philosophers corner-"think about it"

[Rifman]

I started looking into the recent discoveries around plasma.

http://www.plasma-universe.com/index.php/Plasma-Universe.com

-"What is plasma? We're familiar with solids, liquids and gases, such as solid ice, liquid water and gaseous steam. But heat atoms more, and they 'split' into free ions and electrons"

wait what? there is a fourth state of being? so you can even split steam into smaller particles?

ill try to explain how much i understand, but im no professor!

-what we have thought so far is that the structure of an atom is held together by the force of gravity. the negatively charged electron circles the positively charged proton.

we thought that electrons never could stand alone, but was allways in contact with the gravitational pull of the proton.

we thought that the only way an item could take shape was by gravity pulling atoms together making a structure.

this view gave birth to the theory of black holes being places of infinate matter. a place where the density of mass was so thick that the gravitational pull was sucking everything around it into it. i hope you understand that the bigger the object or mass the more gravitational pull that mass has. well then they discovered that the black holes were actually ejecting matter with the hubble telescope. BOOM blows that theory wide open, and this is how they discovered plasma, in short!

the discovery of plasma means a huge number of things that noone has even begun to wrap their head around yet. one thing that this means is the very real possibility of free galactic energy.

"Just as electric currents generate magnetic fields described by Ampere's law, changing magnetic fields in a plasma (consisting of charged particles) generate electric currents that are described by Faraday's law. The characteristics of the electric current and magnetic field depend on the characteristics and nature of the plasma.

In other words, electric currents produce magnetic fields which in turn produce electric currents. They are sometimes described as a self-generated electric and magnetic fields, and Birkeland currents, and field aligned currents.

Rotating plasma in a magnetic field generates electric currents because it behaves as unipolar generator, also known as a Faraday disk, or magnetic dynamo."
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NOW I ASK YOU ALL IS IT A COINSIDENCE THAT OUR ENTIRE FINANCIAL SYSTEM FALLS APART A VERY VERY SHORT TIME AFTER WE DISCOVER THE POSSIBILITIES OF INFINITE GALACTIC ENERGY?

 

[inverse]

interesting post Rifman. I'm still not sure if i understand what plasma is..gives me something new to read about.

Anyways, i find it fascinating that black holes have been found to eject matter. Is it possible that some black holes attract matter because of their great gravitational pull, and then "spit" that matter out it's other side, perhaps into a different universe? Thus, some blac kholes we observe might be ejecting matter, and some pulling it in?

as far as the financial systems falling apart. the two really have nothing to do with each other at all.

 

[EatCannabisRaw]

I hate when scientists name things after them, lol. Like Faraday discs... man... always made it harder to fricking understand things while studying in college.

I was watching this video from this dude named Hassim, and he basically said aliens could fly their spaceships into a sunspot of a sun...to its core... and then travel to other galaxies through that point of singularity..inside the black hole of the sun.

Just made me realize about that song Black Hole Sun...

Anyways, there is so much neat stuff going on in our universe that is for sure!! Thanks for giving me some stuff to read!

 

[Peat]

How come when I think of plasma, I think of lightning?
And therefore, spark?
And therefore, fire?

These things are not liquid, solid, or gas. And, they are hot...

Disclaimer: I'm high.

 

[Rifman]

inverse: thanks for checking out the post i wasnt sure if anyone would be interested in this stuff. im not sure that i understand all of this either, but the more i read and research the more interrested i get.

as for black holes, im not really sure if i understand this right but ill try explaining what i think is right. afaik these socalled black holes are purely theoretical, they cannot be seen.

infact it is a purely mathematical consept where the only way they would get the mathmatics of the big bang theory, excuse me hypothesis!, confirmed was if they added an unknown factor, which was infinate matter. gravitational pull being the driving force of our univerce had to include this factor in order to make the maths become right.

-the birth of the black hole, which noone could see!

-"A Black hole is a theoretical cosmic object with a tremendous mass, and hence gravitational force, from which nothing, not even light, can escape. (according to the gravity universe theory, the big bang theory)

The Plasma Universe is agnostic on the existence of black holes, proposing that well-known laboratory plasma physics and electromagnetic forces are responsible for certain cosmic phenomena that others attribute to black holes and their gravity. P. F. Browne in discussing magnetic vortex tubes, notes that "There is then no need to invoke black holes, or indeed new objects of any kind."

