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ooga booga!! this is how the cavemen do it!!

I'm planning a 6000w coco grow, in a sealed box with a light mover. Room will be powered by 2 x 30A 240v. I'll split some 120v's from this to run the dehumidifier, A/C, fans, light mover, pumps, basically everything but the lights.

Don't confuse this with one of those "possible grow" threads, this is the real deal... just missing construction materials, A/C, dehumi, and a few other odds and ends to get the room up and running.

Gonna be running a sealed room, planning on using 2x4 studs and R-13 insulation w/ Kraft back facing the exterior, and possibly a vapor-lock film on the interior side. Considering the mold-resistant drywall ($10/sheet vs. $6/sheet), but still looking for non-drywall alternatives for interior surfacing. Found plastic bathroom wall material but at $30/sheet, it's too expensive for my budget now.

Over the course of approximately the next week to two I will document building this room out from scratch including framing, insulation, interior, and equipment.

Using Hydrofarm XtraSun 1000w's with Hortilux HPS's in Sun System SuperSun 2 hoods mounted on a Light Rail 5 + Add-A-Bar. I already have 4 of these magnetics, but wished I had gotten 2 new Quantum Hydroponics' 1000w digital ballasts instead in hindsight. :confused:

Not sure whether I'm going to need another Add-A-Bar for the 4th & 5th lights yet, haven't exactly figured out how I'll lay out the lights in the room yet.



Running a pair of 8" 747cfm Vortex's, one for each row of 3 x 1000w lights. Intake from a 12" rigid duct fed from a window, closed circuit light cooling ductwork.



Got a Can-150 carbon filter + a new 12" (1140 cfm) Vortex to drive it inside the sealed room. Air moved around by 5 x 16" wall-mount oscillating fans.

Planning on running 20# CO2 tanks after seeing what a PITA it is to lug around a friend's 50# tank. Controlled using Sentinel's CHHC-1. I really wanted a Santa Fe Classic dehumidifier, but I'm a bit short on budget and this round will have to settle with a standard portable ~70 pint dehumidifier. Also need to grab a 10-12k BTU window-mount A/C unit as well (mini split's are the way to go for the well-funded, though).
 
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Thanks fellas. Any constructive criticism is very welcome, as I'm pretty new to this stuff as well. The approximate area that I have to work with is 11 x 11, but more than likely the inner dimensions will be less than that, probably more like 9 x 11. Wish I had more space to work with. Not everything is ideal, but it's about working with what I have and making things happen.

Goal for round 1 in this new room is 1.5oz/plant, or ~9# (or ~0.68gpw). I think with a decent environment easily produced by nice equipment, combined with a light mover shouldn't make it too difficult to reach this goal. Eventually I'd love to be hitting those 12#+ numbers but being realistic and taking time to learn this new strain.

I think tomorrow I will be picking up the construction materials and A/C, but dehumidifier's probably gonna have to be ordered from the 'net.
 
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i'll go ahead and pull up a seat.

you are building your grow room with 2x4s frame? like a room within a room? or just insulating a room inside your house?
 
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Not everything is ideal, but it's about working with what I have and making things happen.
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Isn't that always the situation, we could always use a little more space LOL
Awesome plan, stay safe, that's the most important aspect, don't forget that!
BEST OF LUCK! I pulled my chair up and grabbed some popcorn..
 
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Robin_of_Loxxy said:
how are you running your ductwork?
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That's a very good question, one I had to think about myself. In this basement there's only one window situated in the corner. I had originally thought of installing 12" round rigid ducting from the window to serve as intake for the pair of 8" fans that will cool the lights, right back out to the window. This would mean a lot of bends and length involved.

I'm now shying away from that and considering pulling air from a channel in the ceiling (space between 1st floor & basement) that leads to another cool part of the building. Not sure how that will work yet.

:wave: Thanks everyone for taking interest. Been kinda slow the last couple of days procrastinating, cleaning, thinking and planning but I'm ready to break ground very soon now...
 
