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Tropical

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wallyduck said:
its pretty hard to maintain the large bushes tropical ,, ive lost more than i can remember .. if i cut it down and let some reveg ,, just a few main branches ,, if it gets more than 6 ft tall they start becoming a problem for me ..

Is it worth the effort of air layering the big bush into six or eight smaller bushes?
 
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guest123

hmmm u could be right tropical ,,, i usually just chop them down and use them for mulch , but taking cuttings instead could work well as long as the mum has potential , i might give it a go if cutting it down becomes an option ,, good call tropical ...
 

Tropical

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Rather than taking cuttings, which seems like it would be a lot of work on such a big mom because cuttings have to be relatively small, I was suggesting air layering. I've never done that before but my friend does it all the time on his mango farm.

By the way, I've had plants veg too big for my space before. I was running dry, so I couldn't afford to waste the leaves. I made cannabutter from the leaves and it worked great. I just had to use LOTS of leaves. I can cook up about three or four pounds of leaves at a time. Once I had around five pounds of leaves boil in one pot.

Here is a visual aid. The aluminum pot in the back is 4 gallons and that's what I used to boil everything. I lined a strainer with cheese cloth and drained the liquid into the brown pot. Then, I squeezed out the cheese cloth over the plastic container. You can see the leaves still in cheese cloth. The beer bottle shows scale. When those leaves were dry, they filled up one of those big yard size trash bags.





As I told you before, I have been thinking about doing a massive grow of Ducksfoot that I would harvest in the first week of bloom. That would be very stealthy and it could give me enough cannabutter to stay stoned for years.
 

PazVerdeRadical

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hello fellow tropical growers :) hope all is good and well :joint:

greetings wallyduck, how much faster do you think plants in general take from seed to finish in the tropics as opposed to nothern or southern latitudes?

that is, do you think out here plants can finish several weeks before they would in non-tropical latitudes?

thanks,

peace!
 
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PazVerdeRadical said:
hello fellow tropical growers :) hope all is good and well :joint:

greetings wallyduck, how much faster do you think plants in general take from seed to finish in the tropics as opposed to nothern or southern latitudes?

that is, do you think out here plants can finish several weeks before they would in non-tropical latitudes?

thanks,

peace!
its something ive thought about quite a lot actually paz ,, im a bit lazy on counting days though ,, but im sure they finish faster in the tropics ,,, in fact i see some of the indoor suited strains that i grow finish faster than they would indoors , but again hard to judge as im not exactly sure when the flowering begins , vs knowing by adjusting your daylight hours ...
the extended twilight that the non tropical places get would surely be noticed by the plants , as u know it gets dark quite fast in the tropics a bit like someone pulls down the blind between 6 to 630 , and this would make a difference i am sure ...
 

PazVerdeRadical

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good day wally :) thank you for your answer; when it comes to the start of flowering, i always choose an arbitrary date when i see the pre-flowers taking off, from that time i start to count as flowering-time/days. because as you said, we do not have the photoperiodic changes to consider.

the crux of the matter with this issue imo is that a lot of the information we have on tropical/equatorial strains, is information of how these plants behave in non-tropical and non-equatorial latitudes, thus the flowering times and overall plant-life information we have is not that accurate...

for example, take a colombian sativa grown in the U.S or Netherlands, they can take about 8 months from seed to finish, but how long will it take from seed to finish in Colombia? i have seen some of my plants be left outside for too long after they were finished flowering because i was expecting a real long flowering time due to the info floating around... i have flowered plants for 40 days and gotten real fat, resin filled, potent mature buds on plants that i was supposed to flower for at least 60-70 days.

we should do some kind of experiment with other growers in other latitudes growing the same strain.

much peace :)
 
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guest123

sounds like an idea paz ,, and yes ive seen the same as u , i m just not able to put my finger on what makes it happen other than just the tropical environment ..
 
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Bluebeard

IMO Paz, I believe the phenomena you are experiencing in particular is more the result of the source of the genetics moreso than any effect of environment. IME, most of the equatorial lines coming out of the US and Europe have a high likelihood of being purely commercial bagseed that has a 1:3 chance of being from anywhere near it is said to be from, and has been hybridized and selected for early finish both intentionally and inadvertently both before and after importation into the destination country. IME, unhybridized lines no matter how good or bad they are, tend not to make it very far outside of their region of origin. This is simply the nature of commercial herb, it makes the majority of the product that travels long distances. That is unless there is a rare individual who possesses good connections and likes travelling to great herb in small quantities just for the sake of bringing them to people who appreciate it. However, since the HID light has caught on people of that sort no longer receive the appreciation they once did, not when they can get a super sticky, fruity, sweet, dense clone of the month that some college kid grew in his dorm room closet.
 

theferret

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hi wally i have been very interested for months in growing one of your strains outdoors but couldent find no information on any other site until i joined here. i am from the uk please could you advise me which type of strain of ducksfoot would be best suited to the uk outdoors
 
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theferret said:
hi wally i have been very interested for months in growing one of your strains outdoors but couldent find no information on any other site until i joined here. i am from the uk please could you advise me which type of strain of ducksfoot would be best suited to the uk outdoors
hi theferret , i have seen ducksfoot grown in the uk a few times outdoors ,, it finished late but apparently handled the frost and was harvested successfully ..
the buds were not the same as youd expect in warm climates , but the guy was happy enough with the smoke and grow ..
i did make a hybrid with a webbed indica as tropical mentioned that was more likely to finish for u , however its not really available , i never released it due to some hermie issues ...
maybe give it a go for fun mate , but dont put all your eggs in one basket so to speak , try something else u are sure that will finish aswell ....
 

