i saw the lucus formula was used with the GH 3 part minus the grow, but can the FloraNova line be used, the 2 part? any one done that? what ratio did you use? for flower. also if anyone has a link to that original lucas formula post id like to see it, couldnt find her. thanks and peace@ut
can u lucus with 2part floraNOva?
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also, the 100-100-200-60/n-p-k-mg target profile, do you multiply those quantities labled on your nute bottle by some majic number to see if it fits the target profile?
and whats up with the .7 and .5 conversions? [email protected]? what is that? and why? i must be missing something
and whats up with the .7 and .5 conversions? [email protected]? what is that? and why? i must be missing something
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trademanny
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Floranova bloom is basically Lucas's formula in one bottle. If you wanna stick to his dosing, 8ml/gal of FNB is equivalent to the 0-8-16 Grow/Micro/Bloom ratios of the 3 part product.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=21119
quantities on labled = % of micro/macro nute's not ppm so no you cant just add them...
.5 & .7 are conversions of ec every tds meter use's ms or a conversion to = ec
EC Conversion
EC1.0 = 1 mS = 10 cF = 500 PPM (.5) 700 PPM (.7)
EC = Electrical Conductivity
mS = Milli Siemens
cF = Conductivity Factor
PPM = Parts Per Million (weight-to-weight ratio of any ion to water)
TDS = Total Dissolved Salts
quantities on labled = % of micro/macro nute's not ppm so no you cant just add them...
.5 & .7 are conversions of ec every tds meter use's ms or a conversion to = ec
EC Conversion
EC1.0 = 1 mS = 10 cF = 500 PPM (.5) 700 PPM (.7)
EC = Electrical Conductivity
mS = Milli Siemens
cF = Conductivity Factor
PPM = Parts Per Million (weight-to-weight ratio of any ion to water)
TDS = Total Dissolved Salts
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cool, thanks for the info. i plan on comparing the FNB with AN conni and seeing what happens. should be cool expierament. i pull a 4x6 every 16 days and have 4 going at a time so comparing will be easy breezy.
ill let ya'll know how the compare.
one other quetion. How do figure out if your nutes meet the 100-100-200-60 n-p-k-mg Profile?
in other words how can i figure out if AN nutes can be used in this way?
ill let ya'll know how the compare.
one other quetion. How do figure out if your nutes meet the 100-100-200-60 n-p-k-mg Profile?
in other words how can i figure out if AN nutes can be used in this way?
http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fourtwenty/articles/profiles.htm
overdrive @ 5 ml/1gal = 15n 33p 50k 14mg
big bud @ 5 ml/1gal = 0n 10p 43k 12s{Sulfur}
bud blood @ 1gram/1gal = 0n 45p 55k
i have not used the conni but i have used the 3part AN it's with in a few PPM's as GH 3 part i found novabloom with budblood bigbud & over drive to be best...
here's what i use 50RO/50 tap{150ppm} ( some strains need cal/mg some don't) nova has lots of cal/mg if i use 100% tap i get a ca/mg loc out if i use 100% R/O i have to use more cal/mg
week 1 = 4ml nova bloom + 1.5g bud blood = 61n 121p 171k 31mg 61ca
week 2 = 3.25ml nova bloom + 3.25ml big bud = 50n 50p 102k 25mg 50ca
week 3-5 6.5ml nova bloom + 6.5ml big bud = 100n 100p 201k 50mg 100ca
week 6 = 3ml nova 3ml big bud 3ml overdrive = 55n 66p 123k 31mg 46ca
week 7 = 5 ml nova bloom + 5ml overdrive = 92n 99p 161k 52mg 77ca
week 8 = flush
i know week 2 & 6 sound weak but i dont dump my rez in between week's and cut it in half for the first dose watching ppm meter...
if you dump rez.....
week 2 = 4.5ml nova bloom + 4.5 big bud 69n 69p 139k 34mg 46s 69ca
week 6 = 6ml nova bloom + 6ml big bud 92n 92p 186k 62mg 46s 92ca
for 9-10 week strains
week 8/9 = 10/6ml overdrive 30/18n 65/39p 99/59k 27/16mg
week 9/10 = flush
overdrive @ 5 ml/1gal = 15n 33p 50k 14mg
big bud @ 5 ml/1gal = 0n 10p 43k 12s{Sulfur}
bud blood @ 1gram/1gal = 0n 45p 55k
i have not used the conni but i have used the 3part AN it's with in a few PPM's as GH 3 part i found novabloom with budblood bigbud & over drive to be best...
here's what i use 50RO/50 tap{150ppm} ( some strains need cal/mg some don't) nova has lots of cal/mg if i use 100% tap i get a ca/mg loc out if i use 100% R/O i have to use more cal/mg
week 1 = 4ml nova bloom + 1.5g bud blood = 61n 121p 171k 31mg 61ca
week 2 = 3.25ml nova bloom + 3.25ml big bud = 50n 50p 102k 25mg 50ca
week 3-5 6.5ml nova bloom + 6.5ml big bud = 100n 100p 201k 50mg 100ca
week 6 = 3ml nova 3ml big bud 3ml overdrive = 55n 66p 123k 31mg 46ca
week 7 = 5 ml nova bloom + 5ml overdrive = 92n 99p 161k 52mg 77ca
week 8 = flush
i know week 2 & 6 sound weak but i dont dump my rez in between week's and cut it in half for the first dose watching ppm meter...
if you dump rez.....
week 2 = 4.5ml nova bloom + 4.5 big bud 69n 69p 139k 34mg 46s 69ca
week 6 = 6ml nova bloom + 6ml big bud 92n 92p 186k 62mg 46s 92ca
for 9-10 week strains
week 8/9 = 10/6ml overdrive 30/18n 65/39p 99/59k 27/16mg
week 9/10 = flush
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dankaholic
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00420 said:
Holy shit dude! Thats the answer i was looking for! my tap is about the same as yours too, so that helps (160-165ppm)
Thanks a lot man.
