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First grow: WaterFarm 600W MH/HPS, HomeBox XL, CoolShade, 25 gallon res. [PICS]

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manwithnoname

you rock Fred! I might just have to take that IT leap on my next grow :rasta:
 

SumDumGuy

"easy growing type"
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I'm loving it

I'm loving it

Hi fred_light,
I'm loving everything about your grow. Starting off with the attention you paid to the room. I know you're gonna do great because you want it to come out great. Equipment is top notch and that's always a great starting point. Not that a ghetto grow can't compete with a high tech cause I've seen them produce personally. I'm loving it. I'll be following this one.

Note: Nah man - a ghetto grow can't beat that setup you have ;-)

I had to write it here because I can't posts any more comments till my 24 hours are up :-( I can't tag either but seriously man I'm watching this closely!!!
 
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Hi.

SumDumGuy: Thanks man. Yes, some ghettos will always be better than mine :)

manwithnoname:

Okay, finished the code cleanup. It's not the code I use, but a mock-up that will actually work (I have not tested it, but it should work or close to it). The lines that start with # are comment lines. They contain info about what the prigram does. You can always leave it in your program as it will ignore the parts with #. The first line however has a # as well. That is not a comment line, it tells the program where perl is. On Active state perl you point it somewhere else (read the documentation and look for examples). See what to write there for ActiveState perl. It can be that this is way to weird for you, or you can go "Hmm, I sorta get this...". If you are in the second group, I will say you can do this.

#!/usr/bin/perl

# Import something called a library so that perl understand telnet protocol
use Net::Telnet;

# Set your max and minimum temperatures here (this is degrees Celcius)
$max_temp = 26;
$min_temp = 22;

# This line only records what time the script started
$start_time=localtime;

# Okay, here is some programming mumbojumbo. We want a program that runs all the time, over and over again.
# So I tell this program to repeat and repeat (called: while) until untrue (the (1)).
# In programming 1 is always true, while 0 (zero) is always untrue.
# Since the "while" will continue to repeat until 1 is untrue, it's gonna have to run for a while :)

while (1){

# This line records what time it is last time script is run
$time_now = localtime;

# This is mumbojumbo again. A sub is a procedure. A procedure does not run until it is called apon.
# Later on I will call this sub so I get the temperatur from the powerswitch.
# The code inside here is also a bit "tricky". I first give a command to the powerswitch "envmon"
# to get the output form the switch.
# Then I look through all the lines returned for a bit that says "Deg", and take the number in front of it.
# It then returns the temperatur back to the place that called this sub.
sub get_temp {

@temp_number = $telnet->cmd('Envmon');

foreach $number (@temp_number)
{
$temp = $number =~ m/.*telt\s*(.*) Deg/;
$temp = $1;
}

return $temp;
}

# Again a sub. Called when I want to turn shit on. It sends turn on outlet 2 and 3 to the switch. And after each one
# writes that it did it.

sub turn_on_equipment {
$telnet->cmd('on .a2');
print "Turned on heat\n";
$telnet->cmd('on .a3');
print "Turned on fan.\n";
}

# Same as above, but to turn stuff off.

sub turn_off_equipment {
$telnet->cmd('off .a2');
print "Turn off heat\n";
$telnet->cmd('off .a3');
print "Turn off fan\n";
}

# Okay, first part of the program. This is run before the subs actually. Since the subs will not run before they are called upon.
# The subs must be "declared" before they are called upon in a computer program. So thats why the script starts with them.
# But it is the part below that is first "triggerd" when the while loop runs once more.

# Here I connect to the switch with the telenet protocol. I say it should timeout if no conntact is esablished within 10 seconds
# and that it should look for the ":" sign before it tryes to log inn with username/password.
$telnet = new Net::Telnet ( Timeout=>10, Errmode=>'return', Prompt => '/\: $/i');
# What IP address to talk to.
$telnet->open('192.168.1.101');
# Write username/password
$telnet->login('admn', 'admn');

# Okay, here we should be connected to the switch, so lets call the sub that gets the temp. Code in the sub named get_temp
# is now excecuted. And remember that it will return the temperatur. I store this "returned" temperatur in something called a
# variable (shoe box), so when I need it later I will just call upon it.

