Stinky ThaiStick..."He Called it ChocoThai"...i was shocked !!

[glock23]

Someone did translate the Chinese characters, and it does just say 'Old Tiger'...

As for origins, the borders of Cambodia and Laos meet at the top of Thailand and the Mekong River flows along them from China, so it's possible it's shipped into China before tying. Dunno - maybe the label is just from the distributor who shipped it over here, and they happen to be Chinese?

But they've been regular here for two years now, and supply seems pretty constant. The thread color doesn't necessarily denote quality, as I've seen some lousy red thread stuff, but this is bomb - very strong and up, but much more tranquil than most sativas - superb cure too. Whoever is growing/shipping this stuff is taking great care, and clearly knows their smoke.

Other irony is that I just posted some of these Thai seeds to someone in Thailand...

The 'Lo' by itself means old, but "Lo Fu" is tiger when put together. That's actually a pretty cool logo on there.

http://www.seedsman.com/en/cannabis-seeds/the-real-seed-company/12-seeds/golden-triangle-akka-12

I saw these yesterday and thought of you! You know, I'd love to do an outdoor run of the Tiger.

 

[lokes]

Glad I'm not the only one still alive that remembers thai stick with opium. Damn that was some the first weed I smoked as a freshmen in high school and it scared the shit out of me.

I couldn't move for like 3hrs.

I just planted some opium poppies for the first time this year, and can't wait to lace some chemdawg with it. Yikes and Yummy. Should make for a good post in about 90dys from now.

 

[ngakpa]

IMHO opium is a good way to ruin decent bud --- can't stand opium, sinister shit and utter filth if you ask me

hey Glock23 --- the Golden Triangle Akka would not be a good strain to investigate if you want something powerful, it is a very mild strain --- grown to get high off yes, but not strong

if you wanted something like they use to make the sticks you should go with the Highland Lao or any similar NLD ganja strain (one of the GN ones, or Mama Thai etc.)

 

[glock23]

Thanks Ngapka. What's NLD? Is the Mama Thai any good?

 

[SevenSeeds]

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this shit was all over ontario, it was alright; I lost the seed I think hehe...liked to see em in a grow workin there ways..this was not opium laced though-peace


- 7Seeds

 

[ngakpa]

Thanks Ngapka. What's NLD? Is the Mama Thai any good?

hey ---

Kalr Hillig's way of classifying drug cannabis - i.e. Cannabis indica

veeery generally I understand it something like this:

NLD = Narrow Leaflet Dominant = generally ganja cultivars, usually subtropical and tropical
WLD = Wide Leaflet Dominant = generally charas/hashish cultivars, usually desert, usually northern

I don't know about Seedsman's Mama Thai - I bought a pack but never had a chance to grow it out

the RSC Golden Triangle Akka is part of the Yunnanese genepool - more WLD, it is still drug cannabis (C. indica) --- found it in an Akka village -- they had bags and bags of very lightly seeded incredibly aromatic buds absolutely covered in trichs --- high was mild though... will mostly be of interest to breeders (eg cross a potent ganja strain with few trichs, to a mild strain like this with tons of trichs, then hunt through the F1s for ideal combination of both)

if you want the really high THC strains you needed to look for NLD ganja sativas

 

[glock23]

Thanks Ngakpa, that's good info! sounds like the Golden Triangle crossed with the Highland Laos might be interesting...

 

[Herbalistic]

I think the opium lacin is BS IMHO!!

What they used to dip these sticks were leftover "water´s" = by products of roin makin in certain way Cannot even imagine how they would "lace" those sticks in sticky thick, black substance

Btw, all the REAL thai seeds I have seen has been bigger than average, just think about the calyx size of a 20+ week flowering strain and it should be pretty clear...

Let´s stop this quessing game Rick, just pop couple of those and throw them straight in da flowacycle! Hmm I think 11.5/12.5 would be good cycle to start with and when the flower production begins drop it like 11/13, or 10.5/13.5

Dont doubt the authencity of Emans sticks, but take note you guys get lot´s of African weed also :wink: Some homegrown Swazi!

 

[Dalaihempy]

I think the opium lacin is BS IMHO!!

hiya Herbalistic no it was real but there was not much of it and not seen often all the years i rember thia comeing in i onoly saw them 3 types and scored them all 3 times lol also saw opiumated hash but you needed to know people to get it.

The opiumated thia or budda sticks as they were also called were a lot smaller than the normal thia sticks.

