%$(((Thundurkels 334 watt CFL Grow)))$%
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Bean Curd said:
The coco I'm using is what my buddy has and it's Ready Gro thats what the bag said and it has perlite in it...
Greyskull said:
Yes they are 16oz cups and those girls are 8 inches tall and rock hard in the middle and even most of the bottom too and I now have a chamber just for my PK cuts where they have the lights closer to them and aren't being shaded by taller strains like my other cab...
I'll post pics of the new setup asap, thank you everbody for taking interest in my grows I truly love this plant and plan to have a seed company in the next few years so stay tuned and as you can see I've started out with nothing but top quality strains so I see no reason to go backwards
SquallRealm
Member
Incredible. I cant believe thats week 4!!
What week do u harvest?
What week do u harvest?
SquallRealm said:
Well I have been bringing it down at 8 weeks and 9 weeks and I think I can let her go to 10 and she'd be fatter and more purple so thats what I'm doing this time..
Here we go with some pics of my cabs so you folks can see the setup...
here a some pics of the cab on it's side before I put in back in the closet,you see in the 2nd pic theres smaller space on the right covered in mylar and thats where my moms were but now thats another flower cab and my moms chill below in my 4ft long veg cab
this shot shows the 2 flower chambers before lights on
this shows flower cabs and veg cab underneath covered with a blanket
and these are the veg cab, I still need to get white plastic for the door and to cover the walls but for now it's working fine with 1 sunblaze 4ft T5 6500K
Well thats it for now until lights come on in my flower cabs and then I will take some pics of those for your folks to see so I hope everyone has enjoyed this episode of Thundurkel's Garden....
Alright I have some pics for everybody to check out of my new setup while lights are on 
here is my 2nd flower chamber where I am keeping my Purple Kush clones cuz they just wont stretch how I want and I have to grow them out to tall to finish where I want but if I flower them at 5" I get em to finish at 9"-10" with a good solid 5g purple nug so I'm going to use this cab for that and for the first week of 12/12 for new cuts so I don't have to raise them I can just take them from here in a week when they are 7-8" and put them in the main flower chamber and so goes the cycle...
this is my main flower chamber with 6 42w 2700K CFL's which gives me 252watts & 16,200 Lumens in 2.5 sq ft with a total of 100 watts per sq ft & 6480 lumens per sq ft
here are 2 close up shots of my SR71 PK rock hard!!! But you know CFL's only give you fluffy buds with no crystals....
YEA RIGHT!!!!
and these are 2 of my Urkels at week 7
Hope you all like what I have going on and again thank you DrBud for teaching me how to do this
here is my 2nd flower chamber where I am keeping my Purple Kush clones cuz they just wont stretch how I want and I have to grow them out to tall to finish where I want but if I flower them at 5" I get em to finish at 9"-10" with a good solid 5g purple nug so I'm going to use this cab for that and for the first week of 12/12 for new cuts so I don't have to raise them I can just take them from here in a week when they are 7-8" and put them in the main flower chamber and so goes the cycle...
this is my main flower chamber with 6 42w 2700K CFL's which gives me 252watts & 16,200 Lumens in 2.5 sq ft with a total of 100 watts per sq ft & 6480 lumens per sq ft
here are 2 close up shots of my SR71 PK rock hard!!! But you know CFL's only give you fluffy buds with no crystals....
YEA RIGHT!!!!
and these are 2 of my Urkels at week 7
Hope you all like what I have going on and again thank you DrBud for teaching me how to do this
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ooga booga said:What was the yield & GPW on the last grow? What so-called rules did you break and in what ways did you break them??
The rules I broke were over crowding and using containers that most would say give you root bound plants and said fuck a HID system which most growers say you can't get a good yield without...
As for the GPW I can't figure that until I flower all of my cuts at the same time but that last harvest was 16.4g after cure and that was from the 2 urkel clones I had going in the DrBud Method thread I had.
those are the 2 that gave me the 16.4g dry all together so I'm not sure what one weighed more but I know they were both over the good ol 7g per planlet that most of us micro grower go for...
ooga booga AKA our Ol'Friend Clowntown said:What was the yield & GPW on the last grow? What so-called rules did you break and in what ways did you break them??
First Things first
WAY TO GO THUNDERURKEL Well lets see...
Ppl said "You can't run 9 plantlets pre sq ft and get any kinda yield"
Thunderurkel...did his @ 16 per sq ft....I see that as Fawk You Plus 6
"You can't get a decent Yield from such small containers ...7 grams per cut @ 9 per sq ft..... NO-Way"
Thunderurkel....pulled 16.4 grams from his ladies @ 16 per sq ft...looks like 8.2 grams dried per cut to me
OogaBooga
Dr.Bud & ThunderurkelBoy sure looks to me like "The Minions" are doing quite well for themselves....how can this be?
What about the rules?
Most folks are content to be "Caretakers" Hang some HID lights....Buy some Hi-Dollar Brandnamed products that have already been shown to work...pretty well for the Masses thats a "Caretaker"
Take what ya have....and "Do something with nothing....thats a "Grower"
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Bean Curd
Thanks for all the pics Thundurkel, what amounts of those Flora Nova nutes do you use per gallon of water?