$temperatur = &get_temp();

# I now check to see if temperatur returned to me is higher that max temp (remmeber you put this in a shoe box all the way on the
# top of this program.
# Note that I also count how many times max temp has been reached. If reached 13 times or more, well then call the sub turn_off_equipment
# which will turn outlet 2 and 3 off. Since that part has not been called yet since it is a sub.
# I also clear the counter for how many times it has been reached.

if ($temperatur >= $max_temp){
if ($top >= 13){
&turn_off_equipment();
$top = 0;
$bottom = 0;
}
$top ++;
print "Temp is more than $max_temp\n";

}

# Same as above, but I check to see if temp is lower than min_temp (minimum temperatur set in the beginning).
elsif ($temperatur <= $min_temp && $temperatur > 1){

if ($bottom >= 5){
&turn_on_equipment();
$top = 0;
$bottom = 0;
}
$bottom++;
print "Temp is less than $min_temp\n";
}


# You reach here if the temperatur measured is between max and min temperatur.
else
{
print "Temp is fine...\n Started script: $start_time\n Time now is: $time_now\n";
}

# Now it is time to disconnect from the powerswitch. End telenet session.
$telnet->close;

# Now go to sleep for 5 seconds. When you wake up go and see if while is untrue. Guess what, it's not. Since 1 is always true.
# So I guess we run again.
sleep(5);
}
 
I thought I had already posted here but I cant find it...(Damn pot smokers)

Either way I love what you have going on. I too have a lady that isnt super happy with the deal I have either. I try and get her involved as much as possible that way she gets in on the action (I pretend I need her help....ya know cant do it without her and such) Shes way better now about it.

But hey 1 plant is better than no plants.

Also I love how you are using the help of the computer. Im gonna have to read through the rest of the thread a little closer and then Ill have some more questions. Im gonna tag this one, Im interested to see how one plant under such good conditions will turn out.

Looks like you have lots of room to expand!!

Keep us updated.
 
Young Giver: Thanks. I will keep you posted.

hehateme19: 1 plant is ALOT better than none. Infinite better actually :jump:
I am curious myself. I know that it won't be the equipment that is gonna stop this grow. But since it's the first grow my expectations aren't to high on the result. As long as I get through and don't kill her, I am gonna be a happy camper.
The place to expand is certainly there :) But I grow for the love of the plant and the result :rasta: It's not about money, but where I live there is not such thing as good weed if you don't know a grower. Expanding is not part of the plans.

The lady is good about all this. It even has her blessing and some enthusiasm. I will keep it that way. Glad it's working out good for u2.


Dubwise: Thanks for stopping by and the kind words.

For the update-eager people:

Pics taken today. 4 days since the re potting. They are still drinking of the liter water (1/4 gallon) I gave them then (no nutes). The fanleaves are certainly getting bigger, and the first 5 leaf I saw 4 days ago is now the biggest part of the plant.











Today I am gonna work on getting the waterfarm/res setup going.
 
Update time.

It's now 3 days since last pics. Here is an update.

The pot is now "dry" and she has taken up the 1 liter (1/4 gallon) she was given 1 week ago. Time for some more. No nutes this time either since she has only been 1 week in the new soil. Next time she is gonna get a dash.
Small curl on end of some leafs, probably because she want's some water.








Mugshot today:



and 3 days ago:



Happy with the progress. She is going under 600W MH today or tomorrow. My plan is to give her the MH for 1 week or 2 before I take the clones.
 

thunderpob

Member
Hey there Light.

man, you gotta love the high tech grow!!

moving to 600w MH huh....i hope you will be moving the light away a bit or that baby is gonna burn!!!

Good luck, i am pulling up a chair
 

SumDumGuy

"easy growing type"
Veteran
Update time.

It's now 3 days since last pics. Here is an update.

The pot is now "dry" and she has taken up the 1 liter (1/4 gallon) she was given 1 week ago. Time for some more. No nutes this time either since she has only been 1 week in the new soil. Next time she is gonna get a dash.
Small curl on end of some leafs, probably because she want's some water.








Mugshot today:



and 3 days ago:



Happy with the progress. She is going under 600W MH today or tomorrow. My plan is to give her the MH for 1 week or 2 before I take the clones.

She is looking GREAT!!!!!!!!! Damn looks like 2 plants in one. Very nice my friend very nice.
 
Hey there Light.

man, you gotta love the high tech grow!!

moving to 600w MH huh....i hope you will be moving the light away a bit or that baby is gonna burn!!!

