Sudden influx of feminised seeds?

[dankbudz]

I would like to hear your opinions on the "sudden influx" of feminised seeds!

i do beleive he said opinions right??

wvkindbud-i dont need femmed seeds i know how to cut my own clones. i dont see why your attacking me?? all i did was post my opinion. just for the recorcd i have grown fem seeds from female seeds and GHS...even though the GH was a complete and utter garbage that didnt even flower. why do you feel hostile towards me for posting my opinion?? i will continue to grow males..just like nature intended it to be...and if people werent growing males then you wouldnt have had your precious fem seeds. no hard feelings toward you bro...i understand you live in area without access to great genetics. i was never knocking anyone just read my post it was clearly stated..i never said anything about that being bad...everyone was a newbie grower at one time.

 

[wvkindbud38]

For the last time I said I grow STANDARD SEEDS(AND RESPECT THOSE WHO DO). I JUST LIKE FEMs BETTER(THAT'S MY OPINION). I'M ALSO POSTING MY OPINION THAT I PREFER FEMISHED SEEDS. YOU THINK I DON'T KNOW WE NEED MALES FOR BREEDING? IF YOU WOULD READ MY POSTS YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT I'M ALSO GIVING MY OPINION THAT I LIKE FEM SEEDS BETTER THAN STANDARD. I DIDN'T SAY LETS ALL STOP GROWING MALES AND BUY FEM SEEDS. I DON'T FEEL HOSTILE TOWARDS ANYONE. UNTIL YOU CALLED US NEWBIES THAT LIKED FEM SEEDS. YOUR TRYING TO SAY THAT ONLY PEOPLE THAT GROW OUT FEM SEEDS ARE PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING(NEWBIES). IF THAT'S HOW YOU FEEL DANKBUDZ AND A FEW OF THE OTHERS THAT JUMPED IN...THAT'S OK. JUST MORE FEM SEEDS FOR ME TO BUY. IT'S OK IF SOME OF YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE A $150 BUCKS FOR 10 FEM SEEDS BUT DON'T RIP US THAT DOES. I RAN STANDARD SEEDS ALSO FOR THE LAST TIME. SERIOUS SEEDS KALI MIST AND AK 47 ARE SOME OF MY FAVS. I'M NOT ARGUING ABOUT THIS ANYMORE. IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS SEND ME A PM AND WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT. ALOT OF YOU GUYS TRYING TO STIR SH** UP NEED TO READ THE ENTIRE POST'S BEFORE GETTING ALL JOHNNY BAD A$$ ON US LOL. THIS IS A FORUM FOR GROWING AND GROWERS NOT HE SAID SHE SAID.

 

[dankbudz]

your one funny guy wvkindbud. rip on people who say"but all in all the only growers i see enjoying these are newbie growers(not knocking anyone)" emphasis on i see...which is there opinion...then you post your opinion.

bro your not doing anything but make yourself look bad with all the nasty comments.

 

[overmind1632]

This sudden influx is also GHS co's fault

Thats all they are producing know since they are able to commericalize it more while charging more

 

[wvkindbud38]

Whatever I told you to send me a PM to discuss this matter. But you wanna keep posting sh**. Like I said if your a man and what to discuss this PM me...your the guy that keep's posting BS..... DROP IT. Why do you keep posting about me?....just send a pm to me and stop trying to put on a show for everyone in this forum. I'm beening childish? I've ask you to PM me. But you won't. You wanna keep on and on in this forum posting sh** towards me. Then you backtrack and act like you didn't say nothing lol lol

 

[dankbudz]

quit sending me nasty PM's wvkindbud.

just shows your maturity level. how old are you 21??

 

[wvkindbud38]

Ok guys lets hear it. Do you like standard or femished seeds better? I prefer Fem seeds but do use standard seeds also. I also respect those growers who prefer standard over fem seeds. I really like kali-mist....but you can't get it in a femished seed yet.

 

[summitoker]

in the right situation fem seeds are a huge help.
like everyone said, save time, dirt, nutes, space, etc.

 

[bird]

well here is my opinion on fem seeds. they come from a hermy plant no matter how much stress or chems used. and also it seems to me that genes would be more bottle necked. and i think that seeds are male or female before the sprout, sure when can influance the out come but for my own studys with seeds ive collectd out of bags i bought, that simple lookin at the seeds and seperating the one i think are male and female i get higher f/m ratios. and also if i had money to spend to buy seeds evervytime i wantd to grow, i wouldnt cuz i can make "fem" seeds myself. cuz i remeber readin that jus about any female plant if given the right stress will make pollen as a survival tatic. female makein pollen is a herm, jus like most flowers.

 

[Weedman Herb]

Not to add to the fire ... but ... this wasn't a "sudden influx" IMHO ... it was a fast and steady progression. On the DP note ... the femmed Mazar hermed Bad on me. Henks offerings have done nothing but depress me since he skunked everything (including the Mazar I Shariff) and introduced the femmed beans (also just in my experience and opinion).

 

[subrob]

there is a reason virtually every species of lfe on the planet needs male and female to propogate. male seeds will NEVER go away(knock on wood, cuz if they do, cannabis is finished at some point) and i doubt standard seeds will ever become the exception with feminized seeds being the rule. that being said, people who know ALOT more than i, say it does not hurt the genetic pool. therefore its all good. when i was a little newer, i was scared of males in my garden. now ive got a bit more experience, and playing with my own crosses, im LOOKIN for males everytime i drop beans. EVERYONE should at some point make some seeds. it is FUUUUUNNN. only time will tell if chemical reversal has any impact on the gentic pool in general.