GreenScreen
Member
ya i got like 2XX watt cfl with 20+ cuts :O making rock hard buds ouch and they are very big right now bigger then expected so we will see what they end up with :O
ooga booga
Member
I know! From about 400 watts!DrBudGreengenes said:Thunderurkel....pulled 16.4 grams from his ladies @ 16 per sq ft...looks like 8.2 grams dried per cut to me
You really feel that if he puts more plants in there, his yield average per-plant will stay at or near 8.2g? Hardly. I'm thinking perhaps up to 3, 4, maybe even up to 5 plants that might be the case. Try putting an actual 16 per square foot and see if you get anything near that 8.2g average. Mark my words: It's just not going to happen, and I'm already calling it.Also, since when did Home Depot start selling T5 grow lights, General Hydroponics nutes, and ReadyGro coco coir?
You and Thundurkel are trying to make it sound like CFL-growing is some breaking news, and that you shattered some yield records with it? Far from the truth. This whole "they told us it couldn't be done!!" thing is really no different than how some poor black people blame their position in society on the fact that their ancestors from many generations ago were once kept as slaves, instead of the fact that they're just too lazy to make a better life for themselves. (Maybe some time ago when CFLs were still relatively new to the general world, and definitely new to the growing world, this may have applied.)
Funny how one follows some step-by-step, "how to grow pot" guide, get mediocre results, and now considers self some top shit above the rest.DrBudGreengenes said:
Tell me, how is that any different than your "caretaker" poke? Or are you making fun of Thundurkel, too?Kinda hard to laugh at other people, when you're getting less than 0.1gpw with all this "proving you wrong since 2008, son!!" type of stuff. I got close to 0.7 on a very messy run in a brand-new, un-dialed room with mostly unfamiliar strains and problems... and as you've mentioned, I'm very new to growing. Just a hair over 2 years ago I came to this site without knowing a single thing about growing any plant whatsoever.
I make things happen with what I have, and I keep at it until I get to where I want to be. Despite all sorts of personal problems, I made the last show happen and I'm here now to make it happen again. What do you do?
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Yea hey OOGABOOGA when the fuck did I say anything to offend you? why come in here hating?? and umm yea they are at 16 per sq ft and I know damn well I got over 7g dry each coming from my next harvest.....
Walmart sells t5's and so does Home Depot so look like a dumb ass, I get all my shit at Emigh/Ace hardware and they sell all the Fox Farm products I need and the Flora Nova and coco came from a friend but I can get bricks of coco at Emigh also and like I've said many times before I just like to show what can be done with CFL's since I was laughed at by so many and I got the results on my first grow which wasn't documented on here and I had 4 26 w cfl's and had 4 plants flowered at 3" and I got over 10g dry on each one from Kamels CFL thread on GC after seeing the Doc cram all his ladies and get the same I said WHY NOT!!! I'm sure you're just tossing shit cuz the Doc dissed on you and I don't know if you had pissed him off before but leave me the fuck out of it
Walmart sells t5's and so does Home Depot so look like a dumb ass, I get all my shit at Emigh/Ace hardware and they sell all the Fox Farm products I need and the Flora Nova and coco came from a friend but I can get bricks of coco at Emigh also and like I've said many times before I just like to show what can be done with CFL's since I was laughed at by so many and I got the results on my first grow which wasn't documented on here and I had 4 26 w cfl's and had 4 plants flowered at 3" and I got over 10g dry on each one from Kamels CFL thread on GC after seeing the Doc cram all his ladies and get the same I said WHY NOT!!! I'm sure you're just tossing shit cuz the Doc dissed on you and I don't know if you had pissed him off before but leave me the fuck out of it
Also what do I do? I give actual data on methods that were said to not be possible and here we are again with someone sayin it's not possible to get over 7g dry at 16 plants per sq ft
As for the rest of any haters thinking about chiming in on this crap I will not tolerate it in my thread,I'm a helpful person and am here to share my love of growing cannabis and I've always gone against the grain...
With that said I hope everyone enjoys the show
As for the rest of any haters thinking about chiming in on this crap I will not tolerate it in my thread,I'm a helpful person and am here to share my love of growing cannabis and I've always gone against the grain...
With that said I hope everyone enjoys the show
ooga booga
Member
Thundurkel I'm sorry you had to take it so negatively.
You can see that as "hating", or you can see it as a "slap of reality". I think there's a lot of misinformation and false claims being made (some or most of which you helped prove wrong yourself), and I'm making that information available for all the blinded and confused newbies to see.
Seriously, if you get ~130 grams from 16 plants in a 1sqft area with the lighting intensity described & used earlier (or even a little more), I will eat my foot. You remember the offer I made? It still stands.
You remember when you first started out on those threads, how you were so excited about the great yields you'll be seeing, etc, how you're shooting for that 2+ GPW, etc? And now you're sitting here with less than 0.05 GPW in real-world results after talking all that big? And still not disappointed and not wondering if those claims weren't possibly false?
