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Fast finishing (per say) Sativa??

DocLeaf

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Btw,, Apollo 13 is far from a sativa also,, grows like one of the 56day JH clones fake-ass cats shift about as Jack herer in Amsterdam.!!!



Nice male plant,, but still niether real Jack Herer,,, or a real sativa IMO. :wink:

Hope this helps :canabis:
 
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ooga booga

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Perhaps we don't have the same definition of "Holy Grail of Cannabis". To me it doesn't mean the dankest, most potent, best smoke strain out there. Instead, it means "best combination of all" meaning short maturity time, good yield, potency, taste, smell, etc, rolled into one. I would hardly consider something that typically finishes in ~70 days a contender for the "Holy Grail" title.
 

DocLeaf

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I n I think 'Grail Lore' is for the people that follow,, like sheep.

Skunk #1 is the "best combination of all",, so far (,although perhaps the word "best" is highly charged).

All the best
 

blackone

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grapepunched said:
Bubblegum is veryyyy fast finisher for me and
has a wonderful buzz to it.... My favorite pot for sure,
right there next to any chemdawg or purple,,,

very underrated and many phenos have some sativa qualities...

also, as far as a REAL sativa goes,,, have you tried Mandala?
or any of the SSH? I have a wonderful SSH that's DONE in 9 -10 weeks!

-gp

What bubblegum are you growing? The only one I've tried is the one now known as Bifrost from Sagaseeds. These are the same genes Wally used to cross his C99 to.
I only germed a few seeds and got 2 females. 1 was cut on day 74, and the other at day 63. Both were really really stinky - after a month of curing the aroma for both phenos got milder - more coffee-like. Both were also very sativa-like in appearance.
High was very energetic and clear.
This is the 74 day pheno:


Satori from Mandala is also pretty sativa in effect. From seed the phenos I had needed 70 days, but from clone they're ready in 65-67 days with 15-25% amber. Remember to check trichomes on this one - they're turning amber while the pistils are still fresh and white.
 
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charlie garcia

Nepal from Reeferman has some variability indeed. Effect is more on the pleasant but uplifting sativa but some phenos can go even to 12-14 weeks... I've worked 3 generations looking for nice individuals and to know well about them... Jamaican used for Nepal Jam is being grown here since 1985. Has more fluffy buds and 100% sativa calixes. Right now, this older lady can grow huge in our climate and finishes around middle November.

Depends on selections to get their best when hybridated ;) but ive used Jamaican plenty of times with very nice results. Is good to know your lines, you can breed with different individuals for different purposes ;)

Best of Nepal Jam at first to me was that offspring was more potent and better than parentals alone (Nepal and Jamaica) although not first time this happened breeding with this Jamaica. Sure you have to look and select well due irregular results sometimes but potential is inside and you just have to select properly...and pick them up :)

Best
 
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Hazeseeker

I've never tried C99 before but it would have to be something really special to be even better than proven quality strains like SSH, NL#5xHaze + Jack Herer, i'd have to see it before i believed the hype :chin:

peace
 
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Wunderkind

DocLeaf said:
I n I think 'Grail Lore' is for the people that follow,, like sheep.
:laughing:

because a fast finishing, high yielding, low odor, and highly potent hash plant is for sheep.

c99 is the holy grail for a lot of growers, growers like myself; i.e. apartment growers.
 

Gert Lush

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Wunderkind said:
because a fast finishing, high yielding, low odor, and highly potent hash plant is for sheep.
Also don't forget - low ceiling, very quick tolerance build-up, somewhat one-dimensional high (on average phenos... there are great exceptions, I'll grant you - but you have to search), and a degree of emotional perturbance (paranoia leftovers) if smoked exclusively.

It may be good for "apartment growers" (whatever they may be), but that's a far cry from "Holy Grail", which means the ultimate experience of the soul! :D

And if those are your only criteria, why just Cindy? Why not Skunk#1, a good Shiva (much better option for apartment growers, IMHO), Widow, NL, Apollo (much better option than Cindy IMHO especially if it's your only strain) or any of a score of others?

Not to mention the real little stars of manageable Sativa growth, LaNina, NepJam and the rst of it.

