Is there a best place to get White Widow?

[sir_NiceGuy]

What about the fabled Aloha 98 White Widow that is much revered as the very best, and is their current gear even close to it?

Hi Thuders77. I wonder about the Aloha 98 White Widow too. It did receive alot of acclaim a few years back.

Just before cbay got nabbed I managed to scoop Blockhead x Aloha 98 White Widow and Calizahr x Aloha 98 White Widow.

I know these crosses won't resemble the AWW much but I'll be happy to see what it does contribute.

 

[AceHaze]

There is also the white widow from de sjamaan. The breeder also claims, that he is the inventor of the original white widow. I´ve never grown any widow, but i think, that de sjamaan, greenhouse and mr. nice all got the "real" genetics...

 

[nick11]

If you want a sativa white widow go with Mr. Nice. If you want a more indica leaning go with dutch passion or Greenhouse. I personally like White Rhino better myself b/c of the shorter flower time plus the buds are bigger and just as trichome coated if not more.

 

[b8man]

Or if you want a very well respected strain which doesn't stretch as much as WW - look into Paradise Seed's Nebula - which is a white widow cross.

You've really got a lot of options. Is there any reason you'd singled out white widow TrueBlu?

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

I'm glad someone mentioned them because I was wondering about greenhouse myself.

Interesting point there, because someone who didn't know any better like myself, probably would have thought that greenhouse would of had the best White Widow with all their cannabis cups, and stuff.

Well, sometimes appearance deceives.

Here's what Shantibaba himself has to say about his ex-partners in the Greenhouse Seed Co (taken from the following thread:http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=642070#post642070), and Shanti is one of the most knowledgeable breeders and most respected persons in the biz, if not 'thee most'...

Hi All

well most of you are clear about your experiences with Arjan's seed post 1998 when i sold him my half of the company and left to Swiss setting up the Mr Nice Seedbank at the same time.

Since 1998 I must have answered several thousand complaints against Arjan's seed which he sells under GHSco. He will never admit it but he lost or killed most all plants that were left to him so he basically buys in seed from Ingemar(which is unpredictable at best) or tries to avoid true breeding by using hormones to feminize seed. The reason he feminizes seed is two fold, one it sells well to beginners or people wanting to only get females, and two because he has no idea of what male to breed with...nor does he have the males so as an alternative use the hormones to make seed from the female...a job anyone can do. The only problem now will come when people grow his types. And just a small tip for anyone who really wants to know, the loudest sound comes from an empty barrel...that is why he has god knows how many strains named after his own self...is it ego or insecurity...I will leave it to you to figure.

One last thing is if anyone of his internet sites dealt with complaints my life and work load would be so much lighter. A self acclaimed king...but actually a glorified dope dealer nothing more nothing less. Here endeth the story...all the best Sb

Hi NG

well GHSco really does not make any money nor has it in the past. The reason it looks like it does is due to the amount of advertising it has to do to keep up its image. Obviously it works as even people like you believe the visuals. Basically spending between 25-35000 euros a month on advertising can make a company look like a good one but the real test for a company is in the product and service capacity. As I always say the empty barrel makes the biggest noise!
The major reason I moved to Swiss away fom Holland was to try to set up a medical Cannabis company and considering Holland is really limited to dealing cannabis, and Swiss is full of pharmeceutical companies it was an obvious decision for me.
What I did in Swiss was a dream come true...in time you will understand that as I am in the process of making a few short films about what I set up in the 4 years in Swiss. Holland I still consider the kindergarten of growing and Swiss was University...anyone who was there could probably vouch for that.
As like anything you do with passion it is never the money that is the main objective to begin...if it is you have a limited time in that business. So be careful what you wish for my friend and do not always believe what your eyes look at. The world can be a very deceptive place, as too can so called friends.

Stay safe and do a good job at what you do, since that is all that counts in the end.All the best SB



You shouldn't take for granted what other people say, but personally I would go for the guy that chooses the plant over the money.

 

[Thunders77]

Much respect to Shanti for his integrity,as he makes it quite clear that his aim is true. Although I still wonder about the actual quality of Greenhouse seeds, and where their breeding stock did come from after Shanti left?
I know GHSC does get bashed here for their marketing and business ethics, but if they do indeed produce decent plants that's what I would like to know.

 

[trueblu8]

Yeah I would like to know too. Someone said that Franco is the only one that knows what he's doing over there. And I remember in one of the videos that greenhouse has on their site, or on youtube, I forget which strain it was, I will have to go back and check, I think it was one of the hazes, Arjan invites Steve Hagar from High Times magazine over to be on the video and say a few words, and he kind of says, half jokingly, half mockingly, yeah, how'd you win the cup this time, you swayed all the japanese votes with that free sushi you were giving out didn't you? I thought that was funny as hell, but shocking at the same time. I finally found it again! It was in the Hawaiian Snow grow video, skip to 4:40.

Thanks for that post Rosy Cheeks. Good to know the inside scoop from someone that's well respected in the community.

 

[southflorida]

trueblue...if you want the real original...go with the black widow...if you want price go with nirvana white widow...or sensi (white label) white widow

if you are just starting out growing indoors and you want to grow the white widow...buy 20 nirvana seeds (white widow) 10 seeds and chrystal (northern lights x white widow cross) and grow them both....I am sure you will be happy

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

Much respect to Shanti for his integrity,as he makes it quite clear that his aim is true. Although I still wonder about the actual quality of Greenhouse seeds, and where their breeding stock did come from after Shanti left?
I know GHSC does get bashed here for their marketing and business ethics, but if they do indeed produce decent plants that's what I would like to know.