 

[habeeb]

in the right situation fem seeds are a huge help.
like everyone said, save time, dirt, nutes, space, etc.

time - same time to grow out 10 then it is to grow out 5
dirt - you know how much your saving not buying,
nutes - same thing as above ^
space - well then grow out 5 instead of 10 and you'll get 2+ females



there's no reason to make fem seeds, period

 

[hoosierdaddy]

You are so wrong, habeeb.

Growing a haze from seed may require a 12/12 from the start. Dedicating 50% or more of your grow space for something that may get taken out in a couple weeks is very time sensitive. Knowing the gender of the seed allows you to plan the grow from jump street.

You simply aren't using your head, or lack experience to make such a blatant statement.

 

[BONUS BAG]

i wouldn't buy femm but they make since.ive had a haze hemie on me in my grow room an it got to my hasberry.so i have femms an have grown out 15 hashberry haze an they were all alike an tasted like hashberry but the high was better.

 

[greenhead]

Everybody's grow situation is different and anybody who makes a blanket statement such as "there is no reason to make fem seeds" clearly has too many worm castings floating around and polluting their closed mind.

Not everybody has a perpetual grow, or a grow where mothers are kept and clones can be taken. There are plenty of good reasons for people to grow out fem seeds.

 

[Old Yeller]

I'd like to step in here as an old newb who just started re-growing this last march, quite by accident. Planted some ufo bagseeds right next to my tomatoes & peppers, discovered 2 amazing kush phenos and was off to the races.
There was real magic & wonder in watching the plants mature, so now i'm addicted for life. I've wanted males since the beginning, even if it was just for studying the different growing traits. I don't really have an interest in creating the perfect female growing machine, hell, i just got some real genetics (maple leaf indica, rm hashplant, blubonic, white satin, satori) & i especially look forward to (breeding) males & fems + slinging pollen. At this point i don't think i could just run one strain because it's so interesting to finally harvest the best pot i've ever smoked & have 3 or 4 different tribes running around in my tent at the same time.
Was just on seedbay & saw what appeared to me to be more fems being offered than 6 months ago. Always found myself just clicking on the "regulars" for some reason.
It's sorta like when my wife was pregnant (before ultra-sound) & we didn't know (boy or girl?) stuff & it was AMAZING, the awe & surprise of (both) my new babies...
In a similuar way, plants have been doing that to me my whole life - always been growing something in the garden.
To take away the mystery, plant a perfect female garden, harvest X amount per plant, use this light etc., etc., well, it just doesn't leave enough room for mistakes, caos, and discovery.
my3cents,
(With GREAT respect to all the big & little people preserving the original strains of one of the most important plants on the whole planet...)
OY

 

[Wannabreed]

Hi, please for the very few i know let me give some input

Do them yourself, using some silver nitrat stick, and using 2 "true" females of your choice.
Using those regular parents you will get nice females F1. So imo dont buy female seeds.
Except maybe those that are a cross of 2 well know females elite cuts ? :smile:

After that how to check the full lineage of a seed in the last 10 generations, maybe at a time some methods where used instead of a regular male x female ...

 

[hoosierdaddy]

Wannabreed, the part about using the "true breeding female" is the problem.
How many are taking the time to find these true breeders? Who has the space needed for a proper selection?

No, people use whatever plant they have, and pass on the genetics of that plant.
If the plant has hermie traits, they are perpetuated.

Stressing for yourself is quite fine, IMO, no matter the genetic map. It's when we pass the genes around that the problem starts.

 

[el gordo]

i think we should also look this feminised phenomenon not only from the consumer's demand point of view, indeed it's also cheaper for most seedbanks that are doing feminised seeds, self a given clone or cross two of them than test the genetic capabilities of a group of males.

 

[Hazeseeker]

Feminised Seeds - the skidmark of the Canna Industry!

only ever tried Feminised seeds once and that was around the time i started growing,
new grower on the scene, hear about these 100% guaranteed females, supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread and promising you gold.
it promises you gold but instead it gives you hermies and bad karma.

IIRC out of the pack of 10 seeds i got 3 males, 3 hermies and the females that were left were about as bad a representation of a Cannabis plant as you could hope for.

IMO there's 2 types of seed companies out there,
you've got your Breeders,
who go through all the labourous work of countless travelling, searching, looking + selecting upon selecting in the hope to improve their breeding stock - the working man's way.

then you've got your seedmakers,
jumping from point A to point Z the fastest and quickest way imaginable,
an all feminised seed maker will say they do this for 2 reasons:

i. to cope with the huge demand from growers who demand treated feminsed seeds.
ii. to protect their strains from copy cat companies taking and using their strains and marketing it/them as their own.

IMO the real reason is plain and simple,
it's the quickest + fastest way to make a quick buck,
and there's zero effort, zero skill, zero professionalism in their 'breeding' armory as the seedmakers only need 1 plant, 1 phenotype to literally make a £$million$£,
where's the hard work and integrity gone into that?.
and back to what i was saying at the start,
your promised gold,
but infact you've ended up with fools gold which is riddled with hermies while trying your best to grow out the works of a seedmakers dirty conscience

:smile: sorry for the rant, feminised seeds are not my cup of tea :smile:

peace