 

[Rudedewd]

Not all long flowering plants have large seeds, I have panama red seeds that are the smallest seeds that I've ever seen. My panama takes about 18 weeks to be ready and the small seed size seems to be dominant as well as I have crossed it to a few things and all the beans have come out as small as the red's..

 

[Rastatrue]

Hey Now, There's Thaisticks and then herb tied on a stick. I got to smoke real Thai sticks, Very narcotic, I don't know if they were dipped in opium, it was very tasty strong herb. 'Narcotic', as one friend described the high.
Makes folks crazy, once my herbsman got broke into,the thieves only took the cash & the Thai, left behind everything else.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

What they used to dip these sticks were leftover "water´s" = by products of roin makin in certain way Cannot even imagine how they would "lace" those sticks in sticky thick, black substance
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opium is a water soluble and it gets washed out in water in the process of making it - that water in itself is what was tradicionally used in some areas for dipping as far as i know atleast long time a ago..

i have also seen opium mixed hashish - although i personally dont like the effects of it.

after years of smoking all kinds of african import (used to be quite involved in the import scene) it is very easy to tell an asian herb from it - in flavours, looks and effects.

it IS possible to make thai sticks obviously out of african or any bud - but none of the thai sticks i have smoked or seen have ever reminded of african weed.

its is very easy to make thai-sticks anyway - and i made a tutorial on OG but obviously its lost with that site.. i might make a new one depending on how the current sativas develop..

peace all

 

[Herbalistic]

hiya Herbalistic no it was real but there was not much of it and not seen often all the years i rember thia comeing in i onoly saw them 3 types and scored them all 3 times lol also saw opiumated hash but you needed to know people to get it.

Howdy Hempy!!

I made that reply in a hurry using lot´s of generalatizions.. What I meant by "laced" is that the bud/stick is dipped in almost raw opium after made it only slightly less thick. Most dipped sticks im aware of were made by diluting them in roin by product fluids, let them dry and repeat this procedure

Oh, the opiumhash.. I used to love that in the mid- to late 90´s. "somebody" got it imported in Finland some batches from Afghanistan & assumed Nepal. The Afghani one was weaker, but still kept you on the couch with slightly euphoria, while the assumed Nepalese thin hash bar´s were more mixed with it and were some of the most powerfull, diluted hash I have come across in my lifetime! "Somebody" got Nepalese pole´s of hash in two forms, opium one´s which were thinner & were in 8 G pole´s pressed rockhard, so when you put 1 cig and put about 0.2 G into it with little heating, the whole cigdust looked like it only was hash in it

The pure cannabis Nepalese pole´s, were in quantities of 12 G if "somebody" remembers right and were very expertly pressed into that pole shape, because it did fill cigdust made from 1 cig into hashdust with the same tiny amount as the opiumed one..

Those were the days for "somebody"

Not all long flowering plants have large seeds, I have panama red seeds that are the smallest seeds that I've ever seen. My panama takes about 18 weeks to be ready and the small seed size seems to be dominant as well as I have crossed it to a few things and all the beans have come out as small as the red's..

I know that, but we were talking about thai seeds here, right? I hope Hempy & others who have grown real thai can back me up that they usually produce big calyxes with big seeds! At least every pure thai seed I have seen have been bigger than average seed.... Btw, some Indian long flowering sativas are known to produce very tiny seeds also, so im more than informed about the fact that not all long flowering strains produce big seeds -> peace

Bone, do you guys still have that cocahash in Spain? Trying to avoid chemicals nowadays, but that lovely hash with those tiny white/grey spots of coca have always been very pleasant smoking experience at least for me..

Have to go now, I let you know about the uvb when I come back, ok carnalito?

 

[bonecarver_OG]

herbalistic i think those "poles" you say are called fingers - for example like in manali fingers. and yeah man that is some heavy stuff - for me the downside as aheavy smoker in general is - smoking laced i got almost withdrawal on the THC side - and the awfull sickness felt after puffing that stuff for a few days is a no-no in my book. although i dont mind people smoking it - as far as i know its a very effective painkiller for medicinal smokers.

for example in BC canada its possible to get hold of batches of privatelly made ice hash mixed with local opium - as far as i heard from my source - its extremelly potent. i for one wouldnt smoke/eat that. hehe

also i got to say a hash mixed with a good quantity of opium will not make into a dust when heated - it just IMPOSSIBLE since opium and good hash both get very sticky and not directly mulleable. no dust what so ever. could be the bars you talk about were indeed from very potent cannabis in the first place.

