600W Coco SOG Recirc! JH, Sensi Star, ST, Power Plant, HHW and others

[AdmiralRed]

My garden has been posted in the 600W club, but I figured that my Coco buddies might want to have a look see should they have not seen it before.

In here is a bunch of different strains, all seeming to love the Lucas formula at 5.8ph and about ~1150ppm. There are 40 in currently under a digi 600 on a light rail.

Let's go back in time a bit and then fast forward in time. Here we go!

Here we are with the first 30 plants in. One row of 10 was in two weeks before the other two.

I think this was about week 3 for some of them.

Week 3ish Sensi Star

Week 4 Sensi Star

Week 4 Sensi Star close up

Now we have 40 in

2 Sensi left, 2 Sweet Tooth right

Another SS up close shot

Had a few intrusive Jack Herer's. A little trim later and the new little ones have some room to kick it

Little ones with room

A couple more fans taken off the front row

An artsy Sweet Tooth Shot

Now an artsy SS shot

 

[AdmiralRed]

In an effort to combat stretch and even the canopy, I did a little raising of my troughs. Two rows got a 4" lift and the one with little ones got a 8" lift.

Here is the canopy after a little rearranging.

Another shot showing the canopy being a little more level with a little fan leaf trim

Fat Sensi Star

The biggest of the Sensi's

A shot of the whole crop

Jack Herer, week 5

Here is a Sweet Tooth profile

Same ST, just close up

A Sensi going for broke (lower branches that is)

Here is a JH close up, the undersides of the leaves get so covered in trics that the leaf margins curl up

A backed out shot of the JH

 

[RealSupreme]

nice budz man, good job!

 

[AdmiralRed]

A few detail shots on the system. 5.5" square pots with drip lines.

The troughs

The return lines

Drip into the pot, 3 times lights on!

Partially loaded


When the lights come on in a little over an hour, I will take some pics of the rest of the girls in there. There are quite a few that need an introduction. Will get them taken shortly.

 

[confedrate69]

I was wondering when u were going to start your own thread now I can come in here and hi jack it for a min here. I'm glad to see all the pics out there for everyone to see all in one spot.
I've known this AdmirlRed guy for a while now and he still amazes me with some of the stuff he pulls off!!! talking me Mr.Confedrate69-Soil-HardHead into hydro. I mean he must be a double agent hydro pump manufacture or something? who knows but he sure does have a dam nice grow on the go and a sweet system up and running. modeled mine after it on a larger scale though.

Id give u some props but u already need a king size pillow for that fat head of yours .

 

[gdawg]

nice grow admiral! couple qs for ya..ever have humidity issues in your tent? is co2 injection possible in a sealed tent? just wonderin, was thinkin of downsizin and flipfloppin a couple tents similar to your setup. anyways really like the troughs

 

[repuk]

AdmiralRed could you please post the tent dimensions?? Don't you have heat issues with a 600W there?

Looks like you got everything fairly controlled!!! tight space and lots of strains!!

 

[crtoker]

I just found this one and wow. What a nice clean and well designed setup. I will be getting my ticket punched for admission, amigo!

 

[AdmiralRed]

How about an update? I have not had a chance until now to jump in and answer questions or put up the pics that I took the other day.

So how about a little more detail on the room. It is a closet actually, not a tent. The closet is 2'x5' with full 9 foot ceilings. I have a 400cfm inline fan to draw through the carbon filter and light hood which exhausts outside of the room. In addition I have a Stanley blower that blows in the front plastic for intake and to keep the space at a relatively neutral pressure.

Until I added the Stanley blower blowing into the front plastic flaps, I did have some temperature issues. I have not thus far had any humidity issues. The space runs a pretty constant 45% with temp swings from 70-77F. The one time that I did have an issue with RH was when I had an Aeroponics setup in there with decently pressured lines. It seems one of the lines decided to pop off and hose down a couple of Jack Herer's which caused a very localized bud rot issue. NP, I harvested the offending buds and lightly neem oiled the ones close to the affected plants and averted disaster.

So I said I had a few other strains in here that I was going to need to introduce. This first one is actually an Heirloom plant. It goes by the name Humboldt Hippee Weed. The seeds that I received for this plant were the product of a male and female that were grown from seed which had BEEN IN THE FREEZER FOR 20 YEARS! My buddy was able to get two plants out and rejuvenate genetics which might have just been lost.
This first one is about maybe 4 weeks

This HHW has only been in flower about two weeks.


These next two plants are a Sexy Mexican that I call Sugar Sister. It was one of the first bagseed plants that I grew when I returned to growing after a 10 year hiatus. I was treated to a rodelized seed, so I planted it and kept it going. It is a nice Sativa high that I have only taken out to 8 weeks in the past. This time they will have the option to go a little longer if they like. Of the strains that I have around, although bagseed, it is a good one. I owe it to myself to get all my strains dialed in and figured out.
So now, Sugar Sister.



