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Core

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i'm quite shure these pics above have no signs what so ever of TMV ..these marks are all nutrient or bug related...:2cents:
 

REZDOG

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sniffs said:
So this virus can spread to all your other plants right? Because I first saw it on my BlueBerry(who I chopped a few days ago) and now I'm seeing it on my BerryPurple's and I think it might be on the freshly potted clones from my 2 BerryPurple girls. I'm also seeing it on my Kushberry's and Euphoria now also(who were all right next to the BB that had TMV). I really hope this doesn't spread from touch or being next to other plants because then ALL my girls have it(Kushberry, Euphoria, BerryPurple, Original Haze x Skunk#1, Gonzo#2, Willy's Wonder, and DSD's). If this is the case then it really makes me want to cry :badday:! Here's some pics of the BerryPurple clones I took(I know it looks like some kind of bug got to them, but i've sprayed them with neem oil and they have had the no pest strips RIGHT in the veg tent the clones are in for a few days,so I'm almost positive it is not bugs.):









Hey Bro,
Take this over to the Grow Forum and it'll sort right out for you....
That ain't TMV.


Best of luck.
 

littlebud

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lol so now every growers mistakes are tmv related...easy like that i guess keeps one from having to look within about being bad parents lol
 

G4life

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The Above plants Do Not look like the TMV virus....I'm gonna go to my little Bro's house next weekend to take some snaps of the ChemD TMV virus...

The pics that Darkstaralive posted of his ChemD BX1, ChemD BX2, etc., on page one is what your looking for....Those are what a plant infected with the TMV virus look like....I was at my Bro's house a few weeks ago and I was easily able to spot which plants were the ChemD in his Veg room becuz of the fucked up leaves...I always thought myself that the deformed fucked up leaves were just a trait that the ChemD had....We will see if it spread to other strains over there....The ChemD is just too good to trash so maybe I'll have him just keep them seperated from his other ladies and use different blades when taking cuts...~ogr
 
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Just try this. Take an infected leaf, rub it on the leaf of a healthy plant. If its a virus the shit will spread to the healthy plant. If not you can be pretty sure its nute. related. Its worth a shot.

sniffs, pretty sure thats light burn.
 
K

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and so begins a who has better shit war again.. drop the fucking shit no need for it... not in this thread at least.


STFU retard
:bashhead:
 

stinkyattic

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REZDOG said:
You CANNOT "fix" a TMV or other related virus.
I have seen reference among rose gardeners to outwitting rose mosaic virus (RMV) by culturing cells from growth that has unfurled in just the past few hours and testing all plantlets for RMV. Might this be something to look into?

Also, is there any other definitive way besides ag extension testing to tell the difference between a leaf that shows variegation because of TMV and a leaf that is variegated due to mutation? I know my Chem D has it (or some source of variegation), and suspect that my SnowCap and Sapphire are also infected because of the variegated leaves they have been giving me. I was under the impression that the TMV was a pattern that was smaller patches/marks than the large regions of pale green shown. Attached is a picture of the SnowCap for comparison.
 
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sniffs

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Hmm..so I know this is a little off topic, but was just wondering(cause of my pics of clones from above), Nutrients can put holes in leaves like the ones I posted a few posts ago? Also whats weird is the holes I'm getting in my Gonzo#2's(and yellowing spots and leaf color spotting almost it looks like) and its ONLY on my Gonzos's, I have DSD literally RIGHT next to both of the G's touching them and they don't have any signs at ALL of the problem. The holes are little slits in uniform that look almost like they were taken with a small knife. I didn't know it was possible for nutes to do something like this:







In all that I've been reading in the infirmary I haven't seen any nute related problems like what I have on these Gonzo's. Also I've had No-Pest strips up for days now and no dead bugs around the area at all. So sorry again for going so off topic, but I haven't been able to get a straight answer about these Gonzo's in a while and their SO beautiful I can't let them get any worse. Also the reason that made me believe my BerryPurp clones had TMV were the way the leaves would turn(like the ones with TMV do usually), I have some I'll take a pic of that do the popular "hook" curve in the leaf. Thanks again guys.
 

stinkyattic

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Sniffs, that's not a virus, that's a metals lockout (Mg specifically) that has gotten bad enough to actually perforate the leaf. Go over to the infirmary, fill out the form, and we will find out WHY you have that condition. The first pic looks like physical damage.
Also, it is rare you would notice dead bugs after putting up a no-pest strip. The insects most damaging to indoor cannabis grows are TINY- mites and thrips- and both live on the plant leaf and would fall onto the soil surface at death, where they would be indistinguishable from the brown soil to the naked eye.
 
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i think for sure its a virus, ive seen it on multiple generations of clones when i used to run the ghost cut....
No way it could be from over Mag. Simply cause ive seen it way to many times... Always get a random leaf her or there which will showcase the virus


Edit: Ventura - I dropped the ghost cut just cause i didnt have room for her, and replaced her with the Larry cut. The ghost and Larry OG's seem almost identical, except the larry is a little more frosty/potent. But in terms of smell/ growth characteristics, its really hard to see any differences.
 
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VenturaHwy

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ItsGrowTime said:
Wow, this thread sure got out of hand in a hurry. Anyway, here's a pic of a virused leaf from my gallery. It pops up every crop. It's definitely TMV. Fortunately it doesnt affect much other than a few leaves here and there.

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ETA: not Chemdog.

Another classic virus shot... this one shows perfectly the symptoms of TMV...

Stinky Attic, the way you tell the difference between a leaf that shows variegation because of TMV and a leaf that is variegated due to mutation...

Quote Ventura:
The way to identify the virus is to see if it affects just one side of leaf and the leaf turns towards that side as it grows. The reason it turns towards that side is the virus slows down the growth on the one side, but the other side keeps growing. Look at the pictures, its a dead giveaway....
 

VenturaHwy

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So far all of the pictures that show TMV have been of indica leaning strains... on sativa leaning strains some of the leaves become thin and massively deformed.... If anyone has any shots of this type post 'em up..... I'll try to get a camera to show what they look like.....
 

stinkyattic

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So a leaf of normal shape showing variegation is simply a harmless mutation. Well, that's good to know. I could post up pictures of infected roses (NEVER bring a plant from WalMart into your garden no matter how hard to find the variety is!!!! :mad: ) but that's the only 100% confirmed viral infection I've got going on right now. And it's winter.
Thanks!
 
i had that yellow side of leaf shit show up on one of my samskunkmans ORhaze/sk1 and the leave is straight as an arrow just yellow on one side it happened to 1 leaf on 3 nodes in a row
 

Grat3fulh3ad

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Hmmmm...
My chemdog D used to show the variegation... Now it doesn't...

Kept her dialed in proper, took only healthy cuts, kept those dialed in, took more healthy cuts... no sign of it anywhere in my garden on any of the plants... Never has affected any of my other plants, and now isn't affecting My D either...
 

petemoss

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I had this two-tone leaf problem several years ago on some Northern Lights from Sensi. Looks like I had TMV and didn't know it. I thought it was a cute genetic variation. Yet another reason to make a New Year's resolution to STOP SMOKING!



 
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Grat3fulh3ad

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So now every variegation is assumed to be TMV?
Don't think so... too many other potential causes to jump to conclusions or make assumptions...
 
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