So what ec do you like to keep your solution at? i got Ak and WhiteRussian from serious, seem to be pretty light feeders. i fig i gota just expierament till i find out the best amount for em, probly go with 800-1200max ppm (not sure what ec thatd be, could probly figure it out, saw a formula around here some where) and go from there.
dankaholic said:
i use a tri-meter (.7)
novabloom @ 8ml is like 900ppm? i would have to double check i have not used 8ml/gal in a long time....
my mix from week 1 400 to week 6 1200 ppm or right in that area it really come's down to the strain some like a lil more some a lil less.... like grape ape i add 1ml per gal of each item listed but for thunk i use 50% of whats posted.
week 7 some strains like 5 ml nova bloom + 10ml overdrive = 77n 87p 198k 38mg 77ca
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dankaholic
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like grape ape i add 1ml per gal of each item listed but for thunk i use 50% of whats posted.
IDK what that means exactly but i think your recipie looks good. i have all those nutes you used and want an easier mix instead of all those AN nutes, pain in the ass, highly not worth it.
youve been a lot help bro. thanks
IDK what that means exactly but i think your recipie looks good. i have all those nutes you used and want an easier mix instead of all those AN nutes, pain in the ass, highly not worth it.
youve been a lot help bro. thanks
dankaholic said:
for the strain grape ape... ( she's a hungry whore ) for week 1 as to this
week 1 = 4ml nova bloom + 1.5g bud blood = 61n 121p 171k 31mg 61ca
i would do this
week 1 = 5ml nova + 2grams = 77n 157p 221k
& for the strain thunk ( not a heavy feeder ) i would go
2ml nova + .75g bud blood = 31n 60p 86k
i used to use the full AN line..... but then slowly started taking shit out to find what worked and what was a waste.... it came down to bud blood, bigbud, overdrive + base the 3 part AN & the 3 part GH are damn near the same infact i was useing one for the other when my store was out.... then made the switch to sensi a + b and hated it..... so went back to GH/AN bloom/micro well about 4 months ago my store had 6 gallon jug's n that was it... so i said fuck it i hear a lot about this nova give me a bottle..... pluged the #'s in with the 3 AN and they are made for each other.... my plants never looked so good.... i dont think i will ever change....
dankaholic
Member
DuDe! i was so stoned when i read your response earlier i thought it said "Like grape ape said, add 1 ml...yadayada"
haha, how funny is that. thanks for the info. makes much more sense when grape ape anint sayin it!
haha, how funny is that. thanks for the info. makes much more sense when grape ape anint sayin it!
killedkilleryo
Member
do u veg your plants or do u just throw clones right into flower and if u do veg what do u use.00420 said:
some strains you have to veg even if it's only for 5-7 days... other's go right in
it all depinds on how im growing... like this time in the colisum i used 25% super soil ( homedepot) 75% perlite (homedepot ) there was plenty of food in the soil to veg for 5-7 days if i where going to veg longer i would pick something up that has N in it... i been thinking about try out Alaska Fish Emulsion Fertilizer 5-1-1 from home depot... in the past i used an or gh "grow"
right now novabloom @ 4ml/1gal is wonderful for my mom's...
it all depinds on how im growing... like this time in the colisum i used 25% super soil ( homedepot) 75% perlite (homedepot ) there was plenty of food in the soil to veg for 5-7 days if i where going to veg longer i would pick something up that has N in it... i been thinking about try out Alaska Fish Emulsion Fertilizer 5-1-1 from home depot... in the past i used an or gh "grow"
right now novabloom @ 4ml/1gal is wonderful for my mom's...
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Green Dave
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Man becarful that Alaska Fish really stinks good stuff but OMG 
dankaholic
Member
00420 said:
00420, the values on my big bud,bud blood, and overdrive are different then what you have stated. they are as follows N-P-K:
overdrive 01-03-04
big bud 00-10-40
bud blood 0-39-25
floraNovaBloom is 04-08-07
now how do you get the 100N-100P-200K-50mg ratio out of that anyway? i see 05-60-76-Xmg if they were all added up. this is where im confused on the lucas formula since its directly based on that particular ratio(100N-100P-200K-50mg).
Can anyone explain this to me?
dankaholic said:
^ that is the % of npk not ppm
if you read what i posted it's in ppm not %
overdrive @ 5 ml/1gal = 15n 33p 50k 14mg
big bud @ 5 ml/1gal = 0n 10p 43k 12s{Sulfur}
bud blood @ 1gram/1gal = 0n 45p 55k
my bottles are the same as your's you need to convert the % into ppm
go to the calc on the bottem end of this page and put in your % and gram's per ml and it will give you ppm
http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fo...es/profiles.htm
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dankaholic
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ohhhhh, i see. didnt know about a calc. that sounds cool.
the anglefire link was a no good tho.
the anglefire link was a no good tho.