So here is my Power Plant. This one was yet another rodelized seed. It was from seed found in a nug of PPP and got put in the ground only to turn up a female. I have seen another friends show with PPP, and this one smells just like it. It suffered a huge stretch and lost some momentum, but should fill out decently in the end.


Last but not least, I have the last one to blame on Confederate. It is one of his mongrel seed breeding projects that goes by the name of Kentucky Spring. If I remember correctly, it is NL5xBig BudxSkunk 1. This will be the first time that I flower some of these out. I have had the mother sitting around waiting her turn for a while. Smells good, let see what it does in the end. Looks like it might just cover that stem with bud from top to bottom.


I will update sometime in the near future. I will be leaving Wednesday and not be back until Sunday. As soon as I get back, I will be taking down the oldest ones in and have a decent idea of the average weight pulled on the first 10 plants.

Alrighty, time to go chase down a leak minor leak in a grommet on the manifold. It is taking my rez level down faster that it needs to by draining into the pond liner in the bottom.

 

[repuk]

How about an update? I have not had a chance until now to jump in and answer questions or put up the pics that I took the other day.

So how about a little more detail on the room. It is a closet actually, not a tent. The closet is 2'x5' with full 9 foot ceilings. I have a 400cfm inline fan to draw through the carbon filter and light hood which exhausts outside of the room. In addition I have a Stanley blower that blows in the front plastic for intake and to keep the space at a relatively neutral pressure.

I see, is much bigger than I thought!

So I said I had a few other strains in here that I was going to need to introduce. This first one is actually an Heirloom plant. It goes by the name Humboldt Hippee Weed. The seeds that I received for this plant were the product of a male and female that were grown from seed which had BEEN IN THE FREEZER FOR 20 YEARS! My buddy was able to get two plants out and rejuvenate genetics which might have just been lost.

Whoa, that's impressive!!! I'd rename it to CryoWeed or just Disney's hehe

Keep us updated on that one!! I'm pretty curious!!!

These next two plants are a Sexy Mexican that I call Sugar Sister. It was one of the first bagseed plants that I grew when I returned to growing after a 10 year hiatus. I was treated to a rodelized seed, so I planted it and kept it going. It is a nice Sativa high that I have only taken out to 8 weeks in the past. This time they will have the option to go a little longer if they like. Of the strains that I have around, although bagseed, it is a good one. I owe it to myself to get all my strains dialed in and figured out.

Excuse my ignorance, what does "rodelized" mean??

Bag Seed certainly has an special "appeal" isn't it? one doesn't know what "Santa" weed is going to prize you with!! Why "Sugar"? trichs? taste?

cheers!

 

[AdmiralRed]

Repuk, here is an article about rodelization: http://hightimes.com/grow/soma/622 Basically the female as a last ditch effort to reproduce pops out a male flower. This nanner can fertilize and create a seed that is about 100% likely to be a female. The first time I saw it happen was with Sugar. I left the plant trimmed of bud but still under 24hr light. As it lingered along and stressed out about dying a cruel death in the corner, a seed was produced. I had already committed her to death, but she refused to go quietly. When I went to chop her down and compost what was left, a seed came rolling out of the carnage. I knew I had to plant it. I have kept Sugar alive because of it and also gained a great specimen of Jack Herer and Power Plant from a friend with a sharp eye. He found the needles(seeds) in the haystack and saved them for me.

@ Gdawg - Looks like I missed a question about CO2. I originally set this space up for CO2. I was handed a regulator from a friend of mine but have yet to hook it up to my tank and put it in there. I need to pick up another couple of timers so that I can time the intake and exhaust to shut off for 15 minutes during a CO2 introduction. Mine space is designed to be relatively sealed and would support CO2 easily. The added temp from the lights not being cooled during fan off periods would likely help a bit with CO2 uptake.

BTW, Sugar gets her name from the profuse amounts of trics she puts on. She also has a nice sweet spicy taste! There were two gorgeous top cola's on the first one that I grew, covered in sugar. After a cure sweetened her up, the name solidified.

AR

 

[repuk]

Repuk, here is an article about rodelization: http://hightimes.com/grow/soma/622 Basically the female as a last ditch effort to reproduce pops out a male flower. This nanner can fertilize and create a seed that is about 100% likely to be a female. The first time I saw it happen was with Sugar. I left the plant trimmed of bud but still under 24hr light. As it lingered along and stressed out about dying a cruel death in the corner, a seed was produced. I had already committed her to death, but she refused to go quietly. When I went to chop her down and compost what was left, a seed came rolling out of the carnage. I knew I had to plant it. I have kept Sugar alive because of it and also gained a great specimen of Jack Herer and Power Plant from a friend with a sharp eye. He found the needles(seeds) in the haystack and saved them for me.

