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New room in progress, suggestions wanted...
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killabrown420
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Yeah, I spent about 5 hours on the room today after taking a couple days off.
I think I'm going to take those tables and paint them flat white. Just to get a nice clean look to the room and ward off any mold from the wood. The walls and floor are already varnished so shouldn't have to worry about that. I think one more hps at the end would really finish the room off nice. I have 2 more 400's but I'd rather just get a 600 to be honest. I think it'll have to wait though as I've already dropped a grand on this room and there are no more funds available for anything else. (good camera included
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I think I'm going to take those tables and paint them flat white. Just to get a nice clean look to the room and ward off any mold from the wood. The walls and floor are already varnished so shouldn't have to worry about that. I think one more hps at the end would really finish the room off nice. I have 2 more 400's but I'd rather just get a 600 to be honest. I think it'll have to wait though as I've already dropped a grand on this room and there are no more funds available for anything else. (good camera included
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killabrown420
Active member
Update time...
Hit up lowes for some more home improvement items, and the result is a complete 2 tub ebb and flow system. I added up the costs and for this system including 50 L of hydroton (not pictured) was right around 100 bucks. I used the ebb and flow kit from the hydrostore. Didn't need any silicone around the pieces, everything is watertight.
So the veg space is finished.
The specs are
Top Half: 3x 80watt t12 flouros(2x40w each) This space will be for veg of clones/mothers/seedlings
Bottom Half: 2x40 watt t12 This space is for cloning
And then we have the flower room. 2x400 hps (hoping to fill other space shortly)
A view of the tubs
"Crossing Swords"
Helps circulate the water and add oxygen which the plants love. Didn't plan on this, just kinda happened. Made me lol when I turned the pump on...hehe
So now I just need to finish off the ventilation and the room will be done.
Hit up lowes for some more home improvement items, and the result is a complete 2 tub ebb and flow system. I added up the costs and for this system including 50 L of hydroton (not pictured) was right around 100 bucks. I used the ebb and flow kit from the hydrostore. Didn't need any silicone around the pieces, everything is watertight.
So the veg space is finished.
The specs are
Top Half: 3x 80watt t12 flouros(2x40w each) This space will be for veg of clones/mothers/seedlings
Bottom Half: 2x40 watt t12 This space is for cloning
And then we have the flower room. 2x400 hps (hoping to fill other space shortly)
A view of the tubs
"Crossing Swords"
Helps circulate the water and add oxygen which the plants love. Didn't plan on this, just kinda happened. Made me lol when I turned the pump on...hehe
So now I just need to finish off the ventilation and the room will be done.
killabrown420
Active member
Just got a 1000 watt hps to fill out the flower room. I have to rig up some sort of cooltube in order to use it though. Going to do that and the ventilation over the next week or two.
Mc__Nugget
Member
i think a sealed room would definitely be your best bet. just have the lights intake cool air from the window and exhaust into your attic, no scrubber necessary. then you could have a small fan simply pulling air from the flower area through the vegging area, add a little bit of co2 enrichment and you are good to go
killabrown420
Active member
Mc__Nugget said:
I thought about this. I actually have a co2 tank and emitter, it's just that when I was running a sealed room of a much smaller scale, I kept running into heat and humidity problems. The 1000 watter will put off a great deal of heat, even air-cooled. I think having one fan sucking air through the hoods, and pulling air through the veg air, and one fan scrubbing and venting into the attic will be my best bet. I tried a sealed room before and had problems controlling heat and humidity. I would like to make use out of the co2 tank I have but the extra 10% co2 boosts is not worth the hassle imo. If I had a climate controller and dehumidifier/ac it might be worth trying. Thanks for the input though.
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Bigtimer7
Bugs can be takin care of with Pantyhose.... The air can get thru but the bugs cant.
Also, I would maybe think about putting down pond liner to be safe if it is an old house and there is a leak? Just a few thoughts I had while reading the 1st page..
Also, I would maybe think about putting down pond liner to be safe if it is an old house and there is a leak? Just a few thoughts I had while reading the 1st page..
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badugi
Nice thread; I'm in. 
killabrown420
Active member
Good tips BT7, I took your advice and got a pond liner. Initially I didn't want to spend the 40 bucks, but when I thought about the potential cost if something was to happen it seemed like a no brainer.
So I took everything out of the room today, took apart the ebb and flow tables and cleaned everything real good. I got a metal strip and a 4"-6" reducer from lowes and rigged up a cool tube for the 1000 watter. Once I got that hung up I installed the 2 6" elbows and attached them to the cooltube and air-cooled 400's.
The only thing left to do now is cut my holes in the closet door and ceiling, and attach the fans/carbon filter. I should be borrowing a jigsaw to get the job done wednesday. So by the end of this week the room should be finished.
Total costs... rough estimates
Lights - 1800 watts $500
Fans/Carbon Filter - $200
Nutes/Tables/Medium/Pumps $200
Random stuff from lowes $200
Was hoping to keep it under a grand but I went over. I'm happy with the result, and will be even happier after that first harvest!
So I took everything out of the room today, took apart the ebb and flow tables and cleaned everything real good. I got a metal strip and a 4"-6" reducer from lowes and rigged up a cool tube for the 1000 watter. Once I got that hung up I installed the 2 6" elbows and attached them to the cooltube and air-cooled 400's.
The only thing left to do now is cut my holes in the closet door and ceiling, and attach the fans/carbon filter. I should be borrowing a jigsaw to get the job done wednesday. So by the end of this week the room should be finished.
