J. Greenstein
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I am planning my first grow. I have a room 5' x 13' that I can use, I will do soil/buckets. I'm leaning to 3 x 1000 hps. What would you recommend? Would 30 x 5 gallon buckets be good? Thanks in advance.
Lighting for 5' x 13' room?
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Young Giver
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Well first of all I need 2 know how tall your room is HxWxL=square feet ?
J. Greenstein
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Young Giver said:
Sorry bout that...my room is 7' tall.
H x W x L = cubic feet?
Quazi
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I would suggest considering multiple 600W HPS.
3 reasons:
1) 600W HPS puts out more lumens per watt than the 1000W.
2) 3 600W lamps can get better coverage on your plants with overlap than 2 1000W lamps can.
3) You can get your 600W lamps closer to the plants than the 1000W ones.
These suggestions are from Jorge Cervantes. He knows a thing or two about grow rooms.
-Q
3 reasons:
1) 600W HPS puts out more lumens per watt than the 1000W.
2) 3 600W lamps can get better coverage on your plants with overlap than 2 1000W lamps can.
3) You can get your 600W lamps closer to the plants than the 1000W ones.
These suggestions are from Jorge Cervantes. He knows a thing or two about grow rooms.
-Q
J. Greenstein
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Quazi said:I would suggest considering multiple 600W HPS.
2) 3 600W lamps can get better coverage on your plants with overlap than 2 1000W lamps can.
-Q
I was planning 3 x 1000.
legalizekindtok
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the 3x600 is a good suggestion, but they do not penetrate as deep as the 3x1000 would so, go with what you know.... however cooling the 1k's is harder than cooling the 600's...
J. Greenstein
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Since I am doing buckets (large, taller plants)...the deeper penetration of 1000's would be preferalble, no?
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I'd go 4 x 600's. This will give you a 2' walkway/workspace and a perfect 3 x 13' coverage for the plants against a wall. I think better utilization of the space than 1000's but that's just me.
It's 6 of 1 or half dozen of another. Since 1000's are stronger you do not need to get them as close as a 600. I like 600's for stationary growing.
Once the canopy fills in you really don't need the punch of a 1000 but I'm heavy handed with the pruning/training and even things out a bit like below. That was with 6' ceilings and a stretchy strain and did the best I could. I think with the 7' ceilings the 600's will work great.
George W Kush
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Not really.legalizekindtok said:
Personally I'd go 5 x 600 or 3 x 1k. If set up correctly you'll probably end up yielding a grip more with the 600s than the 1k's on the same 3000w used.
3 1k's on linear movers would be pretty sick, too. Compared to having to buy two extra reflectors and ballasts, I'd think about that.
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Sloppy Seconds
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However you deside to go with this just remember to hang your lights crossways and not longways, this might determine how many lights you CAN hang.
you said 5 X 13 room, you could fit four 600 watters with no problem, even 3 1000 watters would work as long as you hoods spread the light out far enough, remember crossway for lights with hoods. be cool
you said 5 X 13 room, you could fit four 600 watters with no problem, even 3 1000 watters would work as long as you hoods spread the light out far enough, remember crossway for lights with hoods. be cool
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J. Greenstein
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Sloppy Seconds said:
Hey Sloppy I'm not sure why the suggestion to hang crossways, since I keep reading that a 1k has good coverage of a 4 x 4 area? In my mind I have envisioned a slightly scaled down version of Blaze's 4k/64 plant room he currently has. I want to do 3 x 1k air cooled all mounted the long way the way Blaze has set up...also I am able to widen my room from 5' (currently just a framed wall, no board)...so I'm thinking to widen the room by a foot, this leaves my with a 2' x 13' area to walk, and I will have a plant area of 12' x 4' so each 1k is doing a 4 x 4' area of 16 plants. I'd rather go with 3 x 1k vs 5 x 600's for finacial reasons, since I have to pretty much start from scratch here.
dyren
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Sounds like a good plan. I like the idea of the 3 1k's along the long wall. This gives you good room to access the plants under each 1k (although the buckets along the wall may be harder to reach, you'll only have to reach across 4' though). Good luck, wish I had the same space to work with.
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J. Greenstein said:
If you can move that wall 2', instead of 1', you would be a lot better off. Once your plants start getting big, it will be almost impossible to reach the back plants if they are only accessible from one side. You would then have a 4'x12' grow inside a 7'x13' room which would give 18" to move along each side and 1' at one end to squeeze through.
You might want to take a look at ballast kits instead of assembled ballasts, the kits are way cheaper and anyone with an IQ at least in the high double digits can assemble the things. It's a good way to save on start-up costs, if you're into diy kinda stuff.
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I'd be more inclined to do something like that if using 1000's in that space. It's gonna be a pain to access plants 4' in. An 18" workspace/walkway is about the least I'd do. I do know of someone who trains the plants into all of the available the aisle space about 2 weeks into flower starting from the far end and lays a trellis net down as he backs out.PharmaCan said:
Three one thousad watters hung in a row..
thats how i'd do it... and it would work FANTASTIC... don't screw with the 6's you will appreciate the thousands unless of course you have done this for many years are familiar with the strains you are growing and looking for MAXIMUS yeild.. and grow very short plants.. then the 6's might give a bit of an advantage...
But if it were me, id go 3 thousands
just look at my gallery!!!!!!
thats how i'd do it... and it would work FANTASTIC... don't screw with the 6's you will appreciate the thousands unless of course you have done this for many years are familiar with the strains you are growing and looking for MAXIMUS yeild.. and grow very short plants.. then the 6's might give a bit of an advantage...
But if it were me, id go 3 thousands
just look at my gallery!!!!!!
J. Greenstein
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PharmaCan said:
Ok the plan is starting to come together...I can move that wall as much as I like, but assume it's best not to widen the room too much so I don't lose light reflecting off wall? What if I make the room 13 x 8? That gives me a 24" walkway down either side of the 12 x 4 grow area down the middle...so this emulates Blaze's room even more so (obviously a good thing!).
J. Greenstein said:
A 24" walkway would be even better. If you have good reflectors, the vast majority of your light is directed downward and the amount that bounces off the walls is minimal. Anyway, the closer the plants are to the wall, the more the plants will be blocking the light from getting to the wall and bouncing off of it.
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