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Supervisors Worry Over Issuing Marijuana ID Cards

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URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v08/n965/a01.html


SUPERVISORS WORRY OVER ISSUING MARIJUANA I.D. CARDS

Beginning about the first of the year, San Joaquin County residents will be able to acquire medical marijuana with a doctor's recommendation.

The first step toward carrying out the state-mandated program took place Tuesday, when the Board of Supervisors voted 3-2 to issue medical marijuana identification cards. A public hearing on a proposed $141 annual fee for the ID card is scheduled for Nov. 4.

County Public Health Director Bill Mitchell said that demand for medicinal marijuana cards hasn't been great in San Joaquin County, but he and Supervisor Leroy Ornellas wonder how many will want a card once the card's availability is announced.

"Since the ( state ) law was passed, two or three people have called, somewhat routinely, asking when we were going to implement the program," Mitchell said in an interview after the Board of Supervisors meeting.

Ornellas wonders if demand will explode from three people to 300.

Ornellas, who along with Steve Gutierrez voted against issuing the identification cards, said in a phone interview after Tuesday's meeting that he realizes the Board of Supervisors' hands are tied because it is required by the state, but he voted "no" because of several unanswered questions he had.

"Some of us wondered out loud if we could wait ( to approve them )," Ornellas said "We could have waited, in my opinion."

Ornellas said his primary concern is that a "caregiver" can purchase the marijuana for the patient, but it isn't clear what constitutes a caregiver.

County Sheriff Steve Moore said that the public needs to know what people can and cannot do under the state's medicinal marijuana law. For example, someone who is legally entitled to marijuana cannot sell it or give it to someone else, Mitchell said. And it will still be illegal for anyone to drive while impaired by marijuana, Mitchell added.

The identification card will also help law enforcement officers, for example, because they will know not to arrest someone if deputies find marijuana in their car if they have the card, Mitchell said.

Ornellas said he sympathizes with people who are suffering from disease, but he fears that allowing medical marijuana will lead to abuse of the system.

The program won't start until about the first of the year, Mitchell said, because staff will need to be trained.
 

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County Sheriff Steve Moore said that the public needs to know what people can and cannot do under the state's medicinal marijuana law. For example, someone who is legally entitled to marijuana cannot sell it or give it to someone else, Mitchell said.

Wow. If caregivers can't even give away MMJ to their patients then what good is a caregiver?

Just another example of a cowboy sheriff interpreting the law into his own favor instead of actually reading the law and abiding by it.

Whose the criminal here? The cop who refuses to implement the law, that's who.

He should be tried and convicted then fired then sued.
 
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Remember when you sign up for the state issued id card you go on a list that is then available to the federal goverment....

If I am wrong or incorrect please let me know... that is my understanding after speaking in depth with the folks at both ASA & NORML.
 

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Greyskull said:
Remember when you sign up for the state issued id card you go on a list that is then available to the federal goverment....

If I am wrong or incorrect please let me know... that is my understanding after speaking in depth with the folks at both ASA & NORML.

No, that is incorrect-- When you are entered into the State ID Card Program, your name is encrypted into a data base, and cannot be accessed by anybody-- The card you get has your picture and an ID number-- That is how they verify it--
 
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Are you sure there isn't a list that could be available from the state to the federal goverment agencies at the fed's request... not a public list? There is no doctor/patient privacy involved.

I have seen the cards. Lots of them. :joint:
You get them verified here: www.calmmp.ca.gov

BTW I am not trying to stir the pot just want to make sure we are all safe as growers! Mahalo!
 
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Greyskull said:
Are you sure there isn't a list that could be available from the state to the federal goverment agencies at the fed's request... not a public list? There is no doctor/patient privacy involved.

I have seen the cards. Lots of them. :joint:
You get them verified here: www.calmmp.ca.gov

BTW I am not trying to stir the pot just want to make sure we are all safe as growers! Mahalo!


Don't worry bro you are not stirring up the pot. You are asking some very legitimate questions, and this reason alone, is the reason why a lot of growers, and marijuana users will not get there 215 ( of course sick patients) .


There has been 2 incidences in Hawaii, and Seattle where DEA confiscated all state records unlawfully. It is completely against the law. Does it happen? Yes it has! Has California's list been compromised with over 400,000 patients? Well its our government, and they can do what they want ( like Hitler only thousands of them). But according to records, It is against the law in 215. SB420 made it your choice if you wanted to get a state card. I think its still really confusing of whats going on, and whats legal.

My guess is they are trying to confuse the shit out of everyone so this system fails. It wont. We wont. and FUCK THEM!

Peace my brothas and sista's,

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Edit. I have never and never will get my State ID card. I dont care if its mandatory. 215, what the voters voted on, does not state anything about id cards or the program there of. Sb420 makes it an option. Now we have the attorney general telling us what to do. After California Supreme court Ruled that SB420 was unconstitutional because the voters voted on prop 215. And it can not be changed by any form of government except the Voters themselves.

So 1 month later, now California's attorney general comes out with "guidelines" with mandatory card system. I dont freaking think so. Kiss my ass.

If you're not out there selling Weed, or being stupid ie. Growing and telling everyone and there mother. Then you have nothing to worry about getting busted. If you do. Your letter of recommendation from your doctor will be ALL THAT YOU NEED IN COURT. Its what your doctor says. Not a Card system..... as if we are criminals and have to act like sexual predators. Kiss my ass.


And the ones who do get a card. Will be those sellers, and dealers. and people abusing the system. The reason i say that is they have more reason to fear. Or just plain Paranoia (which we know pot heads don't get right?). You ask me its a trap. But they have my info from clubs they have busted over the years who kept records....... So all in all. It don't really matter i guess. Unless you really have something to fear........
 
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kmk420kali

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The MMJ Community is all in it's infancy right now-- Legalization has been sought for decades...but the current MMJ movement is rather new--
"Do I get a State card or not?" That is a question many are asking-- IMHO...if it is out there, I will take it-- If the Gov will offer me a chance to smoke, grow, and distribute Marijuana...I will take the chance-- Fuck man...I have been in Prison for worse things--
Here it is in a nutshell-- I work at a fairly large Co-op...and we only distribute to qualified Patients...My boss has a State Patient, and Caregiver card, has bought a permit to Cultivate, store, and distribute Medical Marijuana--
We had a house busted last year, and was recently dismissed--
I have every confidence that even if raided, I will do no Prison time--
Good enough for me-- :rasta:
 

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