Total costs... rough estimates
Lights - 1800 watts $500
Fans/Carbon Filter - $200
Nutes/Tables/Medium/Pumps $200
Random stuff from lowes $200
Was hoping to keep it under a grand but I went over. I'm happy with the result, and will be even happier after that first harvest!
HydroFarmer
Member
Any more room?? Pulling up a chair for this one..should be interesting..
Good luck and stay safe....
Good luck and stay safe....
killabrown420
Active member
HF pull up a seat. The next several months should be action packed for me. Still working out the kinks of the room, going to start new crosses soon and try to fill the room up. Here are some new pics... The seedlings are now under the 1000 watter and figure to start booming. A week or so and I'll switch to 12/12. Next batch will go under the 800 watts in roughly a month. Going to stagger harvests as best I can, but w/ the seedlings I'm doubting many will finish in the standard 60 days. More like 70-75+ So I'm shooting for a harvest every other month give or take.
I'll get some shots of the ventilation when I get a chance.
*EDIT
Here are the ventilation shots. The closet holds a 264 cfm blower that is pulling air through the lights. The carbon scrubber fits snug with the ceiling, held in place by bungees. In the attic I mounted the fan and connected it to the scrubber with about 4 ft. of flexible ducting. Later on I plan to get some insulation and cover up the the ducting as well as build a sound muffler for the exhaust. Sound is not as bad as I thought it would be, and adding those two things should keep it to a low hum.
The suction from the inline fan pulling air through the carbon scrubber brings in air from the veg area, so all the air in the room is getting scrubbed before hitting the attic. Temps are good so far. I will monitor them closely as I fine tune the room, making any necessary adjustments.
So for now this room is done. Nothing to do now except find more things to improve and get to growing.
I'll get some shots of the ventilation when I get a chance.
*EDIT
Here are the ventilation shots. The closet holds a 264 cfm blower that is pulling air through the lights. The carbon scrubber fits snug with the ceiling, held in place by bungees. In the attic I mounted the fan and connected it to the scrubber with about 4 ft. of flexible ducting. Later on I plan to get some insulation and cover up the the ducting as well as build a sound muffler for the exhaust. Sound is not as bad as I thought it would be, and adding those two things should keep it to a low hum.
The suction from the inline fan pulling air through the carbon scrubber brings in air from the veg area, so all the air in the room is getting scrubbed before hitting the attic. Temps are good so far. I will monitor them closely as I fine tune the room, making any necessary adjustments.
So for now this room is done. Nothing to do now except find more things to improve and get to growing.
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J. Greenstein
Member
killabrown420 said:
According to Ed Rosenthal, tanks delivering co2 will actually lower temps slightly...are you certain it was the co2 causing heat problems?
What do you mean by "10% co2 boosts is not worth the hassle"? Are you saying that co2 adds only 10% increase in yeild?
killabrown420
Active member
no I had heat and humidity issues because of where my grow was located, not because of the co2. I went the sealed room route w/ co2 because of my heat issue, thinking that adding co2 would help combat my inability to bring in fresh air (again because of where my grow was located.) and w/ co2 you can have higher temps as long as the other variables are good (humidity, high c02 levels)
what i meant by hassle is getting additional equipment, environment controllers, timers, and such and fine tuning everything so that the maximum 30% increase in yield could be accomplished. To get that you need constant 1500 ppm in flower. Lights must be vented seperately, or turned off and on with a controller, and you need to run a dehuey... Originally co2 was supposed to be the solution to a problem I was having, but ended up being an even bigger problem to deal with once I sealed my old box.
With this room I'm guessing it would take a 70 pint dehuey, a/c unit, environment controller, and a fresh tank each month to use co2. Including power limitations, cost of equipment, and maintenance fee's It's not worth the potential reward. Keeping it simple these days
what i meant by hassle is getting additional equipment, environment controllers, timers, and such and fine tuning everything so that the maximum 30% increase in yield could be accomplished. To get that you need constant 1500 ppm in flower. Lights must be vented seperately, or turned off and on with a controller, and you need to run a dehuey... Originally co2 was supposed to be the solution to a problem I was having, but ended up being an even bigger problem to deal with once I sealed my old box.
With this room I'm guessing it would take a 70 pint dehuey, a/c unit, environment controller, and a fresh tank each month to use co2. Including power limitations, cost of equipment, and maintenance fee's It's not worth the potential reward. Keeping it simple these days
J. Greenstein
Member
OK thanks for the clarification.
indicameds
Member
shits looking great, ima keep my eye on this one for sure.
killabrown420
Active member
hey guys, even though the room is done i'm thinking about squeaking in more one more modification by adding a light mover to the 1000 watter. I can already see now that the plants around the edge of the garden are going to be jipped on some lumens, a light mover would help even things out and make it worth filling up the 4x6 space. My room is 6 ft. wide. I'm thinking of getting a 4ft. rail/mover. I'll have to replace the chimney 90 degree elbows with flexible ducting but other than that it should be an easy project.
killabrown420
Active member
Thought i should update this since I worked on the room recently. I hooked up the light mover so it moves 2 ft. back and forth over a 4x6 footprint. I got 4- 2x3 tubs in that 4x6 space. 6 plants a tub in 1 gallon grow bags w/ promix.
I moved the veg table to a different spot and attached the 400's to the ducting I originally setup to exhaust the veg room. Within the month I hope to have that space full and flowering, staggering light schedules and harvesting ~ once a month.
I moved the veg table to a different spot and attached the 400's to the ducting I originally setup to exhaust the veg room. Within the month I hope to have that space full and flowering, staggering light schedules and harvesting ~ once a month.
looks good. how many plants do u have going at once?