in general the manali fingers i have gotten have been rock hard, with no lace, and normally it goes to a chunky dryish powder - because i think it might be drysift hash in the first place - good charras just never gets that dry as far as i know.

opium laced hash can be noted on the fact its very shiny, has some translucency - and the smell and taste is very far from hash - since the opium flavour is something that seems to dominate the mix.

anyawy - as i say i think really cannabis does not improve from mixing with other stuff - but thats my personal flavour but i bet those dark long finish winter nigths need something potent to LIGHT it up!

i have never heard of coca hash - it doesn sound scetchy to me since the products come from different countries.

no one i have talked to hear have heard of it.

it sounds highly unlikelly i gotto say - since the price difference between the two is 10 times.. i wonder where u did hear about that? there is a risk it is a URBAN MYTH

further my research shows no newspaper articles, nor anything notices about this.

im sure it must have been some kind of error? ive been 10 years living here soon and i never heard of it - although i got contacts with people moving a lot.. so id say, based in the information of my contacts etc - this is not usual and no-one has heard of it.

chances are you got adulterated hash in a tuorist localtion?

peace

 

[englishrick]

they are allready germinating............sould have a few pics soon...lets see how they crack

 

[bobthegrower]

for example in BC canada its possible to get hold of batches of privatelly made ice hash mixed with local opium - as far as i heard from my source - its extremelly potent. i for one wouldnt smoke/eat that. hehe

The Turkish is grown for morphene producing opium,whilst the Tasmanian is grown for a high codine content.

Simply dry the bulbs,de-seed,crumble the pods and simmer for a few hours in white vinegar.After half the vinegar has been evapoated, pour the juice out into a large tray and leave in a warm place.After the liquid has fully evapoated you are left with a thin coating of opium. Dust the surface with your favorite ice hash(dried and put through a coffee grinder) and use a paint scraper to start mixing it all together,An electric air heater under the tray helps the process along.

I prefer to use Thai bud hash which gives a pretty insane sensory deprevation head trip......eating more than a gram gets a bit too scary.

Nice looking Chinese stix.

Bob

 

[Rudedewd]

Herb, sorry Bro, I got confusicated. Not hard for me to do seeing I'm always toking when I am reading, lol. I have very little experience with thai as I haven't had any since the 70's, I did plant one seed that I found in a thai stick back then but it was so long ago I can't remember what the seed looked like. That was in like 1975 and I had it growing under an incandescent "grow light" and I hadn't even learned about photoperiod in relationship to flowering yet. I did end up with a very tall scrawny plant but I do remember it had huge leaves. It did show sex (female) but that was about it, of course it never budded. I wish I had that seed now! Anyhoo, I should have realized that you were refering to thai having large seeds. My bad

Rick, good luck with them beans Bro. I hope you find something killer.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

thanks for the info bob

then i presume that procedure can be modified to use to cover sticks of home made "thai-sticks".

for example i have used before BHO - that i smeared (really i threw in the sticks into the BHO-PYREX dish) the sticks with in the last minuts of evaporating.. this made the oil penetrate deep into the sticks.. after that a cure to let the BHO dry out properly.. did not want to heat purge since it would ruin the bud..

so alternative method could be to soak the sticks in the almost evaporated vinegar solution - or let dry and then re-solve into water to dip..

if anyone would feel like it... post pics lol

hm.. sticks dipped in both BHO and opium should be almost lethal.. lol

peace

 

[Herbalistic]

Damn Bob, respect for the wisdom shared

Brother carver... Again I was using wrong word, I was too high, so I used translator and got these for shake(which I now remember)
Finland: jauhe, puru
English:dust, filing, regranulates



I think shake is more accurate transalation than dust example.. Which in fact get whole different meaning in English.. Shiiiit... Should I make living with translations???? Or not

So basicly I was talking about open up cigarette "shake"(?), which will be covered in hash Like I said, I was HIGH

And still are Friend just finished Triangle x Nl x LeopardKush x PureKush which was gifted me in seedform by a blessed bretren, I shared the the cut and now reap the benefits -> DANK!! Sorry for the offtopic..

Rudedewd, It´s all good, you know your sativas, but like witnessed in this thread, there´s sometimes misconceptions when people around globe communicate.. Peace & stay safe!!