Multi Room New Setup

[resinnation]

I am currently setting up first grow house. Right now I am in the construction phase in the first room.

My plan is to start with one room, and heres what I have right now(pictures will be posted soon.

8'x10'x8' room that is gutted. I am framing tomorrow with 2x4 quiet rated insulation. I also put some old ceiling panels under osb board on floor.

I need to decide:

1. Grow tek(leaning toward e&f 4x8 tables(2 per room) with either 2 - 1k hps or 2 600on movers or 3 600s)

2. Beans, I want a heavy producer with good smoke, obv, anyway strong narcotic high,
Beans that are do well fecked hydro(first time I'll be doing hydro) so help finding a strain that will tolerate my learning curve and is a commercial strain
I'll be doing some micro grows eventually looking for some baby mommas(I'd really like to get some SAGE love that stuff) oh, also if there is a strain that fits this pattern AND doesn't have much variation(ie I don't have to grow 30 beans and keep buncha moms around to find decent pheno)

I plan to grow beans out until I can take clones, put moms in another room being moms, and flower clones, I don't want want to be messing with ton of plants from all different moms etc...

3. Probably going to need some controller and electric wiring help here in a minute so I'll keep ya posted

4. Uhh all for now more construction tomorrow...

Looking forward to hearing was ICmag has to contribute, and this is first grow I am building ground up, so I want to take oppurtunity to setup a clean efficient room(s).

edit: Oh, can someone comment what weight will be with 2 4x8 e&f hydroton tables, and their requisite 90-115 gal res?

 

[badugi]

Wow you're going to need a lot more help than what IC can throw at you for the next day or two. Sounds to me like you're really new to this and wanna go big from the first step without much any experience. Many here have tried, not a single one I have seen has succeed.

Call me a hater but I marked as a failed operation already, and won't amount to much in the end. Hope you prove me wrong.

 

[resinnation]

badugi

what are common shortfalls you see?

also I don't care about going huge from first step. This is longterm plan that starts with 1 room. I do care about not having to tear down and rebuild multiple times. Thats why I want am looking toward IC to comment with experience and ideas.

Like I said this is first room I've built aside from throwing a light in a closet. Its not first time I have grown. Anyway I will be proceeding with caution and appreciate ideas as well as constructive criticism

 

[badugi]

what are common shortfalls you see?

Zero to very little knowledge & experience; and everything that comes with it (incl. lack of genetics, to begin with).

 

[badugi]

The "So you wanna be a commercial grower?" thread has been locked/deleted, but the "100x70 feet grow" thread is around to serve as an example of it in action.

 

[FRIENDinDEED]

dont really see anything wrong with it at all, if youve grown before then you should be ok.

your taking things one room at a time, which is what you or anyone would have to do, whether it be large or small, so go for it.

hell i wish i had a house to grow in and ive only had 2 official grows. of course your gonna get the nay sayers but oh well. hey its your grow, if anything it will be your learning experience. arm yourself with information and you should be ok.

if your one of those "go hard or go home" types then jsut be that and get to growin'!

if you succeed or fail, my grows gonna be fine.

 

[yamaha_1fan]

Sounds to me like you're really new to this and wanna go big from the first step without much any experience. Many here have tried, not a single one I have seen has succeed.

Call me a hater but I marked as a failed operation already, and won't amount to much in the end. Hope you prove me wrong.

Well I just have to call BS on that comment



I suggest you do alot of reading resinnation. Not having a tried and true strain is going to be your biggest challenge.

I say tables. They are a snap to set up and maintain. E&F is almost bullet proof

Heres a link to a recent discussion on what kind of lighting to use on a 4x8 table http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=104625

Take a look at my signature and glance through the thread

EDIT The table wont be much even with plants. Google gallon to weight conversion but a gallon of water is about 8 pounds.

 

[resinnation]

cool, yeah and if a mod reads this can you move it to grow diaries?

