. Could you share a little of your own practise with this stuff and how it works/compares to other ideas.

 

[sophisto]

I heard you discussing this on another thread...If I remember right ??? Really interesting, Seems easy enough to make, and to play around with.

Like the one before me, what has been your personal experiences with using it, and how have you used it ???

Thanks.

 

[OldBastard]

(sorry, was drunk!)

 

[ThaiPhoon]

I have been spraying this stuff at 1:100 to keep spider mites away. I have always been fighting to keep them away. The enzymes work the best of anything I've tried. I spray at least once every 2 days. Sometimes more than once a day. I am not very scientific in my growing style.

I have tried spraying on my flowering clones outside, the few mom's indoors and the fresh cut and rooted clones as well.

I have seen no adverse effects at this dilution ratio.

Next time I make some I will use more exotic stuff I have available. Like coconuts noni mangosteens dragon fruit etc. along with cannabis leaves neem leaves and other beneficial plants.

 

[OldBastard]

Thanks, I'm going to be trying this with my soil box. wasn't kidding tho about the vomit.
actually did this 3 or 4 four times already. Not trying to, but couldn't make it to the bathroom.

 

[OldBastard]

I don't know if this qualifies, , but I have vomiting problems from a couple different chronic diseases, and since my initial soil runoff is around 7,
I figured I'd hurl into the soil bed I maintain.
I know this: microbial activity (this is part miracle grow, 2 parts great yard topsoil, and sand/perlite ) has been good, with no smell, and everything smelling
like forest dirt.
Microbes WILL do their jobs as long as you don't overwhelm them.

I LOVE the natural smell of dirt, and you can't go wrong with it.

but I wasn't kidding about this. I didn't do it on purpose. Where I sleep
and have computer is where I grow too, and I just couldn't make it to the toilet.
I use shrimp shells thru a coffee grinder, broccoli scraps and what ever else
that doesn't contain preservatives in my soil box.
I allow tiny plants from the top soil to sprout along side my babies too.
Don't know if it's optimal, but I just like seeing more life coming up where it wasn't before, you know?

 

[OldBastard]

That's right, enzymes from garbage! Most of us here probably have some experience in herding our own microbes and fermenting various plants for different things. I stumbled across this garbage enzyme thing a few months ago. I have brewed some and have been using it for about a month. My plants look really good. I still use compost teas and some EM-1 based concoctions as well.

I just thought I would share this with the community. The Doctor being credited with "discovering" this method is from Thailand. The first English article about these, I think, was published in a Malaysian newspaper...Anyway, I have cut and pasted most of this info from other websites. If you Google "garbage enzyme" you'll find this stuff and more...

Garbage enzyme has many uses for the environment, agriculture and even in homes.

In agriculture, garbage enzyme is used:
- to reduce the usage of chemical fertilizers
- to keep the farm free from insects and infections
- as a soil fertilizer for vegetable growing
- as a natural pesticide and herbicide
- to convert sandy land to fertile farm land
- keep the air cool and clean in the farm atmosphere
- clean the dirty and impure water in the farm

Usage


Dilution Ratio
Enzyme for fertilizer 1:100 / 500 / 1000
Enzyme for insecticide 1:1000
Enzyme for pesticide 1:100
For anti odour / air freshener Dilute 200x
As plant hormones to get more flowers and fruits Dilute 500x

When the enzyme is diluted with water, it becomes more effective.

To make these enzymes you ferment the following for three months in an airtight plastic container. You should release the gas each day for the first few weeks.
1 part brown sugar or good old molasses
3 part kitchen scrap (fruit peels. veg peels, seeds etc,)
10 part water

I have only seen good things from this. This stuff can also be used around the home for cleaning and washing fruit/veg pesticides away.

I hope some of you try this out...Nevermind the claims of fighting global warming. The Earth is actually cooling due to lack of sunspot activity...

Peace and Happiness

And I'm with ya on the "global warming political scam". Sun spot in '08 was the lowest in quite some time. 2012 is gonna be something, but it ain't gonna be planet "x".

 

[marali]

Another easy homemade stuff. I'm on it.

 

[Scay Beez]

Wow! I've been slacking hard on visiting this board. Whatsup thaiphoon?

- sbz

 

[JackKerouac]

This sounds more like compost tea from the ingredients, but it is weird they include fruit peels, because citrus is typically not compost friendly.

 

[surfer rosa]

Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm the first to admit I know nothing), but isn't this just leaving food to rot anaerobically? If there's no way of controlling what bacteria/fungi/yeasts grow in this, how do we know that the beneficial microbes will take over, as opposed to e. coli or something.

 

[ThaiPhoon]

Well, I don't think it is rotting. It is a fermentation. I guess it is like a compost tea.

I have made a consumable variation of this using red dragon fruit and lemons, using honey as a sugar source.

This stuff takes about 3 months to ferment, It does not smell foul at all.

I mix a teaspoon of the garbage enzyme in a litre of water. I give it to many types of plant including cannabis on a weekly basis.

I believe bacteria may die in this brew, because it does smell a bit alcoholic. I haven't tested it or anything, other than using it in the garden...

