help!!!!

[bigd21]

SOIL:

How long has this problem been going on? about a week
What STRAIN are you growing? westside
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?)clone
What is the age of your plants?35 days flowers
How Tall are the plants?10-12 inches
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?flower
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc)sog
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot)20oz containers
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using? local organic mix
What Nutrient's are you using?How much of each with how much water? How Often? Dr bud mix they have been fed once
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used? unknown
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"?6.5
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen? test drops
How often are you watering? 2-3 days
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding? only fed once a week ago
What size bulb are you using? 300 w cfl
What is the distance to the canopy?
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity) unknown
What is the canopy temperature? 80
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range)71-80
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) 4 pc fans 2 exhaust 1 active intake ( one passive also) one for circulation
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? no moving air in the box
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist? no
Is your water HARD or SOFT? using r/o
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched? no
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when?no
Are plant's infected with pest's?no

Fed them the dr bud mix and thes spots started towards the top of the plant not sure if its burn or cal/mag def from using r/o





same plant before it got burned

 

[wygram]

what's in the "dr bud mix" and how much? and yes... if you're using r/o water you should supplement with cal-mag

 

[stihgnobevoli]

how close to the lights are your plants? do the top leaves curl and twist as well as get brow/burnt? look like too close to the light.

 

[bigd21]

what's in the "dr bud mix" and how much? and yes... if you're using r/o water you should supplement with cal-mag

1 tablespoon 5-1-1 fish emulsions 4 dropperfulls shultz 10-15-10 per gallon of water. Many in the micro section use it with great results

 

[bigd21]

how close to the lights are your plants? do the top leaves curl and twist as well as get brow/burnt? look like too close to the light.

not light burn this isnt heat related the burnt leaves pictured are not the top the top set of leaves look fine new growth looks fine.

funny thing is only my clones reacted this way I also have a few that are 12/12 from seed fed the same mix at the same time and they show no problems........ even the mother of the clones has been getting this mix and she is healthy as can be, all in the same soil fed from the same container. i am so confused by this

 

[wygram]

if it isn't light burn, then i vote for a calmag deficency... it's interesting that clones are showing this and not seed plants... the fact that the mother of the clones is not showing this and they are makes me lean toward the calmag, as plants begin to use increased quantities of both in flower

 

[bigd21]

if it isn't light burn, then i vote for a calmag deficency... it's interesting that clones are showing this and not seed plants... the fact that the mother of the clones is not showing this and they are makes me lean toward the calmag, as plants begin to use increased quantities of both in flower

I was leaning more toward that also, going to try and cut my mix using 50% r/o water and 50% tap and see if that fixes it. I am also going to try and use dynagro bloom, with tap on a few and see which works out best.

anyone else agree with the cal/mag def over nute burn?

 

[Marshmello]

I see that your picture shows some leaves with 1 & 3 blades on this clone.
Is this from starting your clone into 12/12 when they are newly rooted?
I read in another thread that this can cause hermies, have you had trouble with this?
I am just trying to learn as much as possible even though my plans are for an ODG.
Thanks bro & Keep It Green!

peAce

 

[bigd21]

I see that your picture shows some leaves with 1 & 3 blades on this clone.
Is this from starting your clone into 12/12 when they are newly rooted?
I read in another thread that this can cause hermies, have you had trouble with this?
I am just trying to learn as much as possible even though my plans are for an ODG.
Thanks bro & Keep It Green!

peAce

yes it is straight 12/12 when rooted, and they have 1,3 and even a rare 4 bladed leaf never had a hermie with the clones.


back on to the prob took some more pics today

leaves that fell off






overall the plants dont look bad except these leaves




anymore input??????

 

[wygram]

i take the calmag back, which definitely is not the major issue going on here... i think that they may be severely lacking phosphorous...

The edges all around the leaves or half of the leaves can be brownish and work its way inwards a bit causing the part of the leaves to curl up in the air a bit. Fan leaves will show dark greenish/purplish and yellowish tones along with a dullish blue color to them. Sometimes the stems can be red, along with red petioles that can happen when having a Phosphorus deficiency. This isn’t a sure sure sign of you having one though, but can be a sign. Some strains just show the red petioles and stems from its genes.
So pretty much the overall dark green color with a purple, red, or blue tint to the fan leaves is a good sign of a Phosphorus deficiency.

 

[bigd21]

hmm that is a pretty good description of whats going on even the purple/red stems, ok going to search for a fix for that also thanks a bunch.........

 

[bigd21]

did some more reading it seems rather its cal/mag or P switching to dynagroo bloom with tap water should fix it.......question though I flushed them thinking it was burn so they dont NEED to be watered, should I water them anyway with the hew hutes so if it is one of the above mentioned deficinecies i can start correcting it????