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Swiss to legalize cannabis 30. nov 2008

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hybridsfromhell
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sources says that swiss maby will legalize cannabis completly. plz inform us if you know more

sorry the google translate!

http://www.hanfinitiative.ch/

The Federal Constitution is amended as follows:

Article 105a (new) Hemp

1st The consumption of psychoactive substances of the hemp plant as well as their possession and purchase for their own are unpunished.

2nd The cultivation of hemp psychoaktivem for their own criminal is free.

3rd The federal government shall adopt rules on cultivation, production, import and export of and trafficking in psychotropic substances of the hemp plant.

4th The federal government will take reasonable steps to ensure that minors are adequately met. Advertising for psychoactive substances of the hemp plant as well as advertising for dealing with such substances are prohibited.


The drafting of necessary laws or regulations in detail is the responsibility of the Parliament. While this must be the above-mentioned article implement, but has some leeway here. For example, it is clear that where now no longer be allowed to smoke, no sure future hemp smoking.




Federal referenda, 30 November Drug policy in the People's bench Hanfinitiative and referendum against the Narcotics Act. The Swiss vote on 30 November on a new drug policy.

The Swiss vote on 30 November on a new drug policy. At the end of November, the Hanfinitiative and the referendum against the revised Law on Narcotics vote. The sovereign can therefore separately for cannabis decriminalization and legal roots of the Four Pillars drug policy approach (including medical heroin charge) observations. Federal referenda, 30 November se The Swiss voters tend not to know, radical solutions. Thus, it is also in the drug policy in the late 1990s, both popular for more repression ( "Youth without Drugs") as well as vice versa for far-reaching criminal exemption ( "Droleg") clearly rejected. Beelendet images of open drug scenes, said the sovereign 1999, however, clearly yes to reverse federal decision on the medical heroin charge. Since then, the Swiss based drug policy on pragmatism and a sense Notrecht. Because the experiment, since the 1980s, developed policies on the four pillars of prevention, treatment, harm reduction and repression by law to enshrine, has so far failed - not the voters, but at the parliament. Display . . The ruins Well it's four years ago that the National Assembly session in the summer of 2004, the Federal template for a revision of the Narcotics Act (BetmG) bachab has skillfully - he joined not only on the template. The Federal Council subsequently withdrew from the responsibility and left it to the Parliament, the ruins themselves clean up. On the basis of a parliamentary initiative nationalrätlichen Health Commission is also done - but under exclusion of cannabis controversial issue. This was in a referendum initiative so that voters now coming on 30th November on two separate templates are can have a partial revision of the Narcotics Act (BetmG), which the Four Pillars drug policy concept enshrined in law, as well as on the so-called Hanfinitiative what the decriminalization of cannabis when required. The position of the NZZ The position of the NZZ zz. The NZZ recommends both the revised narcotics law as well as the Hanfinitiative for adoption. From experience that there is a drug-free society will never give, followed by the realization that a just built bans on drug policy must fail. Otherwise, as our opponents of the two templates weismachen want to exist in reality, not just addiction and abstinence, but in between lies a broad field of risk to highly risky consumption of psychoactive substances - are now illegal drugs, drugs, alcohol or Tobacco. Thus, the strict separation between legal and illegal substances unhelpful, the addiction problem at the root to grasp. Experts recommend that the policy has long been a sensible balance between the respect for the citizenship and the right of society to security and order are looking for. The revised narcotics law as well as the Hanfinitiative thus, at least in the right direction. A purely on abstinence, prohibitions and repression established drug policy on the other hand, the bottom line leads to higher social costs - and it is unliberal, because in this concept for the people responsible for closing is no more space. Firstly, the Narcotics Act: With this revision, the Commission for Social Security and Health of the National Council the supposedly "undisputed" elements