===

And remember I am a Cindy fan, but I try not to let it cloud my judgement... LOL
 
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Gert Lush said:
It may be good for "apartment growers" (whatever they may be), but that's a far cry from "Holy Grail", which means the ultimate experience of the soul! :D
"Whatever they may be" ......what?

Are you not aware of what an apartment is?
 
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Head seeds Casey Jones: strong, under 70 days, heady happy sativa high, dank taste and flavor....
 

barletta

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MrN SSH if you want a crusher @ 8-11wks (like the packs say)
OR
MrN EQ if you want something delicious quicker.

I have a pack of LaNina that is calling me after reading Gert's reviews.
 
Thule said:
Southern africans fit the bill. Durban poison as mentioned, bushman's, bambata..

Has anyone grown/comments to make about the growing/smoke of the bushman's? it sounds interesting as it is one of the few available south african pure landraces out there (assuming it is a pure landrace).

Also has anyone grown the strain "Actual Sativa,"? sounds awesome to have an early flowering variety composed of 2 pure sativas, one with SA genetics, crossed with a tibetan
 
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DonChron

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c99 is fire...fast finishing too..sounds to me like you're talking commercial strains though..go with AK47...Venomhead is also prime,its a c99 hybrid of course..check into it
 
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Space Ghost

flo would be my top pick, then durban poison...

A have to agree that mexicans are very nice (at least the pures and near pures) but the good ones i've worked with take at least 12 weeks and are difficult to obtain. Most of the product you find bricked up has been hit pretty heavily with an indica (be it a ghani or what have you) genetically speaking...
 

Uncle Remus

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C99 is THE BOMB

I found a real skunky, sticky, Skittles smelling momma...Kicks your ass BIG TIME

Oh yea...Did I mention that I take her at 45 days?

Right at 45 days, give or take a few:





 

FreezerBoy

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Wunderkind said:
"Whatever they may be" ......what?

Are you not aware of what an apartment is?
It's not about the apt. but the grower. As your "typical" apt grower (townhouse actually) I say no Indicas or Skunks polluting my grow, thank you. I kept my Thunk (7-8 feet in the wild) under 22 inches. IC attendance has so increased my yield that I don't even blink at the possibility of a 180 day grow. Point being that "average" apt growers are all different.

Anyway, I'm doing a Thai, Mex, Columbian Sativa called Destroyer. Flowers in 56-84 days, though CannaBioGen suggests a month of Veg time first. No smoke report yet. I just started.
 

Kabong

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too bad theres no way to prove how high one is getting... im no c99 expert... been here and done this before, about c99 too... ive grown and smoked various stages of c99, smoked some F2, same source as Docleafs c99, grew JLPS c99 F3s, and im growin wallys now F5xF5=F6. The F6 pine shit seems just the same as the F3 pine pheno i got, and i cant for the life of me figure out why this strain is still moderately good, thats why i have 2 cuts of the F6 now

thats why i have 2 F6 cuts.

not all my phenos had big airey buds of course... the grapefriot pheno was very squat, and indica lookin in shape, fairly thin leaves
 

Thule

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ganjabrother said:
Has anyone grown/comments to make about the growing/smoke of the bushman's? it sounds interesting as it is one of the few available south african pure landraces out there (assuming it is a pure landrace).

Also has anyone grown the strain "Actual Sativa,"? sounds awesome to have an early flowering variety composed of 2 pure sativas, one with SA genetics, crossed with a tibetan

My bushman's was really fast, and chunky almost like an indica with an active sativa high. I'd say it's pure, no skunk here



Actual sativa didn't perform very well indoors, very fluffy but has a good kick

 
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FreezerBoy said:
It's not about the apt. but the grower. As your "typical" apt grower (townhouse actually) I say no Indicas or Skunks polluting my grow, thank you. I kept my Thunk (7-8 feet in the wild) under 22 inches. IC attendance has so increased my yield that I don't even blink at the possibility of a 180 day grow. Point being that "average" apt growers are all different.
I put more stock into smell than flower time. When growing c99 I can rest a bit easier knowing that they aren't going to stink up my building. Something I can't say about other plants I've grown, and I have grown many different varieties.

In a town house it's a bit easier to make friends with your immediate neighbors, as you only have 1 or 2 neighboring units. I have 15 neighboring units and strong odors do travel.

That being said, you are not an apartment grower.
 
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