I didn't know Wal-Mart sold T5's, but I'm not terribly surprised. I do know Home Depot sells T5's, but I also know that they don't sell "grow lights" (i.e., SunBlaze brand is specifically targeting the horticultural market, and not distributing through Home Depot, etc).
The point was to obtain results using "everyday materials" not found at hydro shops and easily, readily and commonly available at "normal" retail outlets. I could sit here going on and on about how all the equipment & materials for my grow was obtained by finding it on the sidewalk, having someone else buy it for me, etc, etc, but really... what point are you trying to prove??
You can see that as "hating", or you can see it as a "slap of reality". I think there's a lot of misinformation and false claims being made (some or most of which you helped prove wrong yourself), and I'm making that information available for all the blinded and confused newbies to see.
Seriously, if you get ~130 grams from 16 plants in a 1sqft area with the lighting intensity described & used earlier (or even a little more), I will eat my foot. You remember the offer I made? It still stands.
You remember when you first started out on those threads, how you were so excited about the great yields you'll be seeing, etc, how you're shooting for that 2+ GPW, etc? And now you're sitting here with less than 0.05 GPW in real-world results after talking all that big? And still not disappointed and not wondering if those claims weren't possibly false?
I didn't know Wal-Mart sold T5's, but I'm not terribly surprised. I do know Home Depot sells T5's, but I also know that they don't sell "grow lights" (i.e., SunBlaze brand is specifically targeting the horticultural market, and not distributing through Home Depot, etc).
The point was to obtain results using "everyday materials" not found at hydro shops and easily, readily and commonly available at "normal" retail outlets. I could sit here going on and on about how all the equipment & materials for my grow was obtained by finding it on the sidewalk, having someone else buy it for me, etc, etc, but really... what point are you trying to prove??
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ooga booga said:
He is doin the same thing that I am....clowntown
R U saying w/20+ dayz left these 6 will not be 42 grams or better?
these 6 are just part of the 72...in there @ 16 per sq ft
R U saying w/20+ dayz left these 6 will not be 42 grams or better?
these 6 are just part of the 72...in there @ 16 per sq ft
ooga booga
Member
Well, I was kinda done with this thread (I'm a little tired of arguing, and not being agreeable, myself) but I'll try to keep it in the "right mood".
I'm not positively convinced one way or another whether 42g is realistic, but I'm leaning towards "no" and not only for the sake of argument.
By the way, what strain is that? 75+ days? I'm asking because I had recently been reminded of this 11/13 vs 12/12 lighting under fluoros, and wondering what your thoughts are on that topic. If you don't know what I'm referring to, let me know and I'll elaborate.
I'm not positively convinced one way or another whether 42g is realistic, but I'm leaning towards "no" and not only for the sake of argument.
By the way, what strain is that? 75+ days? I'm asking because I had recently been reminded of this 11/13 vs 12/12 lighting under fluoros, and wondering what your thoughts are on that topic. If you don't know what I'm referring to, let me know and I'll elaborate.
BigBlack81
Member
Thun, a few questions:
1. what smell prevention methods do you use with all those clones?
2. what are you impressions on coir as a medium in comparison to soil, particularly fosucing on the nutes required? I ask as I'm thinking of going with a hempy coir passive hydro system as I love coir as a medium in mushroom work and agree with others that coir as a medium is very underrated given what could be with these developments. A small scale, passive micro coir system might be very beneficial for growers like me who want to use copper hydroxide as well.
3. I've heard so much crow about GPW and things like that in this thread from both supporters and haters that it's making me ill. If you would, give me a dimension set that YOU personally would consider a good, real world setup for testing the theories that you and the Doc have propagated as I'm thinking that my first grow should be built on these theories as a way of shutting EVERYONE up by giving good, benchmarkable information that can be reproduced in an independent condition. If it's scientific clarity we're after, help me figure out what a good test system might look like.
And again, thank you for all this and all your help. Though it might seem pedantic, all this dickering IS creating a better bud for us all. And THAT should be the main goal for all growers on this board, regardless of approach.
1. what smell prevention methods do you use with all those clones?
2. what are you impressions on coir as a medium in comparison to soil, particularly fosucing on the nutes required? I ask as I'm thinking of going with a hempy coir passive hydro system as I love coir as a medium in mushroom work and agree with others that coir as a medium is very underrated given what could be with these developments. A small scale, passive micro coir system might be very beneficial for growers like me who want to use copper hydroxide as well.
3. I've heard so much crow about GPW and things like that in this thread from both supporters and haters that it's making me ill. If you would, give me a dimension set that YOU personally would consider a good, real world setup for testing the theories that you and the Doc have propagated as I'm thinking that my first grow should be built on these theories as a way of shutting EVERYONE up by giving good, benchmarkable information that can be reproduced in an independent condition. If it's scientific clarity we're after, help me figure out what a good test system might look like.
And again, thank you for all this and all your help. Though it might seem pedantic, all this dickering IS creating a better bud for us all. And THAT should be the main goal for all growers on this board, regardless of approach.