of the 2004 revision of failed new hang up. The presentation describes the coarse measures of the Four Pillars policy and determines the distribution of tasks between the federal government (coordination, monitoring) and Canton (implementation) notes. Furthermore, the treatment of heroin definitely be enshrined in law - the federal decision this term expires at the end of 2009. The new template allows the medical use of narcotic drugs, such as cannabinoids agents at multiple sclerosis. Regarding the criminal provisions of the revision, however, sees no far-reaching changes. There are tighter in the protection of minors and vice versa mitigating circumstances for dependent retail dealer: From a criminal liberalization, as the opponents complain, you can take this mini revision no talk of that. The presentation was in the National final with 114 against 68 votes approved, the Senate unanimously said yes. The fractions of FDP, CVP, SP and Greens stood behind the revision, while by the EDU and the SVP has taken the referendum. For the opponents, the "liberalization" too far, the goal of abstinence (which is explicitly included in the article purpose was) too little will be taken into account. Specifically, the opponents reject any charge of narcotics to addicts from. They fear a compulsion to set up drug focal points in the cantons and also criticize the prosecution of trade through the revision would be difficult. On the other hand, the proponents of the submission to the success of the Swiss drug policy, both in terms of the health of those affected as well as the security and order in public spaces is concerned. The heroin supply and medical services for low-addicts (Fixerstübli, syringes, etc.) would have the negative consequences of drug use markedly reduced. Hanfinitiative Before the cannabis issue has been pressed the Parliament - despite pressure from the people's initiative "for a sensible policy with hemp-effective protection of minors" (Hanfinitiative), which was filed in January 2006. The members of the Health Commission wanted through an indirect counter-proposal from the criminal free use of cannabis for adults to BetmG record, but it is the resistance of the National Commission sister failed. Federal Parliament and thus recommend the Hanfinitiative without a counter-proposal to rejection. The desire one wants to use, possession, cultivation and acquisition of cannabis entkriminalisieren, on the other hand, the federal government to regulate production and trade and to ensure the protection of minors. The initiative is according to the Federal Council with international commitments, provided that the terms of regulation of production and trade is a solution within the meaning of the so-called prioritization at the prosecution would be pursued. The wording in Hanfinitiative The wording in Hanfinitiative The federal se people's initiative "for a sensible policy with hemp-effective protection of minors' demands following the Federal Supplement: Article 105a (new) Hemp 1 The consumption of psychoactive substances of the hemp plant as well as their possession and purchase for their own are unpunished. 2 The cultivation of hemp psychoaktivem for their own criminal is free. 3 The federal government shall adopt rules on cultivation, production, import and export of and trafficking in psychotropic substances of the hemp plant. 4 The federal government will take reasonable steps to ensure that minors are adequately met. Advertising for psychoactive substances of the hemp plant as well as advertising for dealing with such substances are prohibited. The cross-initiative committee "Pro minors - against drug crime" argues with the ineffectiveness of bans, only to the high costs resulted in the prosecution and also promoted organized crime. Production, trafficking and consumption of cannabis could be legal only in a controlled environment, the initiative also quit the arbitrariness in the enforcement of the cantons. On the other hand, the opponents argue, the initiative trivialize the use of cannabis and send wrong signals to the youth from. They also warn against problems that may arise for parents and teachers alone. The National Council said representatives of the SVP, the CVP and a majority of the FDP group against the initiative - the liberal later, however, have their delegates to the just-Yes Parole decided. For the initiative to put SP, Green and minorities from the bourgeois series. In the Senate joined the initiative on a lot of understanding among representatives of all parties. The Council decided but with a narrow majority, rejected the initiative - although he whose contents still a few years earlier had advocated.
 