I've been reading icmag and dreaming of my having my own place so i can get a setup going(refused to have my own grow in anything I don't own) and thats been going on for awhile, now I just have to organize all thoughts and ideas into actionable series, and thats why I'm starting this grow diary to post progress for people that may want to follow similar path, and for feedback to make sure everything telescopes into some fine herbs

yam, I read you grow start to finish the other night....very nice, I also read the other dude that had tables going stonerx or something, and that is what inspired to me go with the tables previously I was planning on going soil since thats what I have experience with, and the whole fuck a plant vs fuck a crop thing

UPDATE: first room is ready to start setting up equipment after the holidays. Finished framing, insulating, and running subpanel today

hope ya'llre eating well, i will be

 

[RedReign]

Resinnation, good luck on your new grow.

Look into Joey Weed's AK99, TFD's Pot Of Gold, and PeakSeedsBC's Skunkberry for heavy yielding, easy to grow, dank.

 

[Mr Celsius]

I am currently setting up first grow house. Right now I am in the construction phase in the first room.

My plan is to start with one room, and heres what I have right now(pictures will be posted soon.

8'x10'x8' room that is gutted. I am framing tomorrow with 2x4 quiet rated insulation. I also put some old ceiling panels under osb board on floor.

I need to decide:

1. Grow tek(leaning toward e&f 4x8 tables(2 per room) with either 2 - 1k hps or 2 600on movers or 3 600s)

How are you going to fit 2 4x8 tables in a 8'x10' room? The actually tables are 8 1/2'... so that leaves you 1 foot of walking space. Not going to work. Looks like its gonna be 2 - 3'x6' tables with 2 - 600's over each.

2. Beans, I want a heavy producer with good smoke, obv, anyway strong narcotic high,
Beans that are do well fecked hydro(first time I'll be doing hydro) so help finding a strain that will tolerate my learning curve and is a commercial strain
I'll be doing some micro grows eventually looking for some baby mommas(I'd really like to get some SAGE love that stuff) oh, also if there is a strain that fits this pattern AND doesn't have much variation(ie I don't have to grow 30 beans and keep buncha moms around to find decent pheno)

I plan to grow beans out until I can take clones, put moms in another room being moms, and flower clones, I don't want want to be messing with ton of plants from all different moms etc...

Pot of Gold
Double Dutch
Shit
Chronic
Critical Mass
Ak47 (Right pheno)
Sweet Island Skunk

These are all good commercial strains that all have their pluses and minuses. Are you scrogging, sogging, growing them out big? This will make a big difference as to what strain you are going to use.

3. Probably going to need some controller and electric wiring help here in a minute so I'll keep ya posted

Read a lot, or hire an electrician. I chose to read and learn a lot, so I do all my own electrical now, but its not easy or safe... often times (even with precautions) I feel like I could die.

4. Uhh all for now more construction tomorrow...

Looking forward to hearing was ICmag has to contribute, and this is first grow I am building ground up, so I want to take oppurtunity to setup a clean efficient room(s).

edit: Oh, can someone comment what weight will be with 2 4x8 e&f hydroton tables, and their requisite 90-115 gal res?

Tables are probably about 40lbs and res is another 40'ish lbs.

Quite honestly, from what you've posted, I don't think you're ready for this. You seem very unknowing and like you're trying to learn to swim in the deep end.

 

[resinnation]

I am building my own tables most likely, but yeah that was a concern, I wasn't going to go into it. room is actually 12x9 studded and drywalled. Also upon thinking about it, I am going to take some measurements of the room I plan to work with next. I believe it is larger and should accomodate 2 tables, turning original room into mom/clone work room.

For now, I am not concerned I'm not growing moms on tables so I have couple months before I have to have tables set up.

I agree I am leanring to swim in the deep end, but I am not unknowing, I do believe I am less knowing than many on IC so here I am...

appreciate the responses positive and negative

anyway, I have secondary income etc, so a crop failure isn't my worst nightmare. I plan on having couple plants in soil just in case anyway.