Some researchers have doubted the existing of black holes. Hannes Alfvén commented on "neutron stars and black holes (if there are any!).", and that "It has been claimed that there exist `black holes' which convert gravitational energy into different kinds of radiation. This cannot be excluded."

here is a great scientific video explaining the new universe as we know it anno 2008:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Universe+-+The+Cosmology+Quest&emb=0&aq=f#

hope this will clarify everything, sry i didnt include this in the original post, but i hadnt seen it then.

about the finance system, well im just asking the question on the basis of these discoveries. i make no conclution, but i was hoping you could elaborate on why you think these things are not connected.

to eatcannabisraw: well i have allso seen loads of illuminati videos, about stargates and ufos and all of that shit. i am trying to keep my head leveled here.

i cant really fathm the philosophy of plasma yet it is too new for me. but theoretically according to recent plasma theory, energy flows freely in deep space, the dark matter we see is 99,9 % of everything, and energy flows through it without gravity influencing it.

theoretically plasma makes space/time travel possible. im not going to comment on the maya calendar and all of that freaky shit, but if you have opened your mind to this, and have no prejudice. try to look at this music video released 13 oct 1984 (today is 13 oct 2008).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbCriO8Dpt0

if you know about the illuminati, about stargates and about the maya calendar and the ancient 5000 year old semittic tablets showing our galaxy. if you know about that and really listen hard to the lyrics, and look at the symbolism, the checkered floor especially. that song is over 20 years old, older then the internet! that is freaky as hell!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZQQIKr9buw&feature=related

here is another one, listen to lyrics again. listen hard and try to put into context what you know about plasma and all that other occult shit. again 25 years old and it is freaking me out atm!

to peat: you are ofcourse right. lightning is plasma, im glad you asked a fact based question, im half ahsamed of what i wrote above lol and dont worry you are probably not as stoned as me anyway hehe

listen guys this recent thirst for knowledge that has come upon me lately, started with me watching the zeitgeist movie a year ago or so. now that was an interresting video, if you havent seen it : http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ . it is however very dangerous to take this and or any other information to be a fact, it is imparative for you to relate this information to yourself. do not go about feeling like a victim!

by portraying this information i come across, i do not wish to say that i nesessarily believe in it or that i agree with it. i just know there are lies everywhere, and the more information i have about anything will make me ever more able to distinguish between fact and fiction. no matter how far fetched that information is to begin with.

i follow the flow of information and it has taken me from our economic system via human mind into space and back again. and i see the same patterns everywhere. we are all the same is what comes back to me whenever i ask a question. all built of the same.

think about it, is there ever a situation ever, that you didnt identify with atleast alittle bit? you know intuitively what to do, instantly, allways! you recognize everything if you look hard enough, nothing is strange really.

happy info hunting everyone 1<3

 

[Rifman]

i just realized i have a perfect example of how plasma works. and free energy travels.

one word, light!

now as i push a button on my keyboard that signal goes through my wireless connection(!) to the computer via the wireless radio modem through the 3G mobile antenna system to a central connected to wiring that connects to other antennas that send the signal to your computer that sends it to the screen. the screen sends that signal to your eye.

now think about that! did that signal follow the laws of gravity?

i applied energy to an intention and sent it exactly where it needed to go. what was the force driving it there? gravity? i think not!

as your perception of light is electrons bombarding your head ------->| electrons bombarding your head is energy flowing towards it.

basically what you see is allways energy in one state of matter or another. that matter could be in the state of light (plasma), gas or solids. it is all just energy anyway, the same thing! you can for example melt a coffee table into light, a car, the worlds biggest diamond, anything!