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Mickymouse said:
Im doing the samething now but a little smaller.Mine is about 8x10 ,16 bucket DWC. I got my frame up. on the inside walls Im gonna use pannada film Its black on oneside white on other real thick 5mm.
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Wow I'd love to see what you have going on!! What size studs are you using to frame, and will you insulate & seal? I half considered using R-19 insulation but I wasn't sure what all I was going to gain, especially in a basement room like this. It also meant having to upgrade to 2x6 studs.

I considered going straight panda on the studs, but I thought against that for a few reasons:

  • Too easy to rip / punch holes in the wall
  • Doesn't cause a tight, insulated seal as easily as rigid material / surfaces such as drywall
  • Doesn't stay as flat, not as easy to clean

With the dimensions I'm planning it will leave me a some space for a 400w/3x3 mom room outside, various ductwork / fans, 55 gallon drums, and a small area left over for a "work bench" in a separate closet.

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Found it here for best price.

http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/panda-55-mil-white-black-poly-film-p-1712.html
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My local hydro shop gives it to me for $60/roll. :D
 
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wavedash said:
i'll go ahead and pull up a seat.

you are building your grow room with 2x4s frame? like a room within a room? or just insulating a room inside your house?
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Yes sir, room within a room (basement).
 
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I'm about to buy 2 light rails for my new flower room and am gonna have 3 1k's per light mover

Was trying to decide between the 3.5 and the 5. Starting to look like I'll just go with the 5 so I don't have to mod out the 3.5.

Is your plan to have all 6k on one mover? (assuming thats why you have the add a bar kit?)

can't wait to see your room start forming. I'll be starting a similar thread in the weeks to come :)
 
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headiez247, yeah I ran into a similar situation with the 3.5 vs 5 and although there's a couple things that a pair of 3.5's can do that a single 5 can't do. Yes I plan on having all 6 lights on one mover, may need another Add-A-Bar Kit though... maybe not, still unsure how I'm going to lay out the plants / room with space so I can move about the room to inspect and care for the plants. Can't wait to see your thread!

Today I picked up a hundred 3 gallon grow bags, deciding that I didn't really want to spend $250 on a bunch of square pots. Although those 2-2.5 gallon square Bato pots are nice, sturdy and reusable almost indefinitely, I like the fact that I can just grab these bags and throw 'em away when I'm done and not worry about washing them, etc. We'll see how they work out.

Also got a brand new aluminum 20# CO2 tank, and waiting on the regulator to arrive.



Still need: 55gal drums, A/C, dehumidifier, DPST relays, #14 Romex, 10/3 MC, drywall, 2x4, insulation, some PVC pieces, and some foam gap filler.
 
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I'm designing an 1800W coco grow with light movers atm and am considering using $5 3 gallon Smart pots instead of the 3 gallon plastic grow bags I'm using now. The investment might yield you more than the ~1g of bud worth they cost each.

I have been looking at Dual Hose Portable A/C systems online and think that is the way I will go when using CO2. They look like they would cool the high CO2 air received from an intake hose, then pump it right back into the room through the exhaust. I'm not sure about it, I am still learning about A/C units.
 
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Been doing a little bit of reading on dual-hose units and found that not all dual-house models are universally safe from sucking out CO2... in fact I think there are a couple of threads about some peoples' dual-hose units sucking out CO2.
 
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Just something to share with you to fill in the lack of progress lately; some friends and I made some BHO out of Sour Diesel popcorn buds...





Scraped the Pyrex resulting in fine shards of glassy oil which we rolled into a blunt. This ain't for amateurs....

 
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Bad weather & other misc. issues is hindering progress, so for now I'm just playing with my Light Rail 5... set it up over my moms, for a 1-light configuration w/o the side bars.



Right now in an otherwise silent room, the motor is a tad bit noisy (I expected it to be near silent) but in an operating room with fans running I'm sure you couldn't hear it unless you were listening for it. I'm pretty happy with the torque and the good traction that the trolly wheel can get on the special rail, but we'll see what's up when there's 6 x ~20 lb hanging off of it.

Looks like I might be getting a Light Rail 3.5 for my future veg room and also for my moms, they're definitely worth the money IMO.
 
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