I am not so worried about the growing although I'm sure there will be learning curve to hydro

Also I have a large house wehre space is not an issue its coming down to electric heat etc...so I am trying to design/build most efficient system.

 

[Mr Celsius]

anyway, I have secondary income etc, so a crop failure isn't my worst nightmare.

You will be successful then... when is really the question.

I'm the good friend that you don't like. I'm extremely honest and realistic and most people don't like to hear that. But this is a business (for some) and there's no bullshiting in business.

You're going to fail in some regard and if you don't, it was by pure luck. Growing weed is one of the hardest businesses in the world. You have to be an electrician, carpenter, plumber, farmer, horticulturalist, chemist (optional) and a myriad of other professions.

Growing has made me a more knowledge and hard person. Hopefully it will do the same for you. Read, read, read, read, read, do, do, do, do.

 

[resinnation]

exactly why I am looking forward to the challenge so much and making this diary, to learn and catalogue my mistakes and successes for other growers.

 

[resinnation]

And I'd rather have my own thread to get post count up rather than making other threads harder to read

 

[yamaha_1fan]

If I had to do it over again, I would buy the tables. My next design uses pre-made tables. Tables like mine are basically impossible to move and take time to build. It costs a little more but well worth it. Now in my current setup, to maximize space, 4x8 tables would not have worked

 

[resinnation]

whats your current setup?

I don't have to maximize space as much as electricity, however not reason not to do both to best of my ability

I have been reading light mover threads, anyone can comment on the most reliable light mover(fails the least)

 

[Mr Celsius]

whats your current setup?

I don't have to maximize space as much as electricity, however not reason not to do both to best of my ability

I have been reading light mover threads, anyone can comment on the most reliable light mover(fails the least)

My current setup is small. I just moved into a new house and am going to be expanding the room after the first run.

I had a friend pre-veg my plants, so I have 12 blue dreams in a Scrogg on a 3'x6' table with 2 - 600's in Super Sun 2's. On the other table I have 15 GDP on a 3'x6' table with 2 - 600's in Super Sun 2's. I have 10 - 600's in Super Sun 2's and will be using all of those when this run is over.

The GDP's are about 2 1/2' - 3' tall and will probably yield around a lb. I've never ran Blue dreams, but have heard great things... they (if they weren't under a screen) would probably be around 4' tall. The blue dreams will pull between 1-2 lbs.

Ebb n' flow, in 2 gal net bottom pots with pure coco being fed PBP (for soil) + Cal Mag (I use RO water). The tables have coco mats down so the roots can grow onto the tables (hence net bottom pots).

I'm ordering double dutch this week and will hopefully have enough to take around 100 clones for the next run. It'll be 5 3'x6' tables with 2 - 600's over each.

No Co2, temps are 76-78, humidity around 50-60%.

 

[yamaha_1fan]

My setup is still the same, but those tables I built are 4x11. The way the room is sized and shaped, I dont think I could have used 4x8 tables unless I did some crazy layout

 

[resinnation]

Mr C where did you find double dutch?

I just ordered some seeds
Power Plant
Pot of Gold
White Widow
Double Straw Diesel
S.A.G.E.
and couple packs of LGS Mountain Mix - I am going to grow out couple at a time looking for some qual genetics from teh mix pack
Edit: I have warlock and wonder haze on the way as well

Anyone grown Mountain Mix by legends is it just hyped or is it mix of qual genetics?

I plan to start with POG and PP, then SAGE in soil for my head when time space money or whatever permits, update when I order pickup equipment and set it up, I'll post some pics then

 

[resinnation]

Also I picked up supplies to make EZ cloner. Where can I find best misting nozzle online?

I have supplies for 3 100+ site tanks. Total cost ~325. I will seed mature and clone plants, veg them for week or two until they have solid root system and then move to tables. I will do this with 3 400 watt CMH.