Pure Blend Pro: organic or not?

[Suby]

Well I kinda learned how to grow ass backwards, my first grow was an organic soil mix with the regular PB and guanos and the herb was 1st rate and low maintenance to boot.
Then I got it in my head to try the PBPro line in bubblers and while the yields where noticeably better on my second try in hydro but the taste wasn't there, I had flushed for only 2-3 days and was dissappointed, plus it was a PITA and much less forgiving.
I supplemented a soil grow after that with PBPro and it was again very easy and quite good and user friendly but still didn't have me hooked like the guano batch.
I don't think that qualifies as an objective test on my part but my qualm is not with taste because it is very good to begin with.
Plus I have environmental qualms with anything in a bottle but that's not relevant here and it's a rant to most anyhow.

Peace
S

 

[Guest423]

ok so i have an unopened bottle of PBP, i'm going all out on my soil mix, earthworm castings, guanos, using myc fungi, molasses, ect, i want to reuse my soil also...probably even start composting this spring.

i always flush for 2-3 weeks with plain water no matter what i use....would it still be ok to use my bottle of PBP and reuse my soil? how about normal PB for that matter? will any of them mess with my other organics like the myc fungi...that fungi is pretty spendy to put in my soil...i don't want to waste it.

so should i skip the PBP and give it to a buddy and just buy the normal PB? or use the PBP up then switch to PB? i just want the best tasting and best burning buds u can get.

 

[eyeoftruth]

good product let u know how it come out

 

[Suby]

Well I don't want to cause a panic by any means because I know they are popular products, especially the LiquidKarma which may in fact be organic or organic-ish.

For what these products cost I definately say use it all up, if you flush for 3 weeks your soil will be fine as MOST of it's elements are organic as a plus, all the elements should compost fully given the propre resting periode.

If you can definately consider using the regualr PB which is fine for soil recycling and IS fully organic.
Mychorhizae are very tough but are sensitive to salts and I am conviced there is a salt fertilizer somewhere in the PBPro due to the ppm issues.
I'm sure when used as a supplement to a complete organic soil mix like your using there will be little harm to the Mike.

 

[Guest423]

good news, i'll just use it up then, probably switch to normal PB after that, i'm getting to the point where i'm not gonna use anything that comes in a bottle....i'd rather play mad scientist! when u make a stellar soil mix you don't even need much more besides a little boost.

i know PBP is good stuff though, i'm just trying to get as organic as i can. i believe you get your best colors, smells, and tastes out of organics....everyone has their own opinion but thats mine.....peace

 

[ezbake]

http://www.americanagritech.com/faq/faq.asp#3

Says right on their FAQ Section:

Q: Which American Agritech products are completely organic?
A: Liquid Karma, Pureblend, Pureblend Pro, Clearex, and Activit are each completely organic.


Edit: after reading more replies i see it isnt certified. thats not cool of them to advertise it as organic...

 

[Suby]

Check the postmarked date on that site, since then they've been refused OMRI certification which is pretty lax in and of itself.
Clearex for example is definately not organic no matter what's posted on the botanicare site.

Peace
S

 

[Guest]

Im not going to get my panties all in a wad....

I have looked at the label...

I dont see anything blatant that excludes them from being considered organic....

An authoritative link would be the only way anyone could convince me of otherwise....

They say its organic its organic in my book....

Until I see a link proving the point...

 

[Suby]

Well if anyone can explain to mw how an "organic" fert can raise ppm's past 1000 and work in hydro then i'm all ears.
S

 

[Guest]

Botanicare Pure Blend Pro
2.0-1.5-4.0
Hydro-Organic
Accelerated Vegetative Formula
A stand-alone hydro-organic based plant nutrient solution that can be used in soil or soilless hydroponic solutions. All natural liquid fertilizer is beneficial for fruits, flowers, vegetables, houseplants, shrubs, cacti and succulents. Derived from fish meal, composted seabird guano, seakelp, spirulina, soybean protein extract, rock phosphate, bone ash, potassium carbonate, magnesium carbonate, calcium carbonate, humic acid. Also contains non-plant food ingredients: Humic Acid 7.0% Leonardite.

Botanicare Pure Blend Pro
1.5-4.0-5.0
Hydro-Organic
Fruit and Flower Formula
A stand-alone hydro-organic based plant nutrient solution that can be used in soil or soilless hydroponic solutions. All natural liquid fertilizer is beneficial for fruits, flowers, vegetables, houseplants, shrubs, cacti and succulents. Derived from fish meal, composted seabird guano, seakelp, spirulina, soybean protein extract, rock phosphate, bone ash, potassium carbonate, magnesium carbonate, calcium carbonate, humic acid. Also contains non-plant food ingredients: Humic Acid 7.0% Leonardite."

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depends what you mean by organic :wink:

peace

 

[Suby]

Hey steppin,

I'm glad you posted that, it's all about the wording with these bottle pushers.
The word hydro followed "organic based" is not the equivalent of a product being simply "organic".
AgeOld organics and Metanaturals just simply state organic so why would botanicare play the word game when they could simply state organic.
I am NOT trying to pick a fight and everyones has been cool about me being an ass about this, ty for your patience and civility.
Something about how ambiguous this whole thing is just rubs me the wrong way.

Peace
S

 

[Guest]

i agree with you entirely suby , imo organic growing involves microbes and bacteria breaking down organic matter to foods the plant can use . going by the ingredients that Botanicare do list , this product would not be certified organic in the europe , the states may be different.

nutrient manufacturers are simply exploiting the loopholes in labeling laws to sell products .

peace

 

[luvtogrow]

Metanaturals organic? i don't pretend to have the knowledge to enter this organic debate, but I did just smoke some A11 Genius pheno: When researching a good organic nute for my soil grow, i visited the Oregon state Agricultural website where they do an analysis of all ferts sold in the state. If Urea is organic N then Meta is good_ Oregon state failed them! What are we really getting in these bottles marked "Organic"?

 

[THCpulmonary]

I would say Earth Juice bloom for late flowering is the best and will give the best tasting buds in the end it's also OMRI listed and can be used for soil or hydro. But you can also use non-organic ferts during veg and it will still taste just as good as long as you switch over to the all organic ferts by mid flowering.

 

[Hammerhead]

what about the soil formula ?

 

[Hammerhead]

anyone have an answer????? is there a differance in the HYdro formula?????

 

[Mr Celsius]

No, they are both more synthetic then organic. The only difference between soil and hydro is the N-P-K ratios. BTW, use the "soil" because the N-P-K are optimal for cannabis.

 

[Hammerhead]

I have been using that but was informed it is not 100% organic and that did not sit well with me since they advertised it as organic. I have switched to Advanced Nutrients Iguana, Sweet leaf anf Karma.