Gist

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wow Tropical, that's a ton of leaves you made that butter with--it must be SO STRONG! I use one stick of butter and cook it with about 2oz of dry leaf and trim and can cook up a batch of 35 or so cookies that are very good. I wonder how much all leaf you used weighed... humn...

peace
 

Tropical

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That was around five pounds of trim. It came from a commercial grower. That was just one harvest and it was before he doubled the size of his grow. A former friend of his ratted him out so leo got his entire grow op. It was a big loss for him, but also a big loss or me because I lost my connection.
 
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guest123

shame u live so far away tropical , the stuff i use for mulch would be right up your alley for what u use it for .. it does make really nice black silty looking soil though ..

so hows the season for everyone??
waay to much rain here this year , luckily i anticipated it and put the plants in early ,, some losses to mould and bad weather , but otherwise aok ..
im taking a chance and just putting some seeds in the past week ,, our wet season would typically finish in around 6 weeks , so the plants should do ok if i protect them from the rain in the early stages of growth ..
if all goes well i should be harvesting some nice fat little ladies in the dry times when the nights are cool form the mountain air and the days are still nice and hot , if u plant your sativas at the right time thats the sort of finish they crave ,
hence the late finish of tropical sativas ,, they try to avoid the rain spoiling the flowers , they are still prone to mould if they finish too early .....
 

PazVerdeRadical

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hola mr. wallyduck, quack quack! :)

it is good to hear that you were able to harvest at all; I gather you were in the drowned part of australia rather than the one on fire these past weeks... with such climate it is never easy... it has been raining here too during the so-called dry season, but it seems it will dry up later than expected... I have had minor problems with brotitys (sp?), too much humidity, lost a few buds here and there due to it.
also been having problems with certain seedlings because a gobling (or bird) is yanking them out of the soil... I usually never use a certain date to start planting so I always have one or two flowering plants somewhere, some others in veg. and others as seedlings, try to pop a few here and there every new moon, so it is that time again for me.
lets keep us updated.

much peace and good health :)
 
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uncleho

Hi guys, Nice thread for the Colonel Kurtz Crew, Living up a river in Cambodia can have its advantages, But will present some unique cannabis situations for sure,

Paz I know! What is the problem with the F!@#$N Birds here! I lost about 12 Viet Seedling and they were Quite big 6 inches, about every other year the birds decide to Frag my seedlings, Have to buy a scarecrow or Scare Cat actually
 

Tropic

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Growing at 23°S here... and just lost a patch to 60cm of rain in a couple of days... irony is, a couple weeks earlier it was so damn hot I was afraid they would fry up in the sun (can't be everyday at the patch, located 2hrs away), and now it's sunny again, but damn humid with all that water evaporating back to the skies...

This is an excellent thread, grouping info shared by tropical growers, you don't see that often on forums! It has made me realize than even if some of us are growing at similar latitudes, elevation is also an important factor (I grow at sea level, basically, even had sea water enter a patch during a cyclone once, it took days to dry up as the soil was already saturated with water from the rains - needless to say every plant was ruined), which implies different growing conditions for everyone. Plus, with all the microclimates one can find in tropical areas, we need to get together and gather as much info as possible, I see you guys already have a good start!

Keep it green :joint:
 

candamo

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I will be putting some seeds on a patch in a couple of weeks, the seeds now taking a bath :D. Here i am at 12°South and i get 14 to 12 hours of light throughout the year. Humidity is pretty high here, ill see how it goes...

Will post some pics when i get some.

cheers
 
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guest123

hey paz

hey paz

hola mr. wallyduck, quack quack! :)

it is good to hear that you were able to harvest at all; I gather you were in the drowned part of australia rather than the one on fire these past weeks... with such climate it is never easy... it has been raining here too during the so-called dry season, but it seems it will dry up later than expected... I have had minor problems with brotitys (sp?), too much humidity, lost a few buds here and there due to it.
also been having problems with certain seedlings because a gobling (or bird) is yanking them out of the soil... I usually never use a certain date to start planting so I always have one or two flowering plants somewhere, some others in veg. and others as seedlings, try to pop a few here and there every new moon, so it is that time again for me.
lets keep us updated.
much peace and good health :)


hey paz , yep u guessed right , the drowned part of australia is where i am .. hasnt been so bad the last 2 weeks , but by far the biggest wet season ive seen , quite exciting for those that live on top of the hill ,, and a bit soggy for those on the bottom .. lol ..
i used to do the same as u ,, have a few plants flowering all the time ,, so as not to run short of stash , one of the huge advantages of the tropics hey ,, ..
 
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