Hope everything goes well and it can be really legal and more countries follow the same example
It would be a perfect and nice place to live while planting some extensions of our favourite plant... :rasta:....and just not only dreaming it!

Peace
 

SuperHemp

Member
*crosses fingers*

The more European nations that decide to legalize the better. The effects of legalization in the NL has been extremely positive and if more countries follow then the debate might come up to the EU boardroom in the future, and if they decide to recommend EU members to legalize then the world will probably follow sooner or later as well. Keep your fingers crossed guys.
 

mriko

Green Mujaheed
Veteran
The effects of legalization in the NL has been extremely positive

uh ? Netherlands have NOT legalized cannabis !!! It is only a policy of tolerance so as to separate the cannabis market from that of the hard drugs.

Not part of the EU, but us EU citizens can work there freely. :)

controls at the border can be tough actually, and if they legalize, my, French customs are sure gonna have loads of fun searching all suspect-looking guys coming back form Swizerland ! I wouldn't think a single second about going there for scoring...

if more countries follow then the debate might come up to the EU boardroom in the future, and if they decide to recommend EU members to legalize then the world will probably follow sooner or later as well.

That's quite unlikely I think. Few years ago, the European commisssion has acknowledged that the politics of repression was a total disaster and that new ways to deal with the dope problems should be found. It was recomended that countries should rather act on prevention and information first, and do less repression.

I don't think there's a single country of the EU (maybe UK ? )who has followed the Commission's advises.

Take Fucking-France, where I live, here the motto is "cannabis makes you schizo". Was already like that when I started almosst 20 years ago, and it's still today. Yeah, in 20 years, there hasn't been the fraction of a slightest step forward in term of knowledge and prevention about cannabis. Now we even sending our bloody army to catch the hash-packed speedboat crossing the strait of GIbraltar.
Cum-swallowing president Sarkosy will never ever allow such a thing to happen. And probably no other either as, the french people being totally brainwashed & ignorant oon that matter, any positive change in that field would be like a political suicide. And none of our so-called "leaders" is reay to loose his power for a bunch of (potentially dangerous schizos) dope-heads. Plus, we're the kingdom of Pharmaceuticals company which have a truly HUGE power of decision in France and they sure don't want to hear about legal cannabis, too much money loss for them (I'm not even telling you about the Alcohol-maker lobby !)!

Swizz smokers are lucky ones if this comes to real, and it will be very interesting to watch how the things evolve afterwards. how is it going to be produced ? Organic Cottage-style or large scale production with a real industry growing up ?
See what has been done to tobacco, from a teacher-plant, it has been turned into a nasty chemicals-filled poison ! And in the case of an international legalization that's what they'll do with our plant, I have no doubt about that !
That's what worries me about large-scale legalization, it could do lots of harm to our plant (should I even say "our culture"?) actually. If it get treated like any other merchandise we are in for loosing big, very big !

Irie !
 
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White Rabbit

Digging in the garden
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May this plant , which deserves freedom, prosper and flourish in the Alps! All my good energy and vibes out to the Swiss for being leaders in liberty and humanity. PEACE AND LOVE!!!!! Beautiful country with beautiful people. Think positive. Think Peace.

WR
 
Im surprised there are not more replies to this thread, this is huge! This is only 8 days away.

Edit- Over 800 views , less than 20 replies?

Its not like its impossible to legalize weed,if all of us combined our efforts it will happen.
 
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Polle Pot

Member
wow that would be great. Pick up some nice smoke in a coffee shop, then head for some peaceful trekking in the Alps.
 

9Lives

three for playing, three for straying, and three f
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SirSmokeAlot. said:
Im surprised there are not more replies to this thread, this is huge! This is only 8 days away.

Edit- Over 800 views , less than 20 replies?

Its not like its impossible to legalize weed,if all of us combined our efforts it will happen.

Lol same here..

I'm checking wikipedia every other day to make sure i am not dreaming.. :laughing:
 
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CMoon

Polle Pot said:
wow that would be great. Pick up some nice smoke in a coffee shop, then head for some peaceful trekking in the Alps.

that could be me you hear yoddling :laughing: with recent reports of coffee shop closures in dam to come in a few years ! maybe Switserland will be the new weed mecca :joint:
 

PazVerdeRadical

all praises are due to the Most High
Veteran
mriko said:
See what has been done to tobacco, from a teacher-plant, it has been turned into a nasty chemicals-filled poison ! And in the case of an international legalization that's what they'll do with our plant, I have no doubt about that !
That's what worries me about large-scale legalization, it could do lots of harm to our plant (should I even say "our culture"?) actually. If it get treated like any other merchandise we are in for loosing big, very big !

Irie !


good day mriko :)

we share some of the same concerns regarding cannabis legalization; one of the ways in which a safer legislation for cannabis can come about is by designing a legislation for it that prevents the en-mass commercialization of the plant, moreover, it should also prevent the marketing of it.

the idea would be that cultivation, posession and consumption of the plant be legal, however, there must be law conditions that prevent the plant be introduced into main-stream culture.

afterall, we want it legal so the that this nazi-like persecution of ganja-users ends, we do not want it legal so a bunch of idiots start to smoke and grow just because it is "cool" and things like that.

because as it is, we still need to separate the true ganja culture from the mtv american stoner stereotype the media has created.

paz y salud :)
 

Hazelnuts

Member
I live in Switzerland, and to be honest the chances of weed getting legalized don't seem too big so far. I'll be voting for sure though, let's hope for the best
 
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