 

[maryjohn]

I read your claims of keeping away spider mites with skepticism. I also am using anaerobic fermentation and I am using the runoff for some of the same purposes you listed, but I don't for a minute believe it can control the borg.

I do believe healthy plants get fewer infestations, but that's as far as I go. There are no miracles.

 

[Scay Beez]

surfer rosa: The idea is that a certain food source will attract a certain microbe or group of microbes. Like using rice to make lacto bacterii or brown rice flour to make Trichoderma harazium.

Jack_Kerouac: Think ph down... citric acid... safe stuff in correct amounts.

maryjohn: True just spraying plants probably won't completely rid a gardening area of spidermites, but it does help. They like dry hot environments so creating a wet microclimate on the leaf will definitely help. Correctly using neem oil will get rid of them. Keep in mind that mites can be hosted on other plants around the garden or even jump on the gardener him/herself.


- sbz

 

[ThaiPhoon]

About the spider mites, It could be that something else was in combination with this garbage enzyme that keeps them away. I was also spray neem extract and a chili/garlic spray. I had been using both before I used garbage enzyme. It wasn't until I started using the enzyme in the spray that I noticed the mite numbers drop. I didn't mean to mislead.

 

[Green&Gold]

Hey All,

I was doing some googling on this subject and found a blog post in english, including pictures, by someone of the garbage enzyme making process. I hope this helps illustrate the procedure. I will be starting my own today with some local apples peelings.


http://pegasuskl.wordpress.com/2009/03/07/fruit-peel-garbage-enzymes/

Fruit Peel / Garbage Enzymes

Posted by pegasuskl on March 7, 2009

I have never though about making fruit peel enzymes / garbage enzymes because I thought it will involve a BIG drum and having to exposed myself ( and my home) to some unbearable odour during the process . But after finding out from AhChern that I can actually do a small scale ‘production’ with the cookie container ( and one day when I was feeling extremely guilty about the amount of rubbish that I am generating), I decided to give it a try.

The ‘recipe’ is very simple : 10 part water : 3 part peel : 1 part sugar . You will need the following :

-water

- fruit peel ( fruit skin or any fruit or vege waste , I have used : watermelon, cempedak, orange, rambutan, duku, dragon fruit, cucumber, capsicum, pineapple etc)- you can use a mixture of everything, or if you decide to be a purist, you can choose to prepare separate containers for different types of fruits.

- sugar ( any form of sugar, black, brown, white, cane- whichever is cheaper)

-Clean plastic containers (now would be a good time to start making the enzymes, as after the new year, I am sure most household would have some plastic cookie containers lying around somewhere)

-Ruler

-Marker



How to go about it :

1. Use the ruler to measure the container, leave about 2-3cm distance from the lid for the breathing space and divide the container into the following proportion 10:1 :3 ( you can weight the 3 ingredients according to the proportion too, but I find just a ‘rough’ measurement using the volume is sufficient )



2. Fill the container up to the ‘10′ mark with tap water

3. Add sugar until it makes up to the ‘1 part’ portion, agitate /stir the solution until all the sugar has dissolved



4. Add fruit peel until it makes up to ‘3 part’ portion, if you do not have enough fruit peel at the time, you can add to the container any other you have some. (but the ‘counting of the duration’ will start from the date that you meet the ‘3 part’ mark)

NB1: surprisingly, although it’s sugar solution- there are no ants around the containers



5. I suggest for the first few days, stir the contents every day ( I use a chopstick) main reason is to get all the peels submerged and also to release the gases as you remove the lid and after ~ 2 weeks, the peels will generally stay below the water level and you may choose to stop the regular stirring.



After about a month , I stir the contents once a week- mainly also to ‘check’ the progress- you may probably notice some yellowish/whitish (yucky) looking layer on the water surface, but after stirring, this will disappear.

NB2: the emitted smell can be pleasant-depending on the fruit peels that you use. The one using cempedak smells heavenly and for one other container where I had added 1 piece of a dried up capsicum, the capsicum smell overpowered the rest in the container)

6. the enzyme will be ready for harvest in 3 months time ( minimum)- you may leave it longer. The top layer will be clear and the bottom layer will be the ’sediments/ peels’



7. Decant the top most layer ( which should be clear) into a container, and you can use a plastic sieve to separate the peel from the liquid, or use a ‘towel’ , you may need to filter a few times to get a clear solution. ( Ahcherrn told me that the ‘used’-peel makes good fertilizer-but I think my potted plants didn’t react positively to it. ), Note: in the pix above, the 1st filter and the 2nd filter is made from different peels, hence the different colour of the solution



8. The verdict -maybe due to the overselling of the benefits that it can clean so well against oil, stains , repel insects etc so, the effects was a bit of a disappointment when I first started out but after using it a for some time, I think the kitchen counter does look a bit shinier, the marble floors cleaner too and of course, there is the ‘feel-good’ factor of not creating more garbage for DBKL and less of chemicals discharge into the waterways.



9. AhChernn recommend -For moping flours, use a capful ( mineral water cap) of enzyme into a pail of water- ahiger concentration results in the floors being a bit ’sticky’