.. if you heat it enough, if you apply enough energy anything will turn into the same state of being. this means that we are all just electric conductors, and since we are all made of the same materials, including rocks, gas, light and the perception of thought(which is light/energy), we can send any signal through this system to anywhere within it. as explained in the example above. the end of the galaxy is not far away, it is right here within the same electric current. you are there and here at the same time, as you are the incarnation of that same energy in a solid state of being.

hence the hindu expression one love!

what i just described is pretty much the blueprint of hinduism, of which i am not a part of.

you should maybe look into it, but i am thomas, the doubter! i dont find my place within confined established terms as hinduism. what is the need to label knowledge is my view as all knowledge is one and we all know it! maybe they didnt name it, but someone that didnt understand it did, that is probably so! there is information there in any respect, it doesnt mean that you have to dress or act in a certain way. just desire it!

 

[Rifman]

i dont know if im loosing my mind here but im suddenly seeing anamolys everywhere. i came across these music videos by accident just a minute ago. we are ofc playing the game of connect the dots here. listening real close to the lyrics and looking for symbolism is the key. have a go yourselves!

Phil Oakley - Together In Electric Dreams


Starship-Nothing´s Gonna Stop Us Now
(notice the checkered floor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is fucked up!)

A-ha - Train Of Thought

Aha - The Living Daylights (this one is obvious, watch anything by a-ha from the 80's before they started writing their own stuff and you will see a connection very fast)

Freddie Mercury - The Great Pretender (pyramide/stairway to heaven, holy shit!)

im linking them as i find them at the moment, just watching one then linking it so the next one i am going to link i havent seen yet. but if you do the same you can keep going for hours and hours it seems. ill keep on a while longer for amusement sake!

i just cut a branch of my mr nice super silver haze yesterday to test it, and some of it seems smokeable now so ill do that, and look for some more of these music videos after.

i linked two in a previous post, watch them again!

for those that don't get what the hell im talking about, start at the top of the thread and watch all the videos linked in the follow up posts. uh.. you might want to watch this video about the [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDN6ZcZ0y9I]maya calendar, explained by Ian lungold[/url] also. at least the 3 first segments!

btw if you are seeing the connections here, and have something to add, a music video or some book or a slap across the face telling me to snap out of it please do!

brb

 

[Rifman]

the super silver haze was allrite, actually knocked me out for a while hehehe

back to the topic! i was finding analogys to theoretical space plasma technology, to the ufo movement, to age old depictions in stone and profecys, to the illuminati and to the universe in 1980's hit music. and it is EVERYWHERE, in a time where neither of these things were discovered or existed to the mainstream public.

furthermore all of the songs were massive smash hits, as if the message either hit the public on a subconscious level or as if someone was trying to tell us something. knowing how the music industry works today, we rarely get the best music but rather what they want us to hear. the latter seems more probable.

we are still playing the game of connect the dots, looking for symbolism such as checkered boards, pyramids, stairways to heaven, lightcreatures, the all seeing eye etc. and we are listening for lyrics depicting the transformation of humans to light creatures or human enlightenment, depicting a never ending cycle of life, opening your eyes, one-ness with god, space travel, secrets revealed to mankind and such.

these symbolisms and stories has extensive meanings and the history related to them goes back a long way before plasma technology. if you dont know anything about the history related to this symbolism im talking about then you need to start with the zeitgeistmovie or something. the info is everywhere you cant avoid seeing it. search for illuminati and its everywhere!

here is the real reason 2 pac got killed by the way!

2pac-killuminati
(proof enough that the illuminati exist?)

MegaDeth - New World Order (1994)
(this one is nasty, very nasty, makes me not want to look for more)

Megadeth - United Abominations
(megadeth calls for us to fight back, new song i think)

Megadeth - Washington is Next!
(megadeth is aware!)

Megadeth-Crown of Worms
(title referring to a stargate!)

ill re-link 2 of the videos i linked in a previous post because they are obvious and important!

Limahl-The Neverending Story

Limahl-Inside turning to outside
(notice the checkered floor, and the referances to the divine, turning your inside to outside and flying about]


there are countless other music videos with clues in this direction, in fact there are so many of them that there is no way this is all a coinsidence. then there are the referances in modern movies which are all the more disturbing. here is a short video showing some very important hidden symbolism you all should know about. have you noticed how all the movies lately are movies about massive human disasters?

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfUKygSFVZg&feature=related]masonic symbolism[/url]
(this just show a very little bit of it, if you look at the videos above and understand the connection, then you see the shere size this has grown to)