GH has been in business for ten years now since Shanti left, so I don't think they're quite as bad as Shanti stated (a few years back).

I'm sure they've got some decent strains running. The question is, where did it all come from?

You know, I could cross a few plants of top shelf genetics, stick my own name on it, spend X amount of $ on marketing to get the word out, and there you go. It wouldn't be too hard, and probably quite profitable.

But you can't compare that to skilled breeders that have painstakingly roamed around the world to find good genetics, then spent years at developing them for professional cultivation. And not for the purpose of getting rich, but for the love of the plant. There are a few of those around, they're rare but they exist.

Anyone interested in Rosy's Ultra Haze?

 

[petal]

about as much as I'm interested in Neville's Haze

 

[White Rabbit]

if you want price go with nirvana white widow...or sensi (white label) white widow

if you are just starting out growing indoors and you want to grow the white widow...buy 20 nirvana seeds (white widow) 10 seeds and chrystal (northern lights x white widow cross) and grow them both....I am sure you will be happy

Nirvana White Widow is great, well said.

 

[K.J]

Black Widow from MNS, no other.

I've been looking for these. Anyone know where to source them?

 

[hubcap]

Mind you though, personally I've always preferred WW's sister plant the Misty over the WW. She's got less character in smell and looks, but the high is more energetic and creative, while the WW high is more numbing, and she can tip the scale in yield over WW (depending on pheno).

...funny you should mention a "sister," Rosy Cheeks, because, ive found some very nice plants in HGFs version of K2. (which, if im not mistaken, is, also, a WW sibling)

...for what its worth to the original poster, ive run,
and found some great plants in nirvanas offering of "WW" as well.
.....only smoked shantis "black"widow and it was a very nice smoke. well rounded like just about all of shanti/mr nices' offerrings. tasty and potent....always makes for a good med.....


....waay back in the day we got a hold of a version from, i think it was called "the white widow web"(circa 90/91, i guess), that killed 95% of the WW versions more commonly found today (i know...the old..."dont make em like they used to story") ....BUT.....if theres someone somewhere, holding one of those earlier versions....chances are good they'll be lurking 'round here somewhere.....

but for lines available more commonly today in seed form......
look at....

mr nice black widow
nirvana white widow
nirvana misty
homegrown fantaseeds K2

-h.c-

 

[southflorida]

few places get these...they are either very popular or there are some problems at mr.seed with supplying the everywhere

i always check at their site mrnice.nl when I want to know if they have them at their main suppliers that are listed at their site....www.seedboutique.com is one of them


but i would rather buy nyc diezel x milky way from dampkring classic seeds bank

that is soma's nyc diezel crossed with kiwi seeds milky way...believe me this shit will make you feel really good...if you grow them and harvest them right

 

[trueblu8]

Or if you want a very well respected strain which doesn't stretch as much as WW - look into Paradise Seed's Nebula - which is a white widow cross.

You've really got a lot of options. Is there any reason you'd singled out white widow TrueBlu?

Good question. I guess it was because of it's incredible reputation that it caught my interest. The few grows I came across where people were growing it looked great, and most of them were giving it very high praises. Not only that but it's said to be a vigorous, massive yielding plant, and a smooth, powerful smoke, with a great high. So that didn't hurt either.

Anyhow, this being my first indoor grow, I was looking for something that is potent, yields well, but is still relatively easy to grow.

 

[hoosierdaddy]

I thought maybe you were trying to nail down true lineage.
But in your case, I would highly suggest doing the Nirvana 4 pack weekend special at Seedbay. For a total of $80 you can try out four plants with different leanings. You will be able to tell just what fits your criteria from there. Then if you felt like, say a widow or a blueberry fits you, you could search out the originator of that, or close to that which you have grown and tested. Nirvana's gear may not be spot on exactly like the orig product, but it will be easily close enough to give you the character of that strain.

Best of luck!

 

[trueblu8]

Thanks everybody for the great tips, and advice. This forum is great.

 

[OjoRojo420]

Nirvana's White Widow!

Nice priceless phenos in there.

 

[trueblu8]

If you want a sativa white widow go with Mr. Nice. If you want a more indica leaning go with dutch passion or Greenhouse. I personally like White Rhino better myself b/c of the shorter flower time plus the buds are bigger and just as trichome coated if not more.

I was actually considering that before, but then I think I read somewhere that it was a slightly harsher smoke, and that white widow was a little smoother. The fact that it has rock hard nugs though definitely has appeal. Oh and I think I also read that white rhino has a narcotic like high, that will bring you to your knees, basically a couch lock type high, where as the white widow is both couch lock at first, but then more energetic, and cerebral.

 

[deathtosoapbar]

Trueblu8...yeah the white rhino is white widow x afghan, the afghan makes it more narcotic than widow..if u buy a pack of nirvana white rhino u may find a phenotype like widow in that pack..and u might also find a pheno thats more afghan leaning and heavier..meaning u get best of both worlds..thats the good thing about nirvanas genetics being more unstable..more variety!..if thats what your looking for. though like everyone has been sayin if u want real deal widow go for mr nice black widow..btw the real deal white rhino is also available from mr nice its renamed ..medicine man..hop this info helps u and good luck with your choices!