Good luck, i am pulling up a chair

Yeah :) I knew I wanted a "tech" grow from the start. Lately I have written a program to control humidity. I have a temp/RH sensor, and when I measure under 41% RH I turn on a humidifier (Connected to controllable powerswitch). Humidifier is one of those cheap 1 gallon, res for 24h thingy's. And it works great. Since I turn off at 61% humidity, I refill every 2 days. I would say this "ghetto"-style humidifier is a lot cheaper than a humidifier with built in humidity control. And for me and my needs it works great. And helps reduce the overall cost of the room, and to justify the investment in a powerstrip that's computer controllable (even though I got the powerstrip for free :)).

I also have a better room because of it. The alternative would be to have the humidifier fill the Homebox XL above 61%, until the thing turned it self off and/or ran out of water. Then the humidity would drop quick and below 40%.
If I later on in flowering should happen to need to humidify the air, I will stopp it at 40 something and not exposing bud to 60%+ humidity.

My grow is now dialed in with a +- 1 degrees Celsius. And 40%-60% humidity. My plant is looking really happy :)

Yes, I was aware that a 600W MH would be to powerful if I kept her close. So I moved her a little less than 2 feet from glass (55 cm). Thanks for the advise. I have lurked enuff to see people do that mistake. And it costs.
I am really careful with her. I try not to stress her at all. Slow changes and stuff. She is also a re-veggie, so I stamp her with a troubled childhood :)

I am posting PICS tomorrow, when I have more time.
But I have a teaser:

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SumDumGuy

"easy growing type"
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Fantastic!!!!

You know she's certainly becoming the lady quite fast. Definitely admiring those alternating internodes. Very nice my friend!!! Also loving that dark green. This ones gonna hit hard!!!

Pinch the two tops you have. Just till you hear or feel the pop and since in soil/type medium just let heal for 3 - 4 days and just watch what happens - LoL you're gonna be like WTF!!! Repeat this step every 4 days to the new top. ;-)
 
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Nice room you have got going there .Pulls up a chair for the show ,what strain is it you are growing .

Hi.

Thanks. I am looking to get a good setup going pretty "fast".

The strain is a sativa (The new fanleafes are 7 tagged already) I am told. So far the fanleafes have been a bit bigish, so I guess there are some indica in it as well. All I know is that a friend of a friend smoked some on a vacation in another town. He either got some seeds, or found some in the weed he smoked (That's how little weed that floats around here :). That strain was supposedly grown in that area, and was a "classic". My friends, friend then planted the seed and got a plant. He kept her in a gettogrow, and she pulled through even if she had a ruff first couple of months. She was then treated better and repotted very rootbound into larger and larger containers. Until she was flowered in a 25 liter (6 gallon) container and kept in flower for a long time. She was 9 months in the end. I have smoked her, and she is _fine_. A bit like a Haze at Greehouse. A good one to compliment the stash :)

I guess/hope/dream that she is probably grown from a decent seed and that she is grown in that area because of her good genetics. We will see I guess :)

PICS coming tomorrow. She has grown like crazy, after I gave her water and a small dash of 3 part GH nutes a couple of days ago.
 
Time for an update.

It's now 3 days since I watered 1 liter (1/4 gallon) and the pot is dry. I am a bit anal, and this is my first grow, so I actually weight the pot before and after watering. That way I get some knowledge about when it's dry and how dry.

First liter took the plant 10 days to drink. Next liter, 4 days. Today it's only been 3 days since last. She is growing :)

Also took some clones today. Since this is a hydro grow, and it says so in title, I am eager to get her into the waterfarm system. Right now she is in soil, and that's not right :)

I took the 3 lower branches (you can see on plant PIC in end that she a bit light at bottom.). And cut the first straight of the plant. I then stripped some lower leafs on clone away, took another cut above an "elbow", this cut was a bit angled so to get a "longer" cut surface. Dipped in Clonex about 1 cm up (1/2 inch-ish), and put in the rooters. I am not sure what the rooters are called, but I believe they are Jiffy pots. This may suck ass, but since this is my first clones ever I am not predicting a bright future :) Even though they are under 600W MH (1 meter, 3 feet away, and not under reflector). If you guys say they suck I can get a hold of Rapid Rooters I believe.

EDIT: Something is wrong with PIC update right now. Sorry for the HUGE files. I have taken most away and leave 3 PICS for enjoyment :)

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And PICS of her:

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SumDumGuy

"easy growing type"
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hey fred_light
Okay now that plant looks great and now you have more identical plants to show for it. Man I am so gonna be eye-balling this cloning process. I always fuck it up. It looks like you've been growing for years and the plant still looks great. She looks like you barely touched her - still nice and full ;-) Excellent!!
 
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