Ah! that's called rodelization! thanks for the link! I guess rodelized seeds will be almost 100% like its "mother" pheno then?

I found a seed on my (hope) last bought bag, it's kinda big and looks good but for being almost white (unmature??), tried to germ it without success, used the wet towel method and it changed color but didn't show a tap root.

Maybe it's too soon as the weed is hardly cured, Do seeds need some kind of aging also? I removed it from the wet towels and stored it in a dry place, is there any trick to try to make it germ?

@ Gdawg - Looks like I missed a question about CO2. I originally set this space up for CO2. I was handed a regulator from a friend of mine but have yet to hook it up to my tank and put it in there. I need to pick up another couple of timers so that I can time the intake and exhaust to shut off for 15 minutes during a CO2 introduction. Mine space is designed to be relatively sealed and would support CO2 easily. The added temp from the lights not being cooled during fan off periods would likely help a bit with CO2 uptake.

I wonder, which kind of device is used to control CO2 release apart from the regulator? an electronic valve?

BTW, Sugar gets her name from the profuse amounts of trics she puts on. She also has a nice sweet spicy taste! There were two gorgeous top cola's on the first one that I grew, covered in sugar. After a cure sweetened her up, the name solidified.

SugarMex, it certainly does her justice BTW, did you top it off? or does "she" grow two colas on its own?

 

[AdmiralRed]

Maybe it's too soon as the weed is hardly cured, Do seeds need some kind of aging also? I removed it from the wet towels and stored it in a dry place, is there any trick to try to make it germ?

Unfortunately, if it was white, it was not yet viable. They need to be dark and hard. MJ can be planted pretty much straight from the bud and does not need any aging. Pretty simple, some plants require freezing or passing though an animal to be viable.

I wonder, which kind of device is used to control CO2 release apart from the regulator? an electronic valve?

There is a solenoid on the unit. Basically need a timer to turn off my fans and open the solenoid by applying electric current to the plug on the regulator. You set your flow rate on the regulator and whenever power is applied, the solenoid opens the valve and lets it come out in a metered flow. The flow rate is listed on the reg in cubic feet, a little simple math and you can figure out how much for how long.

SugarMex, it certainly does her justice BTW, did you top it off? or does "she" grow two colas on its own?

I think that I did top her. My return to growing grow was height limited. I was trying to keep her short if I remember correctly. I also started under CFL's and wanted to even the canopy as much as possible for the best light use.

 

[passion]

thumbs up man

 

[metamorf]

Yeah, fat looking sensi star you got going there! Nice grow!

 

[AdmiralRed]

Thanks for the complements. Been out of town since Wednesday. Looking forward to the lights coming on and me getting a good peek. 10 come down, 10 go in tonight!

AR

 

[AbaZabba]

Hey Admiral, nice looking tent you have stabilized there.

I was curious how you control the nutrient levels for each plant, since they appear to be on a staggering timeline?

It seems to me that the new clone's being flipped into flower would be pummeled by the high nutrient solution you're feeding to the larger gals, or am I missing something ?

Regardless, nice and clean setup there

 

[Skrappie]

Why do you clip your leaf tips?

 

[AdmiralRed]

Hey Admiral, nice looking tent you have stabilized there.

I was curious how you control the nutrient levels for each plant, since they appear to be on a staggering timeline?

It seems to me that the new clone's being flipped into flower would be pummeled by the high nutrient solution you're feeding to the larger gals, or am I missing something ?

Regardless, nice and clean setup there

The nutrient levels for each plant really don't matter IMHO. I use the Lucas formula for feeding my girls and even the little ones go in and have a good time. The only change that I will be implementing is a valving system that will allow me to implement a second rez that can be used for flushing. I will automate flushes for rows coming up to the end of their run. I will also use it for a mid-flower flush of the coco to avoid nute lockout.

@Skrappie - I trim my leaf tips to have a balance between sugar production and canopy penetration. There are a lot of folks who despise cutting fans to allow canopy penetration. There are also folks that swear that by whacking them off you get less popcorn in the lower branches. I feel that by trimming tips you get sugar production that you need for weight and penetration for lower branch development.

Just about to post pics...stay tuned!

 

[AbaZabba]

Running double reservoirs sounds like a really good idea in a setup like this, valving the flush water to specific rows would give complete control of feeding/flushing.

I really like those flood trays, going to have to look into those in the future.

Keep it green